You think they're associating themselves with the ACLU for the money?
C'mon, it's probably not that much. Like I said before, Barr's a
loon, but he's a seriou civil libertarian and probably is anxious
about threats to civil liberties. Armey's a bit more of a surprise.
But an alliance with
Dont you think the ACLU should be hiring people whose
work is a bit more consistant with most of their
values, (see exec. director Romero's an astonishing
quote below)? There are plenty of good civil
libertarians who are not right wing zealots who could
make a better case than those two without
No, it is not a bad thing. It is bad that it is necessary to find our
allies on the right, while the left remains silent. Sen. Byrd is a noble
exception -- he who was heretofore mostly a master of the porkbarrel.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 06:07:36PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
You think they're
Michael Perelman wrote:
No, it is not a bad thing. It is bad that it is necessary to find our
allies on the right, while the left remains silent.
What left? The left you I know isn't. The ACLU is full of liberals.
If you mean the Dems, well they're not really the left, are they?
Doug
Doug, you have a public voice, but few of us on the list really have a
public voice as individuals.
The wierd thing is that the snooping seems to be resonating very
negatively once it moved from aliens to touching real Americans.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 06:38:02PM -0500, Doug Henwood wrote:
Title: RE: [PEN-L:32499] Re: Re: re: how things change
Doug Henwood writes:
Not that much of a change - despite many other loony positions,
Barr's always been a hardliner on civil liberties (like Ron Paul).
Doyle writes:
You loosely apply an anti-disabled phrasing to the enemy
