Re: Neuroeconomics

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-06-22 06:43 -0400, Michael Hoover wrote:
an article was published in the New York Times
a couple of days ago about the new specialty of neuroeconomics.
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/17/science/17NEUR.html

It is described as a revolution in economics, and should go a long
way towards addressing the reservations which have been expressed in
many quarters about the scientific underpinnings of economics and the
validity of its prevailing theories and methodologies.  This would
seem to be relevant to political science because these methodologie
appear to have invaded the discipline.


I think it is true that empirical, almost naive, experimental developments,
are undermining the previous scientific paradigm. This journalistic
article shows some of the mounting evidence.
Whether the term neuro-economics will catch on as more than a fashion is
hard to say. But the field sounds as if it will attract growing research
funding.
What I suggest is happening is that a number of developments are
undermining the assumption that economic behaviour can be modelled with a
simple model that all economic actors are rational people.
This is undermining the ideological assumption imposed by capitalism by way
of a model of eternal human nature, that everyone acts like an atomised
individual, who is the counterpart of the atomised commodity, which is the
basis of the capitalist mode of production.
In fact however just as the commodity contains a fetishistic power - the
social context in which it was produced and in which it will contribute, so
do humans all act within a social context, partly unconsciously, partly
consciously.
Part of the new empirical studies are based on new techniques of brain
imaging, which are enormously crude, but essentially demonstrate that all
parts of the brain are interconnected, which makes sense since in external
reality everything is connected with everything else.
The average number of neurones that feed excitatory or inhibitory impulses
into another neurone is of the order of 1000. With roughly 10^11 neurones
in the human brain, the number of synapses is of the order of 10^14.
It is quite impossible to assume that cognitive processes have evolved in
the human brain separately from emotional processes.
These brain imaging studies give conformation of what market researchers
know about subjective emotional factors in economic activity.
Brain imaging studies have been used now to correlate with models of
increasingly sophisticated games. These games have gone beyond the
prisoner's dilemma. The game reported in this article is particularly
interesting because it can only be explained by arguing that human beings
in their economic activity are motivated by non-selfish collective
responses as well as self interested ones.
While the article talks knowledgeably about individual neuro-transmitters,
and neurological structures, dopamine is only one of one thousand
neuro-transmitters in the human brain. All these neurones and
neurotransmitters of course feed back on each other and modulate each
other. Any simply rectilinear model of psychological causation is likely to
be facile nonsense. The brain, like the mind, like economics, like society,
is a complex self-organising dynamical system.


Marx

Although Marx of course did not have neuro-imaging techniques or
computerised modelling, I suggest this incipient revolution is by no means
incompatible with the assumptions in his critique of capitalist political
economy.
Note, briefly, that in the comments on the architect and the bee, (Chapter
7 para 2 Capital Vol I) he insists on the role of imagination in commodity
production. And while he does not spell it out at that point, the worker
not only has to create the use object for exchange but must also imagine
the likely market for the use value that is being created.
Further, some of Marx's remarks are compatible with aspects of emerging
evolutionary psychology, (although not the simplistic version which
essentially tries to argue that the evils of capitalist society are
determined for ever in our genes).
Marx insists that man is a social animal:

man is, if not as Aristotle contends, a political, at all events, a social
animal (Chapter 13 para 8 Capital 1). The footnote at this point observes,
Strictly, Aristotle's definition is that man is by nature a town-citizen.
This is quite as characteristic of ancient classical society as Franklin's
definition of man, as a tool-making animal, is characteristic of Yankeedom.
In a footnote at the beginning of Chapter 24 Section 5, Marx denounces
Bentham as an arch-Philistine, and a purely English phenomenon (just to
be impartial). He writes here about human nature: To know what is useful
for a dog, one must study dog-nature. This nature itself is not to be
deduced from the principle of human utility. [Bentham's reductionist
simplification]. Applying this to man, he that would criticise all human
acts, movements, relations, etc., by the principle of utility, must 

US: Outsourcing the occupation of Iraq

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Turkey offers 1,200-1,800 soldiers to assist US in Iraq

The United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz
declared that Turkey offered relief aid and other assistance in
the rebuild of Iraq, as well as 1,200 to 1,800 troops.

