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From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I understand that Russian health care may be free, as Chris says, but my Russian
friends tell me that to get decent treatment you have to bribe people.
Yes. It is free in principle but requires, usually,
Louis Proyect:
Actually, Herman said the following:
There is also the attempt to blame the medical crisis on alcoholism, which one
Russian doctor is quoted as saying, is in first place, and there are ingrained
habits so that mending this safety net will require surgery on millions of dark
I invited Chris here because he does have a lot of information on Russia. I do not
share his views about Putin, but I still learn from him.
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I don't know how much of it is due to the Putin administration, how much is due to
high oil prices, and how much is due to fluctuations in the solar
Chris Doss wrote:
I see the most amazing distortions of reality about the country in the
English-language press, and not just the mass media. For instance,
Edward Herman wrote a very well-intentioned article on Znet about the
Russian healthcare system that was, unfortunately, wrong. He could
I understand that Russian health care may be free, as Chris says, but my Russian
friends tell me that to get decent treatment you have to bribe people. One possible
difference between the Soviet and the present system is that today a typical doctor
might have difficulty surviving on her official
Response: This was the same kind of excuse given for Stalin by some intellectuals
during the 30s and 40s. The one thing missing in Medvedev's interview is a class
analysis. Once upon a time, Medvedev was associated with Eurocommunism and Bukharin.
His PR for Putin seems to reflect diminished
Roy Medvedev = brilliant historian who, for some reason, seems to support the most
popular Russian leader since the tsarist era, you know, the guy who has presided over
a more rapid growth of living standards than any General Secretary of the Soviet Union
ever.
Louis Proyect = a guy who thinks
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population.
Gorby adores Putin.
90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they
think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the
American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay marriage,
Chris Doss wrote:
Louis Proyect = a guy who thinks that Dagestanis like being invaded
by mujaheedin from Chechnya and similar absurdities, probably believes
that Ivan Shapovalov is a Bolshevik leader, and, despite knowing
absolutely jack about contemporary Russia, somehow thinks he has the
right
In a message dated 5/14/2004 7:52:28 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population. Gorby adores Putin.90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what theythink, just as I defer customarily to what the
Glad to see you remain the same alienating asshole as ever, Lou.
Mr Doss has done nothing but offer his own opinion and plenty of
interesting material. I see no problem or a need to cut him down. (All
your hackneyed adjectives about his posts are a reminder why you don't
have a book contract.)
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population.
Gorby adores Putin.
90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they
think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the
American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay
Chris Doss wrote:
You'd better make some attempt to understand _why_ they think what they
think
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The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e.
the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same
time its ruling intellectual force. The class which
In a message dated 5/14/2004 8:40:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This bureaucracy - we are talking about real people, receiving money and spending money or helping todrive reproduction and the realization of surplus value - profits. No amount of sloganeering on the part
Why fight staw men when the economic questions loom large.
Because that's easier and doesn't require thought. Further comment below.
Putin is not going to defeat the bureaucracy. George W. is not going to
defeat the bureaucracy and without question Mr. Stalin did not and could not defeat
If you want to ignore somebody, go ahead. Making your feelings public adds nothing.
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 06:03:41PM +0400, Chris Doss wrote:
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population.
Gorby adores Putin.
90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to
Wow. I have not seen a threat degenerate so fast before. Both Lou and Ken should
cool it.
I invited Chris here because he does have a lot of information on Russia. I do not
share his views about Putin, but I still learn from him.
People are welcome to disagree with him, but to announce you
Grin...
Michael... I don't mind the thread.
Someone has to point out what Louis does... Which is divide. Mr.Doss has
provided a fresh and direct perspective, so what? It was like your
invitation to that Chicago right wing lawyer chap...
We learn thorugh being in contact.
As for the asshole
Just keep the personal stuff off list. I agree with you about Chris.
On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:13:37AM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote:
Grin...
Michael... I don't mind the thread.
Someone has to point out what Louis does... Which is divide. Mr.Doss has
provided a fresh and direct
In a message dated 5/14/2004 9:23:36 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that the defining event of the past 4-5 years in Russia, in terms of domestic politics, has been the struggle between the bureaucracy and big business, the so-called "oligarchy." Not that the
Roy Medvedev:
You can't be anything but tough in Russia. We live in a
country where a civil society has not yet been formed. The leading
political and social force after the fall of the CPSU is the
bureaucracy. The bureaucratic hierarchy from bottom to top is the
framework of the state. You would
Roy Medvedev:
"You can't be anything but tough in Russia. We live in acountry where a civil society has not yet been formed. The leadingpolitical and social force after the fall of the CPSU is thebureaucracy. The bureaucratic hierarchy from bottom to top is theframework of the state.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would seem that no one can escape the economic logic of the law of
value.
http://www.columbia.edu/~lnp3/mydocs/state_and_revolution/cuba.htm
Che Guevara had some of the most interesting insights into the problems
of socialist construction since the days of Lenin. He is
In a message dated 5/13/2004 2:22:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Che Guevara had some of the most interesting insights into the problems of socialist construction since the days of Lenin. He is better known as a guerrilla fighter, but his essays on planning and other
In a message dated 5/13/2004 2:22:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Che Guevara had some of the most interesting insights into the problems of socialist construction since the days of Lenin. He is better known as a guerrilla fighter, but his essays on planning and other
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