Dollar on the cusp?

2001-07-12 Thread Chris Burford
http://www.iht.com/articles/25811.htm Apart from the forex department of transnational corporations, there is probably no readership more interested in the future direction of international exchange rates than that of the International Herald Tribune. This article above, Traders Find Little

East Timor

2001-07-12 Thread Keaney Michael
(Thanks to Alan Bradley on the Marxism list for the following.) The following article appears in the current issue of Green Left Weekly (http://www.greenleft.org.au/): Who gains most from New Timor gap treaty? On July 5, representatives of the East Timor Transitional Cabinet, the United

The old order continues to unravel

2001-07-12 Thread Keaney Michael
Penners The Guardian newspaper has played a key role in the defeat of the Conservative Party, bringing down a succession of government ministers during the Major era and apparently continuing the good work with its strangely timely exposure of Michael Portillo's financial dealings. The

Redistribution under New Labour

2001-07-12 Thread Keaney Michael
New hospital with too few beds 'grossly inadequate' Sarah Boseley, health editor Thursday July 12, 2001 The Guardian A new NHS hospital, built with private finance at a cost of £76m, is 54 beds short of the number it needs just 14 weeks after it opened, it emerged yesterday. North Durham

Humanitarian intervention

2001-07-12 Thread Keaney Michael
Penners This is a curious development. Previously I forwarded the list another article by this author on this topic which yielded information which, for the most part, is simply repeated again in the following article, with a few additional interesting snippets (see

Re: Global warming

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Pollak
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Rob Schaap wrote: Might Dubya's backflip be explained in terms of a contradiction between use value and exchange value? I mean, it looks like Western Europe (and poor ol' desertified Oz) will suffer far worse than most of the USA. Sure, the USA will suffer. The whole

Re: Re: BLS Daily Report

2001-07-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Tom Walker wrote: Doug Henwood wrote, remember, the U.S. economy has expanded for about 75% of the time since the end of WW II That sounds like an underestimate to me. All I've got handy is annual GDP figures for Canada, 1962-99. They show 3 years out of 38 contracting. Assuming those 3

Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
Sam Pawlett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How are they [poor countries as they develop] to pay for it [limiting environmental damage]? World Bank loans? I try not to assume anything, but it's safe to say that LDC countries will follow the path of least resistance (i.e. the cheapest) towards

Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Perelman
Rich countries reduce pollution, in part, by exporting it to poor countries. On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:44:00AM -0400, Julio Huato wrote: Sam Pawlett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How are they [poor countries as they develop] to pay for it [limiting environmental damage]? World Bank loans? I try not

Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Julio Huato wrote: IMO, the main obstacle to the development of capitalism in the Third World is not imperialism. What is? Doug

Re: oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/01 05:20PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/01 03:57PM CB: Can't one just heat it and let it evaporate ? On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:13:10PM -0400, Charles Brown wrote: = What will you do to trap the toxic chemicals from diffusing into the atmosphere

Re: Re: oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Ian Murray
CB: Can't one just heat it and let it evaporate ? On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 02:13:10PM -0400, Charles Brown wrote: = What will you do to trap the toxic chemicals from diffusing into the atmosphere [atmofractal :-)] and killing people? CB: Filter the steam ?

: oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Brown
Oh, I see ( :)) . How'd the current hydrogen and oxygen atoms that comprise water get together ? CB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/01 06:05PM CB: I didn't know about the chemically bonding contamination. How much is contaminated ? Sounds like a small percentage . How about taking a bunch of

oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/01 06:03PM -clip- Now, if we can only figure out what to do with the salt... tim ( CB: Maybe it will be the basis for a new kind of computer chip.

Re: : oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Ian Murray
Oh, I see ( :)) . How'd the current hydrogen and oxygen atoms that comprise water get together ? CB = The Ein Sof playing with 'it' 'self'. In the beginning, God blew himself into a bazillion pieces in order to have some friends. This may not be true, but it sounds good and is

Re: oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Charles Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:33 AM Subject: [PEN-L:15040] oil predictions [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/01 06:03PM -clip- Now, if we can only figure out what to do with the salt... tim

Rats abandon ship... pundits spin like mad

2001-07-12 Thread Tom Walker
The following briefing.com piece is hilarious for the way that it tries to find an 'optimistic' rationale for a market play whose most likely explanation can be found at the end of the third paragraph: 12:00PM: Up until last night, the market was reeling from the thought that the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rich countries reduce pollution, in part, by exporting it to poor countries. If Third World countries get to grow, they are likely to be in a position to limit or negotiate this in better terms.