According to a news article published in influential American
newspaper the New York Times, between 20,000 and 30,000 allied
troops from more than a dozen nations will begin arriving in Iraq
in mid-August to replace some of the American forces leading the
military occupation there. The international forces -- from
countries including Italy, Spain, Ukraine and Honduras -- would
join divisions led by Britain, Poland and perhaps another
country, possibly India, and assume responsibilities for parts of
central and southern Iraq.

The News York Times also reported that Pentagon officials are
negotiating with several other countries, including some that did
not support the war. Defense officials have set aside their anger
at Turkey for refusing to allow American forces to enter northern
Iraq through Turkish territory during the war, to discuss
Ankara's offers of reconstruction support.

According to the newspaper, the U.S. administration officials met
recently with the Turkish Foreign Ministry's second-ranking
official Ambassador Ugur Ziyal, who offered relief aid and other
assistance, as well as 1,200 to 1,800 troops. Turkey is eager
now to assist us in the reconstruction of Iraq, Mr. Wolfowitz
said. That's just one example of a country that has begun to
move in our direction.

Assistant Secretary of Defense Peter W. Rodman recently visited
New Delhi to discuss troop commitments with Indian officials. A
cabinet committee has yet to decide how to proceed, and the
Indian government has said it will consult other political
parties before deciding.

How many American troops will remain in Iraq depends largely on
the security situation there and how many other nations
ultimately send forces, officials said. There are now about
146,000 American troops in Iraq, just 5,000 fewer than at the
peak of the war. About 12,000 troops from Britain and seven other
countries are also on the ground.

Ankara - Turkish Daily News

Article at:

http://www.turkishdailynews.com/old_editions/06_21_03/for.htm#f10


Re: Query from a Venezuelan (reply to Chris B.)

2003-06-23 Thread Grant Lee
 From:Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Coincidentally I was doing a Google search and came across this
 contribution to LBO-talk in October 2001 by Greg Schofield, which seems to
 put the issue well.
 [Unfortunately his email address no longer seems to be working. If anyone
 can forward me his current address, I would be grateful.]

Hello Chris,

Even though Greg and I live in the same city, we had some serious
disagreements during his time at LBO-talk and we would certainly have
disagreed on this issue.

My point was not to lionise free trade. The Venezuelan situation raises many
questions in my mind. I mean, for example, protectionism, like land reform,
is very far removed from a genuinely socialist/communist society, assuming
that _is_ what Chavez and the Bolivarians want to achieve. To me, the
reference to the early 19th C. USA is not enouraging, because even at best,
it seems to assume that protectionist strategies can (1) be detached from
the real, historical class relations in which they occurred and (2) used to
achieve a totally different kind of society.

If, in the short to medium term, the Bolivarians _do_ intend predominantly
state and/or worker owned enterprises, the development which protectionism
is supposed to nurture will still have a socially destructive
aspect/element, for which the Bolivarians will be blamed, even if they are
no longer in power, and even if they take steps to ameliorate the social
fallout.

In general, I disagree with what I call the quantity theory of socialism,
which to me was discredited by the Oil Shock, the stagflation which followed
and the neoliberal (counter)revolution. I mean, consider that in the early
1970s more than 50% of the workforce in some OECD states was in the public
sector! Some people thought it would creep onward and upward but they were
wrong. Of course things _can_ turn around quickly, but that level of state
ownership is at present unthinkable in any developed state.

And as Marx predicted, once industrialisation (e.g the establishment of
functioning ISI) is achieved, as far as the bourgeoisie is concerned,
protectionism has served it's purpose, can be dispensed with and the
Venezuelans, English, Australians or Filipinos are no closer to a society in
which the free development of the individual is the condition for the free
development of all.

regards,

Grant.


