Title: Re: Jim Craven review of Economics as Religion (from Marxmail)
That's a contradiction in liberalism that's as old as Hobbes and Locke:
invidualism is wonderful, so they say, until it starts undermining the
system that allows individualism to reign. I don't see how the latter
can
Economics as Religion: From Samuelson to Chicago and Beyond by Robert H.
Nelson, Penn State Press, N.Y., 2001
When I bought this book it was shrink-wrapped to prevent examining its
contents prior to purchase. I should have remembered my own axiom: If it
is shrink-wrapped to prevent examination
John Henry had a more positive review of the book, in that it showed the
contradictory nature of neo-liberal thought. Individualism is supposedly
good, but too much individualism is destructive.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel.
I wrote:normative assumptions seem inherent in the process of building
models. Models, by their very nature, simplify empirical reality in order to
understand it. Then you must decide which simplifying assumptions to
make. The standard one is perfect competition without externalities (etc.)
-- so
Positive economics is alive and well and living in Austria? What a
crock. Show me any orthodox micro analysis that isn't rife with
normative assumptions and I will genuflect with humiliation. I have
no worries that I will be so obliged.
normative assumptions seem inherent in the process
normative assumptions seem inherent in the process of building models.
Models, by their very nature, simplify empirical reality in order to
understand it. Then you must decide which simplifying assumptions to make.
The standard one is perfect competition without externalities (etc.) -- so
that
H-NET BOOK REVIEW
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Robert H. Nelson. _Economics as Religion: From Samuelson to Chicago
and Beyond_. University Park: Pennsylvania State University Press,
2001. xxvi + 378 pp. Index. $35.00 (cloth), ISBN 0-271-02095-4.
Reviewed for
Tollison has written extensively about the Catholic church as a monopoly
in the market for salvation. He is very conservative (of the Austrian
variety) and so would not be sympathetic to the book. That he was as
positive as he was suggests that the book might be good.
--
Michael Perelman
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At times
Jon Elster has a number of recent works on norms that seem to fit the bill;
the titles escape me just now. --jks
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Economics as Religion
From Samuelson to Chicago and Beyond
Robert H. Nelson
Spring 2001 | 392 pgs | 6 x 9
An insightful exploration of the powerful role that economic belief plays
in our modern society as a secular religion that serves many of the same
functions as early Christian and other
Could anyone offer a good book that deals with microeconomic behaviour
say of individuals to noneconomic wants (religion, group solidarity, and
the like)? I would prefer a less technical/modelling approach and more of
a truly interdisciplinary treatment, bringing to bear insights from
at Universities that
promote free market ideology and such.
Tim
--- Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Economics as Religion
From Samuelson to Chicago and Beyond
Robert H. Nelson
Spring 2001 | 392 pgs | 6 x 9
An insightful exploration of the powerful role that
economic belief plays
Harvey Cox had an article titled The Market as God in the ATLANTIC
MONTHLY. I don't know the date.
At 03:01 PM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote:
I'ver been working on an article for sometime about
the religion of the market. Thomas Frank, of Babbler
Magazine, sort of beat me to the punch with his One
Kenneth Boulding.
The Economy of Love and Fear.
mbs
Could anyone offer a good book that deals with microeconomic behaviour
say of individuals to noneconomic wants (religion, group solidarity, and
the like)? I would prefer a less technical/modelling approach and more of
a truly
The reviewer, Timur Kuran, has also writen on the subject.
On Mon, Jun 11, 2001 at 02:37:00PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote:
Economics as Religion
From Samuelson to Chicago and Beyond
Robert H. Nelson
Spring 2001 | 392 pgs | 6 x 9
An insightful exploration of the powerful role that economic
Some people from Auburn have written some nice stuff against the Catholic
church, describing the struggles of the reformation, as an attempt to
break the Catholic's monopoly on the market for salvation.
Here is a slightly different variant.
