Sabri Oncu wrote:
Let me ask you a direct question: Is it your point that
capitalism is not as bad a system as some of us here think it is?
It's awful, but I guess it beats slavery or feudalism But it's also
a deeply contradictory system, producing wealth and possibility
alongside poverty and
you write:
...Isn´t infant-industry promotion, buttressed by trade restrictions the
only way any country has ever industrialised ,including all of Southeast
Asia and India, or am I way off here?
I don't think S. Korea, Taiwan, or Japan made it as far as they did based on
import substitution,
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From: Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A friend of mine who spent a few
years as a reporter in Vietnam interviewed Nike workers who
told her
that they prefer their sweatshop jobs to what they would have
been
doing otherwise - things like chasing rats in rice
Doug,
I don't think anyone here would argue that when faced with a
choice between less misery and more misery, people would chose
less misery. By the way, I am using the word misery in its daily
form without any theoretical connotation and mention this so that
I don't find myself in a long
From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't forget that this is not just a temporal/historical but also
a spatial/geographical system. Even at times of capitalist booms,
although the boom lifts some boats in certain locations, other
boats sink in certain other locations. I would say whether you
Sabri Oncu wrote:
Don't forget that this is not just a temporal/historical but also
a spatial/geographical system Even at times of capitalist booms,
although the boom lifts some boats in certain locations, other
boats sink in certain other locations I would say whether you
appreciate or hate the
No, high wages came about as industries absorbed labor So labor
repression worked initially but it didn't later If my memory serves me
right Korean wages were growing at very high rates throughout the 70s and
80s Further, Jim is right that it wasn't classic Lat Am style ISI, but
Korea did have
Wasn't Wade's point that much of the increase in inequality was within
countries rather than between them?
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:28:13PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
Ian Murray wrote:
However, this result comes from fast growth
in China and India. If they are excluded this measure of
Michael Perelman wrote:
Wasn't Wade's point that much of the increase in inequality was within
countries rather than between them?
Well yeah, but there's a tendency in left discourse to bracket out
China, except to talk about sweatshops and political repression The
US recession has gotten far
Devine, James wrote:
In all of these income numbers, are non-market sources of subsistence
measured? Is it possible that measured and reported gains in market income
are cancelled out if one subtracts the effects of the abolition of the
availability of non-capitalist means of subsistence (the
See UNU/WIDER paper by Cornia and Court (2001) Inequality, Growth and
Poverty in the Era of Liberalization and Globalization) on these issues
Cheers, Anthony
Anthony P D'Costa
Associate Professor
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Devine, James wrote:
In all of these income numbers, are non-market sources of
subsistence
measured? Is it possible
the same questions apply. I know growth is
so much less fun than crisis, but maybe a few words...
Doug
Hi Doug,
Let me ask you a direct question: Is it your point that
capitalism is not as bad a system as some of us here think it is?
Sabri
On Monday, March 4, 2002 at 18:57:45 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes:
Devine, James wrote:
In all of these income numbers, are non-market sources of subsistence
measured? Is it possible that measured and reported gains in market income
are cancelled out if one subtracts the effects of the abolition
On Monday, March 4, 2002 at 18:56:42 (-0500) Doug Henwood writes:
Michael Perelman wrote:
Wasn't Wade's point that much of the increase in inequality was within
countries rather than between them?
Well yeah, but there's a tendency in left discourse to bracket out
China, except to talk about
Charles J. writes: the US cheap dollar/strong yen policy has pushed China
into the fore as huge exporter to both the US and Japan
huh? the US$ has been soaring since the mid-1990s. How could it be cheap?
Are you saying that the Yen is even stronger?
JDevine
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