Re: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-30 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Gar: >>>Carrol - I think you are overlooking the demand here. We are >>>dealing with a government doing the wrong thing against terrorist >>>who have killed a lot of people in the U.S. and successfully >>>terrorized them. We are opposed to the evil things this government >>>is doing in respon

RE: Re: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-30 Thread Brownson, Jamil
om: Yoshie Furuhashi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:20178] Re: What is to be done about Everything? Gar: >Carrol - I think you are overlooking the demand here. We are dealing >with a government doi

Re: Re: Re: RE: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-30 Thread Gar Lipow
Sorry - did no realize this was a closed topic. I have replied to several comments on my comments - but now that I see your post will reply to no more on this list. Michael Perelman wrote: > I thought that we had put this to bed. > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 08:43:51PM -0800, Gar Lipow wrote:

Re: Re: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-30 Thread Gar Lipow
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: > Gar: > >> Carrol - I think you are overlooking the demand here. We are dealing >> with a government doing the wrong thing against terrorist who have >> killed a lot of people in the U.S. and successfully terrorized them. >> We are opposed to the evil things this go

Re: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-30 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Gar: >Carrol - I think you are overlooking the demand here. We are dealing >with a government doing the wrong thing against terrorist who have >killed a lot of people in the U.S. and successfully terrorized them. >We are opposed to the evil things this government is doing in >response. We nee

Re: Re: RE: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-29 Thread Michael Perelman
I thought that we had put this to bed. On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 08:43:51PM -0800, Gar Lipow wrote: > > In response to a post by Carroll, I said: > > >We>need to be able to answer the question: "what would you do if you were > >in charge?". > >> > > > > Devine, James wrote in reply: > > > >

Re: RE: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-29 Thread Gar Lipow
In response to a post by Carroll, I said: >We>need to be able to answer the question: "what would you do if you were >in charge?". >> > Devine, James wrote in reply: > I sometimes say "this is what I would do if I were in charge" (such as not > terror-bombing Afghanistan) but I immediately

RE: Re: Re: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-29 Thread Devine, James
> We > need to be able to answer the question: "what would you do if you were > in charge?". I sometimes say "this is what I would do if I were in charge" (such as not terror-bombing Afghanistan) but I immediately qualify this by stating that it's impossible that such policies would be implemen

Re: Re: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-29 Thread Carrol Cox
Gar Lipow wrote: > > > > Carrol - I think ... > We > need to be able to answer the question: "what would you do if you were > in charge?". I and others, on this list and elsewhere, have put the arguments against this about as fully as they can be, so endlessly repeating them seem futile. A

Re: What is to be done about Everything?

2001-11-29 Thread Gar Lipow
Carrol Cox wrote: > ". . . what do you pacifists and fatalists and revolutionary defeatists > suggest be done? Just let them be? Act nice? Invite them over for > coffee?" > > This simply baffles me. All I can do is give a series of anecdotes, > fictional and actual. > > The nice thing about