Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-16 Thread Ricardo Duchesne
>Several people have communicated with me in the last day or so, >wanting to get off the list were complaining about the tone of >the list. Personal attacks seem to be becoming a bit more >common. Arrogant forms of communication in which people talk >down to other people is creating

Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread William S. Lear
On Monday, May 14, 2001 at 19:40:00 (-0700) Brad DeLong writes: I don't think that we need to bicker about the IMF. It is a tool of the oppressors and does terrible harm. Now, now. If there were no IMF--if there were no one willing and able to loan Argentina $40 billion to try to get it

Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread Andrew Hagen
The larger point is that vigorous discussions that include debating strongly held views is not incompatible with a pen-l that is mostly free of personalized attacks. We're in this together, after all. Andrew Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread Jim Devine
At 07:40 PM 05/14/2001 -0700, you wrote: I don't think that we need to bicker about the IMF. It is a tool of the oppressors and does terrible harm. Now, now. a classic patronizing phrase. If there were no IMF--if there were no one willing and able to loan Argentina $40 billion to try to get

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-15 Thread Ian Murray
Now it's unlikely that democracy will prevail on a world scale in the near future (since, heck, it doesn't even prevail in the U.S.) As a compromise, perhaps we could return the IMF to the original role that Keynes and White recommended it. Given the way in which the IMF has screwed things

Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
At 04:26 PM 5/14/01 -0700, you wrote: Several people have communicated with me in the last day or so, wanting to get off the list were complaining about the tone of the list. Personal attacks seem to be becoming a bit more common. Arrogant forms of communication in which people talk down to

Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I don't think that we need to bicker about the IMF. It is a tool of the oppressors and does terrible harm. Where we do have honest disagreements, we should express them respectfully. On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 07:40:07PM -0400, Louis Proyect wrote: Maybe there should be 2 PEN-L's, one for those

Re: Re: Re: pen-l malaise

2001-05-14 Thread Brad DeLong
I don't think that we need to bicker about the IMF. It is a tool of the oppressors and does terrible harm. Now, now. If there were no IMF--if there were no one willing and able to loan Argentina $40 billion to try to get it through its current episode of capital flight and foreign investor