Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-25 Thread Michael Hoover
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/23/2004 3:22:08 PM >>> >isn't it obvious >israeli strategy to incite hamas into becoming the primary >opposition, thus sidelining more moderate elements with >whom they >(israel) may be forced to negotiate with by their patrons >(the US)? >--ravi Or incite Hamas to reckless

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-24 Thread joanna bujes
Devine, James wrote: Jews have also played roles that were banned by the dominant religion (as with money-lending in medieval Europe), which is not exactly the same thing as being agents of the ruling class. (Jewish money-lenders weren't all like the Fuggers; they lent to the working classes, t

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-24 Thread Devine, James
Joanna writes: >It's funny how certain historical patterns repeat. It seems like the Jews wound up playing a similar role in Poland -- doing the dirty work for the landed artistocracy who could not dirty its hands with collecting rents, exploiting the serfs, etc. ...but could use the jews as its ag

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-24 Thread joanna bujes
It's funny how certain historical patterns repeat. It seems like the Jews wound up playing a similar role in Poland -- doing the dirty work for the landed artistocracy who could not dirty its hands with collecting rents, exploiting the serfs, etc. ...but could use the jews as its agents. This was d

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-24 Thread soula avramidis
In lefty and other lefty palestinian literature, zionism which has a broader scope than israel, is capable through israel still to inetervene where the the US and other imperialist find it diffcult to do in the third world. for instance its relationship to south africa during apartheid, to eritria

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-24 Thread joanna bujes
soula avramidis wrote: Zionist colonialism represents the ugliest face of modern imperialism, far worse than apartheid south Africa. but in all it remains part and parcel of the broader imperial agenda and its principal agent in the middle east. killing yassin has two implications.. I got to the p

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-23 Thread soula avramidis
Zionist colonialism represents the ugliest face of modern imperialism, far worse than apartheid south Africa. but in all it remains part and parcel of the broader imperial agenda and its principal agent in the middle east. killing yassin has two implications.. 1 it shows that Israel partly draws

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-23 Thread ravi
Marvin Gandall wrote: > Perhaps you misunderstood. I said exactly what you have said below. I don't > consider the action was "stupid" -- that's how it's been criticized in the > West and by Arab conservatives -- but cold-blooded calculation in accordance > with a long-held Likud strategy. > >

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-23 Thread Marvin Gandall
Gandall - Original Message - From: "ravi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Yassin assassination > Marvin Gandall wrote: > > Though widely decried as stupid... > > > > why is this

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-23 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Marvin Gandall wrote: Though widely decried as stupid... why is this assassination considered stupid? isn't it obvious israeli strategy to incite hamas into becoming the primary opposition, thus sidelining more moderate elements with whom they (israel) may be forced to negotiate with by their patro

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-23 Thread Devine, James
). Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message- > From: ravi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 11:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Yassin assassination > >

Re: Yassin assassination

2004-03-23 Thread ravi
Marvin Gandall wrote: > Though widely decried as stupid... > why is this assassination considered stupid? isn't it obvious israeli strategy to incite hamas into becoming the primary opposition, thus sidelining more moderate elements with whom they (israel) may be forced to negotiate with by their

Yassin assassination

2004-03-23 Thread Marvin Gandall
Though widely decried as stupid, Israel’s provocative assassination of sheikh Yassin simply underscores its opposition to a negotiated settlement with the Palestinians, according to today’s Wall Street Journal. Journal reporters Karby Leggett and Christopher Cooper note that the Sharon government’