What we don't know about 9-11

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Zarembka
is nicely summarized at

http://xymphora.blogspot.com/

under the June 21 date.  (Didn't the space shuttle diasaster get a serious
investigation begin in within 2 hours!?)

Paul

***
Confronting 9-11, Ideologies of Race, and Eminent Economists, Vol. 20
RESEARCH IN POLITICAL ECONOMY,  Paul Zarembka, editor, Elsevier Science
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PZarembka


Re: Query from a Venezuelan (reply to Chris B.)

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Grant Lee:
My point was not to lionise free trade. The Venezuelan situation raises many
questions in my mind. I mean, for example, protectionism, like land reform,
is very far removed from a genuinely socialist/communist society, assuming
that _is_ what Chavez and the Bolivarians want to achieve. To me, the
reference to the early 19th C. USA is not enouraging, because even at best,
it seems to assume that protectionist strategies can (1) be detached from
the real, historical class relations in which they occurred and (2) used to
achieve a totally different kind of society.
Okay, let's talk about real, historical class relations. Chavez's social
base is the less privileged sectors of the working class, the peasantry
and the urban informal sector, not the big bourgeoisie which spearheaded
a general strike against him. Chavez has made it clear that he wants to
see oil profits used for social development rather than the enrichment
of upper management. The whole point of protectionism within the
Venezuelan context is to retain as much of the profits as possible, to
plow them back into the Venezuelan economy. If this is something that
Marxists can't identify with, then they need some re-education.
The Russian revolution of 1917 remains the purest expression of Marxist
politics since 1848, no matter what its postmodernist/Marxist detractors
in the academy have to say about it. As soon as the revolution triumph
and was in a position to aid revolutionary struggles around the world,
it made no distinction between purely socialist struggles and national
liberation struggles. In Session 4 of the Baku conference, which took
place in July 26, 1920 and was dramatized in Warren Beatty's Reds,
Lenin remarks, First, what is the cardinal idea underlying our theses?
It is the distinction between oppressed and oppressor NATIONS. He also
refers to delegate Quelch of the British Socialist Party who said that
the rank-and-file British worker would consider it treasonable to help
the enslaved NATIONS in their uprisings against British rule. (emphasis
added)
If, in the short to medium term, the Bolivarians _do_ intend predominantly
state and/or worker owned enterprises, the development which protectionism
is supposed to nurture will still have a socially destructive
aspect/element, for which the Bolivarians will be blamed, even if they are
no longer in power, and even if they take steps to ameliorate the social
fallout.
If this is so, you'd think that the American ruling class would
encourage Chavez, rather than using the NED and the CIA to overthrow
him. In fact, the USA has used every means within its disposal since the
Mexican revolution of Zapata and Pancho Villa (which actually predates
the Russian revolution) to crush attempts to control the wealth of a
nation for its own benefit--even when this is under the direction of a
substantial fraction of the bourgeoisie as was the case in Peron's
Argentina.
In general, I disagree with what I call the quantity theory of socialism,
which to me was discredited by the Oil Shock, the stagflation which followed
and the neoliberal (counter)revolution. I mean, consider that in the early
1970s more than 50% of the workforce in some OECD states was in the public
sector! Some people thought it would creep onward and upward but they were
wrong. Of course things _can_ turn around quickly, but that level of state
ownership is at present unthinkable in any developed state.
I have no idea what the fact that 50 percent of a workforce being in the
public sector has to do with socialism. Unless you address the
underlying class relations, it is a meaningless statistic. You had state
owned oil in Algeria, but this had nothing to do with socialism.
And as Marx predicted, once industrialisation (e.g the establishment of
functioning ISI) is achieved, as far as the bourgeoisie is concerned,
protectionism has served it's purpose, can be dispensed with and the
Venezuelans, English, Australians or Filipinos are no closer to a society in
which the free development of the individual is the condition for the free
development of all.
I can't understand why you would mix imperialist and imperialized
countries together as you do above. Well, maybe I can...
--

The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org


Marx on India

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
(LP: I will respond to this in a separate post.)

