RE: Re: Re: Sweatshops and Krugman

2001-04-25 Thread Max Sawicky
well said. max I’ve let the sweatshop discussion go by for lack of time, but, since this issue has been something of a preoccupation of mine for a long time, I feel I should say something. . . .

Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops and Krugman

2001-04-25 Thread Michael Pugliese
[EMAIL PROTECTED] As an example, I recently heard an interview on US National Public Radio of a woman (I don't think I ever heard her name) who wrote a book about Birmingham (Alabama) and the church bombing that's currently the subject of a trial there. (Interestingly, her father -- a fine

Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops

2001-04-23 Thread Jim Devine
... is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist fundamentalist. My guess that as long as poor people can go to heaven and sit at the right hand of Jesus, stuff like polluted water, low wages, ramshackle housing, illiteracy, etc. don't count for that much. After all, if you are going to

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops

2001-04-23 Thread Michael Pugliese
:58 PM Subject: [PEN-L:10589] Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops ... is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist fundamentalist. My guess that as long as poor people can go to heaven and sit at the right hand of Jesus, stuff like polluted water, low wages, ramshackle housing, illiteracy, etc

Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops and Krugman

2001-04-23 Thread ravi narayan
Ian Murray wrote: Yes. Harkin's claim was that the bill would improve conditions in Bangladesh--would make the Bangladeshi government straighten up and fly right. He was wrong. If Harkin had tied his bill to increased development aid for Bangladesh, I would think better of him...

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops and Krugman

2001-04-23 Thread Ian Murray
Ian Murray wrote: Yes. Harkin's claim was that the bill would improve conditions in Bangladesh--would make the Bangladeshi government straighten up and fly right. He was wrong. If Harkin had tied his bill to increased development aid for Bangladesh, I would think better of

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops and Krugman

2001-04-23 Thread Ian Murray
Ian Since the point is that the policy as written was *stupid* and *counterproductive*, that's irrelevant. To get something destructive out of committee is an achievement only to those who view politics as an arena for personal self-expression. Brad DeLong == Is

Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops and Krugman

2001-04-23 Thread Brad DeLong
== Well, why didn't Harkin get Jesse Helms to write a kinder gentler aid/develoment package so that schools and health clinics would be built. Was THAT the anti-sweatshop movement's fault? Yes. Harkin's claim was that the bill would improve conditions in

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops

2001-04-23 Thread John Henry
At 01:58 PM 4/23/2001 -0700, you wrote: ... is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist fundamentalist. My guess that as long as poor people can go to heaven and sit at the right hand of Jesus, stuff like polluted water, low wages, ramshackle housing, illiteracy, etc. don't count for

Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops

2001-04-23 Thread John Henry
John Henry is also a fervent Christian as well as a capitalist fundamentalist. I am a Christian. But that has little to do with my views on capitalism and economics. I really don't even consider myself a capitalist. I am a liberal (classic liberal, libertarian or minarchist, if you prefer) I

Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops and Krugman

2001-04-23 Thread jdevine
Does this mean that the PK watch is returning after a long hiatus? no way. I have to work. -- Jim Devine. - This message was sent using Panda Mail. Check your regular email account away from home free! http://www.pandamail.net

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sweatshops

2001-04-23 Thread jdevine
I asked:aren't there some fundamentalists -- present company excluded, of course -- who want to speed up the end of life on earth, so we can join Jesus? John Henry says: Probably, there are all sorts of people who believe all sorts of things. I'm not familiar with any group in particular