Pen-L'ers,
On the topic of Michael Moore's conceptions and representations of
the U.S. working class, Michael Eisenscher says,
Michael Moore frequently makes great sense, but his view of the "working
class" is about as stereotyped as that of many off-the-wall leftists. To
listen to him, you'd
Michael Moore frequently makes great sense, but his view of the "working
class" is about as stereotyped as that of many off-the-wall leftists. To
listen to him, you'd think that the only real workers are "Joe 6-packs" who
hang out at bowling allies, stock car races, monster tractor meets, and
hird world
loan default, Jimmy Carter's "malaise" . . .
Those ripening contradictions turned out to be mulch for reaction and
retrenchment rather than fodder for revolution. The current set of ripening
contradictions shouldn't be a surprise for anyone who follows the rhythm of
ripenings.
In many respects, the contradictions were "riper" in the late 1970s and
early 1980s.
Well today we have a much worse economic situation for the non-rich- wages
have been falling since then. Also, many people remember the late 70's as a
time of jobs for the asking, while today i suspect many
nkruptcies, the threat of third world
loan default, Jimmy Carter's "malaise" . . .
Those ripening contradictions turned out to be mulch for reaction and
retrenchment rather than fodder for revolution. The current set of ripening
contradictions shouldn't be a surprise for anyone who follows the
friends,
it seems hard to believe that micxhael moore can be called a hypocrite. in what
sense? he certainly puts his money where his mouth is, by, for example, giving
time and money to the workers at borders to help their union drives, as well as
allowing his new film to be used for
On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Doug Henwood wrote:
The authors don't draw this conclusion, but those three clouds, plus the
fourth, the fast-trace defeat, look like the ripening contradictions of the
hypercapitalism of the last 20 years. If the Asian "miracle" is over, then
the export model
The NY Press, which
Cockburn writes for, has been attacking Moore as a do-nothing hypocrite for
a while now and Cockburn has entered the fray.
If that is a good summary of Alex's position on MM, that's pretty weak. If
'the masses' are ripe for organization, I'd posit that Moore has aided in
So, comrades, what is to be done?
World revolution, now! Of course. I know because I read Workers Vanguard.
Doug
Aw Doug,
First we need to have an internecine war between revisonists, mensheviks,
true trots and false trots*then* and only then can we have a world
revolution
Steve
I really don't know what Doug is talking about.
I just got my IMF Survey a couple of days ago
and the headline reads: "Camdessus Commends
Indonesia's 'Impressive' Economic Policy
Program". Obviously, nothing is wrong
with the far east.(;-))
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
Dave Markland:
As Michael Moore wrote recently, the left has to get off its butt, stop
infighting, and get to the people who will make a difference: the bus driver
with a second job to make ends meet; the waitress who's a single mom; these
people are about 3 inches from denouncing capitalism,
William S. Lear wrote:
First, I'm very leery of "ripening contradictions", as I remember
hearing about those continually for the past umpteen years, and
somehow, capitalism always seems to right itself.
Oh god, me too. I'm very very wary of crisis talk, which is one reason I'm
so
onclusion, but those three clouds, plus the
fourth, the fast-track defeat, look like the ripening contradictions of the
hypercapitalism of the last 20 years.
Let me play a half-serious Doubting Thomas to some very good
observations by Doug.
First, I'm very leery of "ripening contradiction
ce defeat, look like the ripening contradictions of the
hypercapitalism of the last 20 years. If the Asian "miracle" is over, then
the export model is in need of a serious rethink; if the U.S. can't get its
allies to sign onto a bombing run over Baghdad or the continued isolation
of Iran, th
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