Sabri Oncu wrote:
>
> He simply cries very loudly whenever he needs attention. As a
> Turkish saying goes, "The baby who doesn't cry, doesn't get the
> milk."
>
i am perfectly happy with summarizing sokal's behaviour as above.
> I love my son more for that ability of his.
unfortunately i nu
Ravi writes:
> i understand neither, and as a lay person
> all i see is a turf war, with the confusions
> of the postmodernists matched by the childishness
> of sokal,
A turf war is not what I see Ravi. All I see is a revolt of a
smart guy against stupidity.
By the way, being a "childish" scien
Robinson, along with Meek, did to Marx what Samuelson did to Keynes --
show how his work could be interpreted in terms of respectable economics
by removing much that is valuable. I doubt that either felt that they
were violating the work that they were interpreting.
I spent an afternoon with Rob
Carl Remick wrote:
>> Attacking people you haven't read and/or barely understand isn't my
>> idea of what intellectuals are supposed to do ...
>
> Unless, that is, what is not understood is not understandable.
>
by which token sokal is as much a fool as those he ridicules, for
i am sure i will
>Attacking people you haven't read and/or barely understand isn't my
>idea of what intellectuals are supposed to do ...
>
>Doug
Unless, that is, what is not understood is not understandable. The
following is from volume three of Robert Skidelsky's bio of John Maynard
Keynes: "Keynes's 'blind
> Attacking people you haven't read and/or
> barely understand isn't my idea of what
> intellectuals are supposed to do, but your
> support for him does explain some of your
> previously inexplicable sympathies.
>
> Doug
I read his book with Bircmont and was not under the impression
that he did
Sabri Oncu wrote:
> > Of course, he didn't really say much about
>> the literature he parodied, in part because
>> he's never really read it.
>>
>> Doug
>
>Good for him.
Attacking people you haven't read and/or barely understand isn't my
idea of what intellectuals are supposed to do, but yo
> Of course, he didn't really say much about
> the literature he parodied, in part because
> he's never really read it.
>
> Doug
Good for him.
I keep reading many postmodernists almost daily. They are here:
http:\www.gazetem.net
My favorite two are these:
http://www.gazetem.net/ahmetaltan.asp
Doug Henwood wrote:
> Devine, James wrote:
>
>> Similarly, I heard on pen-l that Alan Sokal was a "social democrat."
>> Who cares? Does his status as a social democrat imply that he's worse
>> than some creep who runs a small sect of five people which claims to
>> have the "correct line (or pr
Speaking of the glorious days of Clinton, I was just reminded yesterday
that Ira Magaziner was behind the ICANN mess as well as Hilary's health
care fiasco.
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Doug, I wasn't defending Sokal. Instead, I was arguing against indiscriminate use of political labels, as if we should assume that someone is wrong on all counts just because they're a "social democrat."
It'
Lou, Malthus, like Cooper, was also an enemy of the working class, but
Marx would take from him what he found useful and credit him for it.
I do not agree with all that Chomsky says. I thought that I was clear in
that respect, but he has done more than anyone else on the left to get a
progressi
Devine, James wrote:
>Similarly, I heard on pen-l that Alan Sokal was a "social democrat."
>Who cares? Does his status as a social democrat imply that he's
>worse than some creep who runs a small sect of five people which
>claims to have the "correct line (or program)"? should we shun Sokal
>
>Yup. I talked with someone who recently
>interviewed for a job at DLC, and it was made
>clear that they *hate* Kuttner, and would love
>to see TAP vaporize. Which, if the rumors are
>correct, may be about to happen.
>
>Doug
Kuttner's opposition to Clinton--the quintessential DLC'er--could
ce
On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 15:10:53 -0700, Michael Perelman wrote:
>Chomsky is a perfect example for me. I don't
>agree with all of his politics or all of his
>analysis. But the vast majority of what he says
>has a wonderful influence. I wish that I could
>do as much good in the world.
I guess that Mi
I am reading my mail out of order, so I should have responded to Lou's
note first. I think that what he says here is correct, except we should
be cautious about much that we read and hear.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:23:14PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote:
> Clearly there is useful information on tom
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Max Sawicky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Max Sawicky wrote:
>As some here know, Kuttner is on the board of the organization
>that employs me. So you can make of that whatever you like.
>All I want to say is that Kuttner, whatever his faults
>(which you won't hear from me, duh), is not DLC. He and
>a bunch of cronies founded The Americ
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Like Max, I really don't care how "left" someone is. It's not like there's a way of measuring such things along some hard-and-fast and objective spectrum. Besides, what's "left" changes over time. Ba
ss liberal
than Kuttner.
mbs
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also, is it true that Kuttner is pretending to
Title: RE: [PEN-L:26769] RE: tompaine.com
also, is it true that Kuttner is pretending to be leftist by being associated with tompaine.com? or is he a tompaine.com-type leftist who is pretending to be more "moderate" in THE AMERICAN PROSPECT? or is he trying to build a coalitio
LP said:
> is making a calculated effort to appear leftish. Charles Peters shares
> Kuttner's Democratic Leadership Council politics.
As some here know, Kuttner is on the board of the organization
that employs me. So you can make of that whatever you like.
All I want to say is that Kuttner, wh
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