Re: Re: Re: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-05 Thread Romain Kroes
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: [PEN-L:23465] Re: Re: Suppression of Marx ___ Dear Melvin, before becoming a researcher, I was a worker and an Union leader, like you

Re: Re: Re: Re: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-05 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/5/2002 6:14:29 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Melvin, before becoming a researcher, I was a worker and an Union leader, like you. And I believed in "historical materialism", too. I believed in it, because having not yet visited history by myself, I

Re: RE: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Justin Schwartz
There is a difference between making an unconvincing argument of logical inconsistency and claiming a logical inconsistency without any attempt to demonstrate it (By the way, I never understood the Sraffian argument against the LTV as in general based on logical inconsistency--I thought it was

Re: RE: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Michael Perelman
Was Sraffa a Sraffian/neo-Ricardian; did he ever go beyond critiquing neo-classical garbage? On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 10:07:16AM -0600, Forstater, Mathew wrote: There is a difference between making an unconvincing argument of logical inconsistency and claiming a logical inconsistency without

Re: Re: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 3/4/2002 7:17:33 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MARX AND HIS POSTERITY Admittedly the founder of what has been the working-class movement shares some responsibility in the confusion of the thought that is meant to be Marxist or Marxism-related. But he did

RE: Re: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Devine, James
Michael Perelman I don't agree with Romer [Roemer], but as Jim D.? observed, he probably caused more people to take a look at Marx. If some of these people read Marx with intelligence, so much the better. it's important to be careful with spelling here, since there are at least two

RE: Re: RE: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Devine, James
PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 8:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:23464] Re: RE: Suppression of Marx Was Sraffa a Sraffian/neo-Ricardian; did he ever go

Re: Re: RE: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Justin Schwartz
Was Sraffa a Sraffian/neo-Ricardian; did he ever go beyond critiquing neo-classical garbage? No we wasn't one, and no he didn't Personally, I have some reason to think he was a Stalinist When I was at Cambs I was friends with a grad student of his who said that in his rooms he had Stalin's

Re: RE: Re: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Justin Schwartz
Anyway, it was Justin who said that Roemer probably caused more people to take a look at Marx or something like that I don't know if that encouraged people to read Marx with intelligence Wasn't me, but I think it's true As far as his effect on economists, I can't say He made _me_ read Marx a

RE: Re: RE: Suppression of Marx

2002-03-04 Thread Forstater, Mathew
10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:23464] Re: RE: Suppression of Marx Was Sraffa a Sraffian/neo-Ricardian; did he ever go beyond critiquing neo-classical garbage?

RE: Re: Suppression of Marx

2002-02-24 Thread Drewk
Dear Melvin P., Could you go slower, please, and fill in the gaps for me? I don't understand your references. Could you give examples? I did get the point about Southern cotton production being (capitalist) commodity production, even though Black slaves, not free workers, produced the cotton,