Hallo Louis,

we just recently came across your mail on Marxs writing on the British 
rule in India. On the background of ongoing discussions about a 
progressive imperialism we realized that quite a few former leftist 
scientists seemed to support their legitimisation of current allied wars 
with quotes from Marxs articles on India. With a due amount of distrust 
we set out to reconstruct Marxs texts. During our internet research we 
found your reply to Van Gosse. In discussing it we thought it 
interesting to get in touch with you, to argue about your view on Marxs 
writings. Because most statements on the NYDT articles seem to subdue 
them to the political opinions of the respective writers, we would like 
to strengthen a more material access. To our knowledge a critical 
reconstruction of the NYDT articles to date is not available. In the 
beginning we checked on the material, that Marx based his writings upon. 
In contrary to the statement, that Marx had only limited and outdated 
information on Indian society, a position you obviously agree with, we 
determined, that Marx had read most of the recently published books on 
India. His excerpts and some quotes in the articles show, that he had 
worked on:

Campbell, George; Modern India: A Sketch of the System of Civil 
Government, 1852

Chapman, John; The Cotton and Commerce of India, considered in Relation 
to the Interests of Great Britain; with remarks on Railway Communication 
in the Bombay Presidency, 1851

Dickson, John; The Government of India under a Bureaucracy, 1853

Mill, James; The history of British India, 1826 Murray, Hugh; Wilson, 
James; Historical and descriptive Account of British India etc., 
Edinburgh, 1832

MacCulloch, J.R.; The Literature of Political Economy, 1845 - (Source: 
footnotes from MECW Volume 12, No.127)

Klemm, Bernier, Saltykow, A.D.; letters sur lInde, 1848

These books are listed in the literature list of the German edition of 
MEW Volume 9. If the English MECW has not dropped scientific standards 
this list should be included there. In light of this, we tend to 
conclude, that the attempt to suggest Marx had no empirical basis has a 
political reason. A comparable misconception insists on a split up into 
a young, philosophical, unscientific Marx on one side and an older, 
materialistic, scientifically matured one on the other. To our knowledge 
there is no evidence to support such a separation. In the history of 
reception of Marxs writings it appears to be a means to discredit or 
ignore the political implications of his early writings and to insist on 
the necessity to add a lacking political sphere to his later works.

To describe Marxs view on British colonialism as enthusiasm is 
contradicted by his articles. You even quoted some of the passages 
yourself. If Marx was enthusiastic about anything, than it was changing 
conditions of the opportunity for something new. In you mail you state 
Marxs understanding was a need for capitalist transformation of all 
precapitalist social formations. That suggests a general view on 
historic development, that is independent from specific local economic 
and social conditions. But Marx has always linked his evaluations to 
specific conditions. It wasnt for no reason, that he explicitly limited 
his statements on the need for capitalist transformation to western 
Europe. Eastern European or Asian economic and social formations are 
treated differently.

I think we touched enough subjects to start a discussion. Attached you 
will find the version of your mail, that we worked with. Also you will 
find a German translation of your mail. Not all members of our group 
feel comfortable with original English versions due to a lack in 
language skills.

Hope to hear from you

Thomas Rathgeber Frankfurt am Main Germany
Erwiderung auf Van Gosse zu Indien
von Louis Proyect

15. Januar 2002

==

Van Gosse:

KollegInnen der H-RADHIST Liste, nehmt dies als Provokation.

Was sagt uns Marx (und verschiedene Marxisten seitdem) ber die 
Mglichkeiten eines fortschrittlichen Imperialismus? Marxens 
Kommentare zu Indien und der Britischen Raj sind ziemlich bekannt, aber 
ich habe sie in der letzten Zeit nicht wiedergelesen.

