historical question

2003-06-26 Thread Michael Perelman
During the early 70s, we used to go to a wonderful vegetarian restaurant on Folsom or Howard in San Francisco. The people were spiritual. They required absolute silence and only charged a dollar or two for the meal. It was shut down after the owners were found to have subsidized their

[PEN-L:6309] Re: historical question

1999-05-03 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Michael, I used the term postmodernism to reflect the wierd sort of splitting up of broad political groupings in unexpected ways. Yeah, you did - but I'm not sure it's that weird in a world where PR so deeply penetrates public communications (you have be time-rich or professionally

[PEN-L:6306] historical question

1999-05-02 Thread Michael Perelman
I used the term postmodernism to reflect the wierd sort of splitting up of broad political groupings in unexpected ways. Maybe someone with a better sense of history than I have can tell me if World War I was the only event that caused this sort of splitting and fragmentation of political

[PEN-L:10803] Re: historical question

1997-06-13 Thread Anders Schneiderman
At 08:33 PM 6/12/97 -0700, you wrote: I'd like to agree with Ellen's comments and just add that during the Reagan years much of the heart of protective legislation for labor was decimated. For instance, many OSHA regulations were quietly taken off the books. Example: businesses are still

[PEN-L:10798] Re: historical question

1997-06-12 Thread MScoleman
In a message dated 97-06-11 12:31:30 EDT, you write: I'd like to suggest again that you not ignore the law and its impact here. David Montgomery's book, Citizen Worker, reviews how the law was enforced by the courts to weaken any rights workers had to act collectively. At the same time the

[PEN-L:10749] Re: historical question

1997-06-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Ellen Dannin wrote: I'd like to suggest again that you not ignore the law and its impact here. David Montgomery's book, Citizen Worker, reviews how the law was enforced by the courts to weaken any rights workers had to act collectively. At the same time the corporate form was being given the

[PEN-L:10765] Re: historical question

1997-06-11 Thread Michael Eisenscher
Ellen Dannin wrote: I'd like to suggest again that you not ignore the law and its impact here. David Montgomery's book, Citizen Worker, reviews how the law was enforced by the courts to weaken any rights workers had to act collectively. At the same time the corporate form was being given the

[PEN-L:10747] Re: historical question

1997-06-11 Thread Ellen Dannin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 11 Jun 1997, Michael Perelman wrote: James Devine wrote: Michael Perelman asks if labor has ever been so weak with such low unemployment rates ("tight" labor markets). I'd say yes. The 1920s was a period of labor weakness, but low U rates: Jim D. correctly notes that union

[PEN-L:10745] Re: historical question

1997-06-11 Thread Michael Perelman
James Devine wrote: Michael Perelman asks if labor has ever been so weak with such low unemployment rates ("tight" labor markets). I'd say yes. The 1920s was a period of labor weakness, but low U rates: Jim D. correctly notes that union participation was low in the 1920s. In part, that

[PEN-L:10740] Re: tight labor markets -- a historical question

1997-06-10 Thread Ellen Dannin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One thing that seems to be affecting union power and thus the attractiveness of unions to members has been the expansion of the legal doctrine which allows employers to implement their final offers upon reaching impasse. Beginning in the mid-1980's the NLRB became increasingly willing to find

[PEN-L:10738] Re: tight labor markets -- a historical question

1997-06-10 Thread Michael Eisenscher
FYI: I don't have the unemployment rates for the corresponding years, but for the years of Welfare Capitalism and the American Plan cited by Jim Devine, you can see that 1929 comes closest to what we experience today (private sector union membership density in 1995 was 10.3%). Union density (%

[PEN-L:10725] historical question

1997-06-10 Thread James Devine
Michael Perelman asks if labor has ever been so weak with such low unemployment rates ("tight" labor markets). I'd say yes. The 1920s was a period of labor weakness, but low U rates: 192111.7% 1922 6.7 1923 2.4 1924 5.0 1925 3.2 1926 1.8 1927 3.3 1928 4.2

[PEN-L:10723] tight labor markets -- a historical question

1997-06-10 Thread Michael Perelman
Has labor ever been this weak with labor markets this tight? -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 916-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]