BLS Daily Report

2001-07-12 Thread Richardson_D
BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS, DAILY REPORT, JULY 12, 2001: RELEASED TODAY: The U.S. Import Price Index decreased 0.5 percent in June, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. The decline, the fourth in the past 5 months, was attributable to falling prices for both petroleum and

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
Doug Henwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Julio Huato wrote: IMO, the main obstacle to the development of capitalism in the Third World is not imperialism. What is? Doug To state it in general may not be particularly helpful. But here it goes. In my opinion, the main obstacle to the development of

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread michael pugliese
This sounds like the articulation of modes of production approach reviewed back in the late 70's in NLR by Aidan-Foster-Carter. Another part of what Julio says sounds like to me like the Peruvian economist touted by Mario Vargas Llosa, and the late Richard Milhous Nixon, whose name I'm

oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/10/01 05:19PM (( CB: I didn't know about the chemically bonding contamination. How much is contaminated ? Sounds like a small percentage . How about taking a bunch of hydrogen and oxygen and combining it to make new water ? === That's where the Star

Re: Re: BLS Daily Report

2001-07-12 Thread Charles Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/11/01 05:34PM - remember, the U.S. economy has expanded for about 75% of the time since the end of WW II, though you'd never know that by reading PEN-L - CB: What percentage of the time before WWII did the U.S. economy expand ?

RE: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread David Shemano
The New York Times Magazine had a lengthy article about Hernando de Soto on July 1: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/01/magazine/01DESOTO.html?pagewanted=all What is especially interesting is that he is apparently catching on in various places: Aristide in Haiti and Mubarak in Egypt, among

Re: oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Pugliese
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/images/swas/bigmelt.jpg KEWL!!! http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast11jul_1.htm?list52322 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2001/07/11/nati onal1701EDT0695.DTL - Original Message - From: Charles Brown [EMAIL

Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
michael pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This sounds like the articulation of modes of production approach reviewed back in the late 70's in NLR by Aidan-Foster-Carter. Another part of what Julio says sounds like to me like the Peruvian economist touted by Mario Vargas Llosa, and the late Richard

Re: Humanitarian intervention

2001-07-12 Thread Chris Burford
At 12/07/01 11:58 +0300, you wrote: Penners This is a curious development. Previously I forwarded the list another article by this author on this topic which yielded information which, for the most part, is simply repeated again in the following article, with a few additional interesting

On the run

2001-07-12 Thread Chris Burford
IHT Thursday Canada is so worried that rioters could wreck a summit of world leaders in Ottawa next year that it is debating whether to move the event to a more remote site in the west of the country, senior diplomatic sources said on Wednesday. In 2002 Canada will hold the presidency of the

Re: Hardt-Negri's Empire: a Marxist critique, part 4 (conclusion)

2001-07-12 Thread Chris Burford
At 10/07/01 16:21 +0300, you wrote: Forwarded from Louis Proyect: Hardt-Negri's Empire: a Marxist critique, part 4 (conclusion) Thanks to Michael Keaney for forwarding the fourth and last part of this critique by Louis Proyect, which I would now like to comment on. The critique is clearly

Re: BLS Daily Report

2001-07-12 Thread Tom Walker
If I didn't know you better, Doug, I'd have guessed the So let me see if I've got this right gambit is a holdover from your adolescent right-wing Yale period. You can take the boy out of the Buckley, but you can't take the Buckley out of the boy. Jez kiddin'. No, of course you don't have it

Speaking of volatility . . .

2001-07-12 Thread Tom Walker
Paging Dr. Schaap, paging Dr. Schaap . . . What's your take on the MerValous paroxysm at NASDAQ? The scent of death sure gets the vultures aflutter, eh? Tom Walker Bowen Island, BC 604 947 2213

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take onHubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Pugliese
I knew I should have phrased that differently! Just the bit about, (2) 'superstructural' constraints, such as laws, lack thereof, etcweak legal systems, corruption, etc. in the poor countries... made me think of the de Soto. (Not the auto from the 50's!)

Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Tom Walker
It's deja vu all over again (only this time it's going to be different): Even bad news couldn't shake the market. Investors looked past a U.S. government report that the number of Americans lining up to receive first-time unemployment benefits last week reached its highest level since 1992.

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: : Yet another take on Hubbert's peak

2001-07-12 Thread Julio Huato
Michael Pugliese [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I knew I should have phrased that differently! No. It's fair, Michael. And thank you for all the URLs. I have heard of de Soto before. Louis Proyect already honored me by associating me with him. But I haven't read him directly. Now I should.