Aijaz Ahmad schrieb einen interessanten Artikel ber Marxens frhe 
Ansichten zu Indien (Marx on India: A Clarification), der in In 
Theory: Classes, Nations and Literatures erscheint. es war eine 
Erwiderung auf Edward Said's Polemiken gegen Marx in Orientalism. 
Ahmad's Hauptziel ist es den Kontext darzustellen in dem Marxens 
beilufige journalistische Stcke ber Indien erscheinen.

Bemerkenswerter weise scheinen diese frhen Marxtexte eine anziehende 
Wirkung auf nach rechts driftende sozialistische Intellektuelle wie Van 
Gosse zu haben, die sie als eine Art Untersttzung fr humanitre 
Intervention durch die westliche Zivilisation gegen den dreisten 
Barbaren sehen knnten. Hardt und Negri beziehen sich auch auf 

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Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Eugene Coyle
How about wheat, corn, soybeans, kilowatt-hours, cement, etc., etc.,
etc., etc.,etc., etc., etc., etc.
How about vitamins, graphite electrodes, lysine, citric acid, gas
turbines, large transformers?
Pharmacueticals are a good example. Buying your drugs from Canada? Even
the US Senate is thinking of allowing that.
Gene Coyle

Doug Henwood wrote:

Michael Perelman wrote:

exactly.

On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:03:27PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:

Well, in the information age all we have is low marginal costs
 and high fixed costs, is it not?


How many commodities does that apply to? There's software,
entertainment products, and...?
Doug



Re: Marx on India

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Thomas Rathgeber wrote:
In contrary to the statement, that Marx had only limited and outdated 
information on Indian society, a position you obviously agree with, we 
determined, that Marx had read most of the recently published books on 
India. His excerpts and some quotes in the articles show, that he had 
worked on:

Campbell, George; Modern India: A Sketch of the System of Civil 
Government, 1852

Chapman, John; The Cotton and Commerce of India, considered in Relation 
to the Interests of Great Britain; with remarks on Railway Communication 
in the Bombay Presidency, 1851

Dickson, John; The Government of India under a Bureaucracy, 1853

Mill, James; The history of British India, 1826 Murray, Hugh; Wilson, 
James; Historical and descriptive Account of British India etc., 
Edinburgh, 1832

MacCulloch, J.R.; The Literature of Political Economy, 1845 - (Source: 
footnotes from MECW Volume 12, No.127)
I am not sure whether these citations invalidate my claim that Marx was 
lacking the kind of information that would have prevented him from 
writing such obviously one-sided formulations:

We must not forget that this undignified, stagnatory, and vegetative 
life, that this passive sort of existence evoked on the other part, in 
contradistinction, wild, aimless, unbounded forces of destruction and 
rendered murder itself a religious rite in Hindostan. We must not forget 
that these little communities were contaminated by distinctions of caste 
and by slavery, that they subjugated man to external circumstances 
instead of elevating man the sovereign of circumstances, that they 
transformed a self-developing social state into never changing natural 
destiny, and thus brought about a brutalizing worship of nature, 
exhibiting its degradation in the fact that man, the sovereign of 
nature, fell down on his knees in adoration of Kanuman, the monkey, and 
Sabbala, the cow.

The British Rule in India, New-York Daily Tribune, June 25, 1853

After all, the above-cited J.R. MacCulloch was described by Marx in the 
Grundrisse as a 'past master in pretentious cretinism', 'at once the 
vulgarizer of Ricardian economics and the most pitiful image of its 
dissolution'.

As for James Mill, perhaps the less said the better. Well, maybe a few 
words are in order. Mill believed that India, China and Japan needed 
enlightenment and progress in the utilitarian sense. He states in The 
History of British India that even to Voltaire, a keen-eyed and 
sceptical judge, the Chinese, of almost all nations, are the objects of 
the loudest and most unqualified praise. The spread of European, and 
British in particular, rule would bring glorious results for the whole 
of Asia, described rather infelicitously as that vast proportion of the 
earth, which, even in its most favoured parts, has been in all ages 
condemned to semi-barbarism, and the miseries of despotic power.

