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2002-09-10 Thread ken hanly
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30061] Re: RE: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not only that but Husky chain saws are among the best. There is even an ad for a husky grass whipper that shows someone trimming the grass around a telephone pole and as the person moves to the next one the pole falls down. So as usual Lo

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2002-09-07 Thread Patrick Bond
After noting on Mark's A-list that I got Robert's excellent book for $15 equivalent in South Africa a year or so ago, I went over to the Johannesburg Workers Library bookshop and found many many other recent Zeds for $6. Farouk, great cross-subsidisation (for us who are in the US$1,000/month range

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2002-09-06 Thread ravi
Doug Henwood wrote: > ravi wrote: >> Doug Henwood wrote: >> >>> Shiva's biggest fans are among Western NGOs. She has almost no >>> followers in India. >>> >> can you back up this statement? > > I've heard it from people in the antiglobo movement, and from Ulhas > Joglekar on either this list or

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2002-09-05 Thread Patrick Bond
- Original Message - From: "Doug Henwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Shiva's biggest fans are among Western NGOs. She has almost no > followers in India. How does someone get nominated as the "authentic > voice" of the oppressed anyway? Hey comrades, she has lots of grassroots South Africa fan

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2002-09-05 Thread Doug Henwood
ravi wrote: >Doug Henwood wrote: >> >>Shiva's biggest fans are among Western NGOs. She has almost no >>followers in India. >> > >can you back up this statement? I've heard it from people in the antiglobo movement, and from Ulhas Joglekar on either this list or lbo-talk. Doug

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2002-09-05 Thread Sabri Oncu
> how about "Support Vishnu"? > JD Nah! Not good. "Support Vishne" is much better. Vishne means sour cherry in my language. Therefore, "Support Vishne" is ecologically more correct. Moreover, Coca Cola's attempts to take over the vishne juice business back home is a serious problem for my poor vi

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2002-09-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30071] Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I wonder if "Support Shiva" makes a good slogan for mobilizing yankees against the Iraq invasion. < how about "Support Vishnu"? JD

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2002-09-05 Thread Tom Walker
Eugene Coyle wrote, > It is and has been perfectly legal and accepted, for a long time, to use > condoms in Ireland. > > You just have to chainsaw the tip off before donning. Jaysus friggin' Christ, Gene, you wouldn't be needing a condom if you did that! Unless it was for a tourniquet. Tom Walk

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2002-09-05 Thread Carrol Cox
ravi wrote: > > Doug Henwood wrote: > > > > Shiva's biggest fans are among Western NGOs. She has almost no followers > > in India. > > > > can you back up this statement? perhaps starting with a more quanititative > description of what you mean by "almost no". what counts as "almost no"? > is

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2002-09-05 Thread Eugene Coyle
It is and has been perfectly legal and accepted, for a long time, to use condoms in Ireland. You just have to chainsaw the tip off before donning. Tom Walker wrote: > This Husqvarnaquistholm sounds like a dangerous fellow. I understand he's > also for clear-cutting old growth forests. Just one

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2002-09-05 Thread ravi
Doug Henwood wrote: > > Shiva's biggest fans are among Western NGOs. She has almost no followers > in India. > can you back up this statement? perhaps starting with a more quanititative description of what you mean by "almost no". what counts as "almost no"? is it 0? < 10? < 100? < 1% of the i

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2002-09-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30065] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] didn't St. Pat chase the condoms out of Ireland? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > -Original Message- > From: Tom Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, Septem

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2002-09-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30064] Re: RE: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Jones wrote:>Those  who want to silence such authentic voices > >of the oppressed women of the South as Vandana Shiva are its > >servants.< me: > >could you name someone who wants to _silence_ Shiva? as opposed to > >simply disag

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2002-09-05 Thread Tom Walker
This Husqvarnaquistholm sounds like a dangerous fellow. I understand he's also for clear-cutting old growth forests. Just one point of clarification, though. Did he actually say condors or condoms? If it was condoms, did he mean Ireland, not Great Britain? > He argues that if Great Britain surviv

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2002-09-05 Thread Doug Henwood
Devine, James wrote: >Mark Jones writes:>Those who want to silence such authentic voices >of the oppressed women of the South as Vandana Shiva are its >servants.< > >could you name someone who wants to _silence_ Shiva? as opposed to >simply disagreeing with her opinions and thus being willing

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2002-09-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30061] Re: RE: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >There is a graduate student in Sweden named Bo Husqvarnaquistholm who is closely aligned with Bjorn Lomborg, the self-described skeptical environmentalist who favors global warming< heck, if I lived in Sweden, maybe I'd favor global w

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2002-09-05 Thread Louis Proyect
Devine, James wrote: > Mark Jones writes:>Those who want to silence such authentic voices of > the oppressed women of the South as Vandana Shiva are its servants.< > > could you name someone who wants to _silence_ Shiva? as opposed to > simply disagreeing with her opinions and thus being willi

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2002-09-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30058] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Jones writes:>These silent, invisible women, hundreds of millions of them, are a condition of existence of late capitalism, of US imperialism in  its exterminist phase of final decay.< what makes you think that US imperialism is in its phas

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2002-09-05 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L:30058] Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Jones writes:>Those  who want to silence such authentic voices of the oppressed women of the South as Vandana Shiva are its servants.< could you name someone who wants to _silence_ Shiva? as opposed to simply disagreeing with her opinions a

Re: r.biel@ucl.ac.uk

2002-09-05 Thread Mark Jones
At 05/09/2002 19:29, Louis Proyect wrote: >Robert Biel's "The New Imperialism: Crisis and Contradictions in >North/South Relations" (Zed Books, 2000) is everything that Hardt-Negri's >"Empire" is not. This is a wonderful book by Biel and, prompted by my mentor Lou Proyect, I just spent a day a

r.biel@ucl.ac.uk

2002-09-05 Thread Louis Proyect
Robert Biel's "The New Imperialism: Crisis and Contradictions in North/South Relations" (Zed Books, 2000) is everything that Hardt-Negri's "Empire" is not. Starting with the premise that there *is* such a thing as imperialism--as opposed to some nebulous concept of Empire--Biel supplies the ki