Ekelund, Robert B., Jr, Robert F. Hebert and Robert
June Nash, We Eat the Mines and the Mines Eat Us
Emile Zola, Germinal
Marshall Sahlins, Stone Age Economics
Harry Braverman, Labor and Monopoly Capital
David Noble, Forces of Production
At 02:52 PM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote:
Could anyone offer a good book that deals with microeconomic behaviour
On Monday, June 11, 2001 at 15:01:56 (-0700) Tim Bousquet writes:
I'ver been working on an article for sometime about
the religion of the market. Thomas Frank, of Babbler
Magazine, sort of beat me to the punch with his One
Market Under God, but there's still a lot to be said.
Ken Lay is example
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From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Here is a slightly different variant.
Ekelund, Robert B., Jr, Robert F. Hebert and Robert D. Tollison.
1989.
An Economic Model of the Medieval Church: Usury as a Form of Rent
Seeking. Journal of Law, Economics and
Michael Eisenscher wrote:
One of the aspirations of the gay rights movement is to establish a
far broader and more inclusive definition of "family" (as well as of
marriage). The women's movement has long fought to establish the legitimacy
of female-headed families.
I wish that's what's
Well, this is a complicated business. One must
distinguish "economic" from "social" issues here, which
some would not allow, of course. Thus, although the
leaders of the CC tend to be economically well-off white
males whose agenda is "conservative" on both economic and
social grounds,
At 10:10 AM 11/2/98 -0500, Max Sawicky wrote:
I imagine somebody could take 'family' as a
slur on non-nuclear families, but this strikes
me as leaning towards paranoia. If the left
can't appropriate the notion of family to its
own ends, it can hardly hope to redefine the
national political
On Mon, November 2, 1998 at 17:02:57 (-0500) Rosser Jr, John Barkley writes:
...
Many of the footsoldiers are African Americans, for
starters, and those tend to be definitely left-of-center on
the US political spectrum with respect to economic issues.
Doesn't this have to do with their
I don't disagree, Doug. The "progressives" and labor movement gurus have a
long and treasured (by them) record of pandering to the conservative side of
the spectrum of political views in the working class. But the challenge is
whether the Left will relinquish the field to the opportunists and
. . .
The AFL-CIO talks a lot about "working families" too; if you're unemployed
or single, well, you just don't play well in focus groups! But the
AFL-CIO's top economist, Tom Palley, used the phrase "family wage" at the
1997 URPE summer camp, and seemed perplexed when people objected.
Why
Max Sawicky wrote:
Why did they object?
Because "family wage" is a relic of the male breadwinner era. What's wrong
with "living wage," which doesn't have all the sexist baggage?
I imagine somebody could take 'family' as a
slur on non-nuclear families, but this strikes
me as leaning towards
Quoth Doug, in part:
Of course, there are some "leftists" who are trying to reach out to the
likes of Gary Bauer (see the Sept/Oct Mother Jones for an example), who is
running something called the Campaign for Working Families. No doubt the
New Party, Acorn, Democratic Party hacks, and
valis wrote:
"The Working Families Party"? There is, honestly?
Yes there is. It was put together by a group consisting of ex-NYC mayor
David Dinkins and some of his cronies, ACORN, the New Party, and some
"progressive" union types. It's very similar to electoral vehicles
assembled by a similar
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I have heard Sara Diamond argue that the footsoldiers of the Christian
Coalition are not particularly conservative.
Depends on how you define conservative. Their gender politics and notions
of morality are almost by definition conservative.
Of course, there are some
I have heard Sara Diamond argue that the footsoldiers of the Christian
Coalition are not particularly conservative.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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In the latest *Journal of Economic Literature* (Vol. XXXVI,
Sept. '98), Laurence R. Iannaccone (formerly a Visiting Scholar at the
Hoover Institution) has an "Introduction to the Economics of
Religion". In it, he makes a few interesting claims:
It is, in fact, only within
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