When the question of independence for India came up, Mill argued, 
whatever may be our sense of the difficulties into which we have 
brought ourselves, by the improvident assumption of such a dominion, we 
earnestly hope, for the sake of the natives, that it will not be found 
necessary to leave them to their own direction.

Not to belabor the point, it seems that all that was wrong in Marx's 
Tribune articles on India was a function of reading nonsense like this. 
Years later, especially in an aside with the Russian Danielson, Marx 
dispensed with any notions of Great Britain's civilizing mission in 
India, and simply described it--accurately--as thievery.

To describe Marxs view on British colonialism as enthusiasm is 
contradicted by his articles. You even quoted some of the passages 
yourself. If Marx was enthusiastic about anything, than it was changing 
conditions of the opportunity for something new. 
But that's the problem. His enthusiasm for railroads, telegraphs, etc. 
was a reflection of an inadequate understanding of how and why they 
would be used in a place like India or Argentina, for that matter. Here 
is what Frederic Clairmont wrote in The Rise and Fall of Economic 
Liberalism, The Other India Press, Goa, India, 1995). It tends to 
deflate the sort of expectations that were found in the Tribune articles:

It is one of the banalities of liberal economic thought to consider 
private international foreign investments as a polarizing agent in the 
industrialization process of the recipient country; but the illusion 
that foreign investment in railways would, under all conditions, usher 
in a new period of industrialization was also shared by the founders of 
Marxism. In one of his letters to Engels, Marx maintained that the 
British conquest of India should be seen as part of a historically 
progressive force, and that the British occupant was the unconscious 
tool of history.

England, it is true, in causing a social revolution in Hindustan, was 
actuated only by the vilest interests, and was stupid in her manner of 
enforcing them. But that is not the 

Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
There is another tweak to the idea.  In some cases, modern information
technology has reduced the marginal cost of some superficial forms of
variety.  So, for example, it magazines can print something personalized
for you in their advertisements or automobile companies can vary the color
scheme on new cars.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:25:51AM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
 Michael Perelman wrote:

 exactly.
 
 On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:03:27PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
 
   Well, in the information age all we have is low marginal costs
and high fixed costs, is it not?

 How many commodities does that apply to? There's software,
 entertainment products, and...?

 Doug

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Ashcroft wants to reach out to the people

2003-06-23 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Re: Ashcroft wants to reach out to the
people



Further, they reveal
that angels have been declared an endagered
species.

Horrors! Not that many Bin Ladens can dance on the head of
a pin.

Dan Scanlan




Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] market competition fails again





Is there empirical evidence that the problem of low marginal costs and high fixed costs is so important to the economy that it changes the over-all dynamics of the economy?

BTW, I hope no-one is trying to reduce _all_ of the problems of the capitalist market to this single problem. There are lots of other reasons to expect competitive markets to fail, e.g., externalities and adverse selection. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine





 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] market competition fails again
 
 
 There is another tweak to the idea. In some cases, modern information
 technology has reduced the marginal cost of some superficial forms of
 variety. So, for example, it magazines can print something 
 personalized
 for you in their advertisements or automobile companies can 
 vary the color
 scheme on new cars.
 
 On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:25:51AM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
  Michael Perelman wrote:
 
  exactly.
  
  On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:03:27PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
  
   Well, in the information age all we have is low marginal costs
and high fixed costs, is it not?
 
  How many commodities does that apply to? There's software,
  entertainment products, and...?
 
  Doug
 
 --
 Michael Perelman
 Economics Department
 California State University
 Chico, CA 95929
 
 Tel. 530-898-5321
 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 





Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Jim, you are absolutely correct on both counts.  I tried to make that
point in my much-maligned book, The Natural Instability of Markets.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:10:12AM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
 Is there empirical evidence that the problem of low marginal costs and high
 fixed costs is so important to the economy that it changes the over-all
 dynamics of the economy?

 BTW, I hope no-one is trying to reduce _all_ of the problems of the
 capitalist market to this single problem. There are lots of other reasons to
 expect competitive markets to fail, e.g., externalities and adverse
 selection.

