RE: RE: RE: Re: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-07 Thread Forstater, Mathew
I like the classical/Marxian class-based approach supplemented with the Veblen-Duesenberry relative income hypothesis far more than the life cycle/permament income approach.

RE: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-07 Thread Devine, James
Mat writes: I like the classical/Marxian class-based approach supplemented with the Veblen-Duesenberry relative income hypothesis far more than the life cycle/permament income approach. I think that all of these approaches have something to add. For example, the permanent income hypothesis'

RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-07 Thread Forstater, Mathew
] Subject: [PEN-L:23636] RE: RE: RE: Re: workers' saving Marxian political economy I like the classical/Marxian class-based approach supplemented with the Veblen-Duesenberry relative income hypothesis far more than the life cycle/permament income approach.

Re: RE: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-07 Thread Justin Schwartz
I wrote: I think that rich people are taught how to behave: for example, they go to Phillips Exeter or some other prep school to learn never to dip into capital and to live off income instead. Justin writes:My acquaintances and friends at Tigertown [Princeton] in the mid 1970s who had gone to

Re: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-06 Thread gskillman
Jim writes, A key introductory point: I am _not_ defending the specifics of Marx's analysis per se (e.g., what he says in volume I, ch. 25, of CAPITAL). Instead, I am defending his general method and theoretical framework, This is indeed a key point. The comment of mine that prompted this

RE: Re: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-06 Thread Forstater, Mathew
The idea that the classical/Marxian assumption that workers don't save (and capitalists live on air) implies that working people are 'impatient' or whatever suffers from quite a few problems: 1) the assumption is a macro assumption--it says that in the aggregate workers don't save. This is

RE: Re: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-06 Thread Devine, James
I wrote:A key introductory point: I am _not_ defending the specifics of Marx's analysis per se (e.g., what he says in volume I, ch. 25, of CAPITAL). Instead, I am defending his general method and theoretical framework... Gil now writes:This is indeed a key point. The comment of mine that

RE: RE: Re: workers' saving Marxian political economy

2002-03-06 Thread Devine, James
Mat writes: What we are saying when we make that assumption is that capitalist consumption does not fluctuate when profits go up or down by relatively small amounts. Capitalists have various means of maintaining consumption levels when profits fall. yeah, I think that the forward-looking