Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rich countries reduce pollution, in part, by exporting it to poor countries. If Third World countries get to grow, they are likely to be in a position to limit or negotiate this in better terms.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Julio Huato wrote: IMO, the main obstacle to the development of capitalism in the Third World is not imperialism. What is? Doug To state it in general may not be particularly helpful. But here it goes. In my opinion, the main obstacle to the development of

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread michael pugliese
This sounds like the articulation of modes of production approach reviewed back in the late 70's in NLR by Aidan-Foster-Carter. Another part of what Julio says sounds like to me like the Peruvian economist touted by Mario Vargas Llosa, and the late Richard Milhous Nixon, whose name I'm

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread David Shemano
The New York Times Magazine had a lengthy article about Hernando de Soto on July 1: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/01/magazine/01DESOTO.html?pagewanted=all What is especially interesting is that he is apparently catching on in various places: Aristide in Haiti and Mubarak in Egypt, among

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
michael pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This sounds like the articulation of modes of production approach reviewed back in the late 70's in NLR by Aidan-Foster-Carter. Another part of what Julio says sounds like to me like the Peruvian economist touted by Mario Vargas Llosa, and the late Richard

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I knew I should have phrased that differently! No. It's fair, Michael. And thank you for all the URLs. I have heard of de Soto before. Louis Proyect already honored me by associating me with him. But I haven't read him directly. Now I should.

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-09 Thread Jim Devine
At 01:19 PM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote: But I guess a glass at 50% capacity is always half empty. pessimist: the glass is half empty. optimist: the glass is half full. realist: it's half a glass of water. surrealist: it's a cow. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-09 Thread Ian Murray
At 01:19 PM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote: But I guess a glass at 50% capacity is always half empty. pessimist: the glass is half empty. optimist: the glass is half full. realist: it's half a glass of water. surrealist: it's a cow. Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-09 Thread Ann Li
: Yet another take on Hubbert's peak At 01:19 PM 7/9/01 -0400, you wrote: But I guess a glass at 50% capacity is always half empty. pessimist: the glass is half empty. optimist: the glass is half full. realist: it's half a glass of water. surrealist: it's a cow. Jim Devine

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-09 Thread Ken Hanly
Message - From: Mark Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 3:20 AM Subject: [PEN-L:14806] RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Yet another take on Hubbert's peak Ken Hanly: Of course I forgot. References you supply demolish the idea that tar sands ,or anything else I