Re: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Tom Walker wrote: You tell me it's a big recession Well at least it'll reduce the workweek. Doug

Re: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, Everyone will laugh at you on C-Span thanks, Doyle Saylor

FW: more on XP activation

2001-07-12 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Economists, In the disabled community the new XP operating system Microsoft will introduce in October has been generating disability access issues very strongly. Here is a forward from Vicug Visually Impaired Computer User Group raising the issue of disabled access to the new OS XP.

oil predictions

2001-07-12 Thread Les Schaffer
charles asked: How about taking a bunch of hydrogen and oxygen and combining it to make new water ? to which ian replied: That's where the Star Trek technology comes in. You'd need a quantum computer capable of synthesizing probability amplitudes from the Planck scale; it's not even

RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Gold

2001-07-12 Thread David Shemano
In reply to Jim Devine: Instead of engaging in a specific point-counter-point, let me make a series of comments and ask a couple of questions that are generally responsive to your statements. 1. What is the evidence that the gold standard had anything to do with the economic contraction in

Re: Re: Hardt-Negri's Empire: a Marxist critique,part 4 (conclusion)

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Pugliese
Another critique of same, forwarded from Thomas Seay via a list that has focused on "Empire", If I am not mistaken. One list, of the 115, I'm not on! ;-) Michael Pugliese --- Erik Empson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Erik Empson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 9

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Gold

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Perelman
David, I am not sure that anybody but you and Jim are following this discussion. What you claim would be largely orrect in a world without any credit whatsoever. Anyway, if this is not of general interest, maybe it could continue with you an Jim offlist? On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 06:59:44PM

Re: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Tom Walker
Doyle Saylor wrote, Everyone will laugh at you on C-Span Nice try, but its a stretch. Doug Henwood wrote, Well at least it'll reduce the workweek. That doesn't even rhyme. Think, Doug: beancan? meanman? steamfan? cleanscan? And here I thought you were an English major. On second thought

Re: Speaking of volatility . . .

2001-07-12 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Tom, Paging Dr. Schaap, paging Dr. Schaap . . . I'm sure Doug has me down as the anesthetist ... What's your take on the MerValous paroxysm at NASDAQ? The scent of death sure gets the vultures aflutter, eh? The Lesser Speckled Argentinian Vulture is remarkable for its habit of

carrying capacity and crisis

2001-07-12 Thread Ken Hanly
Mark Jones sees the coming crisis as based upon lack of oil caused not just by limited reserves but alos a capital shortage so great as to hinder development of those reserves because of an accumulation crisis. In the background there seems to be the assumption that somehow Liebig's law of the

Stratfor: Montesinos arrest could lead to trouble for Chavez

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Pugliese
www.antiwar.com is routing y'all to Defense Systems Daily for Stratfor. http://defence-data.com/current/page11556.htm Michael Pugliese

Re: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Rob Schaap
You say you want an intervention Well you know We all want to change the rate You tell me it's a big recession Well you know We all want to change the rate But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Greenspan . . . Well Canute couldn't do it and I doubt he can Don't you know there's

Re: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Doyle Saylor
Greetings Critical Economists, Buenos Aires defaults yo spam. ? I win if I am the only entry! Doyle Saylor

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Gold

2001-07-12 Thread Joel Blau
Michael: I don't thnk it should be pushed off list, but if it is, I'd like to be included. Joel Blau Michael Perelman wrote: David, I am not sure that anybody but you and Jim are following this discussion. What you claim would be largely orrect in a world without any credit whatsoever.

Re: Re: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Doug Henwood
Tom Walker wrote: Doug Henwood wrote, Well at least it'll reduce the workweek. That doesn't even rhyme. Think, Doug: beancan? meanman? steamfan? cleanscan? And here I thought you were an English major. On second thought maybe that explains it. Rhyme is so 18th century. Pope saw capitalism

Re: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Gold

2001-07-12 Thread Michael Pollak
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Michael Perelman wrote: David, I am not sure that anybody but you and Jim are following this discussion. Actually I'm enjoying Jim's responses a lot. Michael __ Michael PollakNew

Re: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Tom Walker
Doyle Saylor asked: ? I win if I am the only entry! Too late, Doyle. Rob put in a contender. And we still haven't heard from Jim three bears Devine and Max the tax Sawicky. Tom Walker Bowen Island, BC 604 947 2213

Re: Speaking of volatility

2001-07-12 Thread Tom Walker
Rob Schaap wrote, It'll wear off by lunchtime, and it'll hurt all the more then. Was that lunch Tokyo time? Tokyo stocks open mixed after Nasdaq surge Tokyo stocks falter by midday, buck U.S. surge Tom Walker Bowen Island, BC 604 947 2213

RE: Crap alert!

2001-07-12 Thread Max Sawicky
You say you want an intervention Well you know We all want to change the rate You tell me it's a big recession Well you know We all want to change the rate But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Greenspan . . . [Pen-l contest: complete the last line here, what rhymes with Greenspan,