On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Louis Proyect wrote:
* * * I have to confess that the discussion about "technology" sort
of baffles me since it seems detached from the broader question of how
society is organized.
There is no question that automation of blue-collar and white-collar work
has led to
Ellen Dannin wrote:
On Mon, 29 Dec 1997, Louis Proyect wrote:
* * * I have to confess that the discussion about "technology" sort
of baffles me since it seems detached from the broader question of how
society is organized.
There is no question that automation of blue-collar and
Returning from a pleasant vacation in Austin, Texas where I had the great
pleasure to meet Bill Lear over lunch and to discuss prospects for a PEN-L
web page with him (more about this later), I sifted through my email late
last night. I have to confess that the discussion about "technology" sort
the discussion between Bill and myself that follows mostly involves agreement.
Bill Lear writes: I'm not so sure I agree that the growth of the info
economy coincides with deskilling. Didn't this sort of separation [between
conception and execution] long precede the information age? ...
yes.
On Fri, December 26, 1997 at 07:54:25 (-0800) James Devine writes:
...
BTW, there are efforts to deskill programming, by having the code-writers
focus on only modules or "objects" rather than the whole program. I don't
know how successful these efforts are.
One of the standard ways of
Available when?
The books is
Class Struggles in the Information Age (Macmillan). The galley's are now
being prepared. Thanks for your interest.
Michael,
I know that there is often a hesitancy to engage in self promotion via
email. But I think it would be very useful and
I was taken by Michael P.'s discussion of the information economy of picking
melons. In the real world, it's the melon-picker who uses his or her
judgement to read the information about when or whether to pick melons. In
Michael's imaginary scenario, there would be a division of labor
On Thu, December 25, 1997 at 16:40:45 (-0800) James Devine writes:
What this says to me is that the growth of the so-called "information
economy" coincides with the process of deskilling that Braverman
highlighted. The second worker -- the symbolic analyst -- has taken some of
the first worker's
It seems to me that all this discussion actually ties very well into the Hahnel
and Albert Participatory Economics. Doug Henwood was asking whether a more
humane system could appropriate all the benefits of modernization and separate
them from exploitation, polarization, and the destruction of
I am not sure, but they have been very quick so far. I would guest that
the book would be available in a month or two.
Available when?
The books is
Class Struggles in the Information Age (Macmillan). The galley's are now
being prepared. Thanks for your interest.
Michael,
I was taken by Michael P.'s discussion of the information economy of picking
melons. In the real world, it's the melon-picker who uses his or her
judgement to read the information about when or whether to pick melons. In
Michael's imaginary scenario, there would be a division of labor between one
The fear of Ceasar Chavez led to the invention of the tomato harvester.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 916-898-5321
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Michael,
Interesting point. Is this an off-hand opinion or supported by some
evidence? Reason I ask is that I am not aware of any efforts by UFW in the
period of the development of mechanical harvesters to target tomato pickers
for organization, and given that these machines, as I recall, were
The books is
Class Struggles in the Information Age (Macmillan). The galley's are now
being prepared. Thanks for your interest.
Michael,
I know that there is often a hesitancy to engage in self promotion via
email. But I think it would be very useful and desirable if you'd post the
Scully was only one of a number of marketing types that came into the
computer business. A good number came from the soft drink industry,
beginning with the fellow who ran Osborne. None of these suits ever
learnt to master the computer industry. They could understand sugar water
better than
Michael,
I know that there is often a hesitancy to engage in self promotion via
email. But I think it would be very useful and desirable if you'd post the
details on your new book when it's published so that the rest of us can
get a copy.
Cheers,
Sid Shniad
At 05:31 PM 12/24/97 +1100, Ajit Sinha wrote:
At 11:51 23/12/97 -0800, Mike E. wrote:
While what you say here is true, my understanding is that the primary
motivation for the development of new varieties of tomatoes at the UC-Davis
Agricultural School was the need for a variety that would be
Michael Perelman wrote, in conclusion:
With the transformation of images and voice, as
well as data, to digital form, alongside the more general commodification of
cultural life, the distinction between data proper and, say, a movie, becomes
blurred within the
At 11:51 23/12/97 -0800, Mike E. wrote:
While what you say here is true, my understanding is that the primary
motivation for the development of new varieties of tomatoes at the UC-Davis
Agricultural School was the need for a variety that would be tough enough to
hold up to harvesting by
At 10:22 AM 12/23/97 -0800, Michael Perelman wrote:
[SNIP]
Those who have studied the development of agricultural technology know full
well that if field work did not require considerable human decision making, it
would have been mechanized long ago. The tomato is a perfect example. Many
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