Re: Re: Re: Michael Mann

2001-05-17 Thread Jim Devine
Ricardo wrote: I did not say we can't compare rice per hectare and wheat per hectare. We naturally can since these are both measures of land productivity. I wrote: naturally? I'm sorry, but you can't do it. Comparing rice per hectare to wheat per hectare isn't just like comparing apples

Re: Re: Michael Mann

2001-05-17 Thread Jim Devine
At 10:26 AM 05/17/2001 -0300, you wrote: Ricardo wrote: I did not say we can't compare rice per hectare and wheat per hectare. We naturally can since these are both measures of land productivity. Jim naturally? I'm sorry, but you can't do it. Comparing rice per hectare to wheat per

Re: Re: Michael Mann

2001-05-17 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:44 PM 5/17/01 -0300, you wrote: I don't get this. You seemed to conclude something about the relative efficiency of agricultural production in China vs. agriculture in Europe. Are you now saying that it can't be done? Is this your either-or question? yes: either one can compare

Re: Re Michael Mann

2001-05-16 Thread Rob Schaap
Ricardo Duchesne wrote: I can see Jim Blaut up on a cloud right now, with a harp in one hand and a bottle of beer in the other, smiling down at Ricardo's post. Yes, he has every right to if we continue making blanket statements about superior European productivity without drawing

Re: Re: Michael Mann

2001-05-16 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 7:51 PM Subject: [PEN-L:11647] Re: Michael Mann Ricardo wrote: I did not say we can't compare rice per hectare and wheat per hectare. We naturally can since these are both

Re: Re: Re: Michael Mann

2001-05-16 Thread Carrol Cox
If it's the origins of capitalism we are interested in, productivity is not necessarily relevant. What we need is an explanation for Shakespeare's drunken porter at hell's gate referring to a farmer who had hanged himself in the expectation of plenty. That line is unintelligible except in a