 
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine




  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:07 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: [PEN-L] market competition fails again
 
 
  There is another tweak to the idea.  In some cases, modern information
  technology has reduced the marginal cost of some superficial forms of
  variety.  So, for example, it magazines can print something
  personalized
  for you in their advertisements or automobile companies can
  vary the color
  scheme on new cars.
 
  On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:25:51AM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
   Michael Perelman wrote:
  
   exactly.
   
   On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:03:27PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
   
 Well, in the information age all we have is low marginal costs
  and high fixed costs, is it not?
  
   How many commodities does that apply to? There's software,
   entertainment products, and...?
  
   Doug
 
  --
  Michael Perelman
  Economics Department
  California State University
  Chico, CA 95929
 
  Tel. 530-898-5321
  E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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IMF: evict Argentians now

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, June 23,2003

The Homes of Argentines Are at Risk in I.M.F. Talks
By LARRY ROHTER
BUENOS AIRES, June 22  After a decade as renters, Ariel and Norma 
Brofman were finally able to buy a small house here four years ago. But 
if the Argentine government yields to International Monetary Fund 
pressure to rescind emergency legislation meant to protect ordinary 
families like the Brofmans, the couple stand to lose their home and the 
$32,000 they have paid for it so far.

Like other middle-class Argentines, the Brofmans, whose household 
includes their two daughters, aged 9 and 13, and their widowed mothers, 
were severely battered by the collapse of the economy here last year. In 
just a few months, Mr. Brofman lost his job as an electronics 
technician, exhausted his scant savings and fell behind on the monthly 
$555 mortgage payment on their two-bedroom, 1,000-square-foot house.

We did not create this situation, said Mr. Brofman, 38, who now tries 
to make ends meet by repairing cellular telephones. The rules of the 
game were changed on us from one day to the next, and we were hoping the 
government would take steps to defend us until this country is back on 
its feet and we can begin paying again.

So nearly a year ago, at the peak of the crisis, the Argentine Congress 
approved a bill that suspended mortgage foreclosures for 90 days on 
homes that were a family's sole and permanent residence. That law has 
since been renewed three times, but will expire in August unless 
Congress extends it again.

It has, however, brought the Argentine government into conflict with the 
I.M.F., whose managing director, Horst Kohler, is scheduled to arrive 
here Monday for a two-day visit. Though Argentina now has a budget 
surplus and has taken numerous other steps urged by the I.M.F., 
government officials say that the fund is insisting that the freeze on 
foreclosures be lifted as a pre-condition for any comprehensive agreement.

full: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/23/international/americas/23ARGE.html

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FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan





Chris Burford writes:
The so-called free trade of the present period is no more than
international capital giving itself the freedom to price fix unhindered,
the freedom to exercise its plans without let, the freedom to use one
group of workers to compete against another on a world scale.
There is a historically progressive side to this and abstract opposition
or support is niether here nor there. 


that's right. It's important to distinguish free trade in theory (the general lowering of tariffs and quotas on imports and the end of export subsidies) and what it usually means in practice (free movement of capital but usually not labor, the imposition of US-style intellectual property rights on the world, partial lowering of trade barriers (only by those countries with less political-economic clout), etc.)

For those who want a critique of free trade in theory, see Ravi Batra's THE MYTH OF FREE TRADE. As usual with his popular writings, he's quite over the top, but he does present an alternative for a big country such as the US or a Latin American free trade zone: protection from international competition _plus_ encouraging competition within the protected area. Such a system would be (1) conservative of current social arrangements and (2) promoting the bourgeoisie inside the protected area, as Marx points out.

Of course, in the establishment of a Latin American Free Trade Zone would be quite destructive of current social arrangements (even excluding the US from the mix).

Jim





WMD's/FCC

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Magazine, June 30, 2003
This Media Life
WMD, FCC  Tina

Theres a reason big media has given Bush a pass on weapons of mass 
destruction, but it has to do with a Powell other than Colin. Plus: I 
love Tina Brown (really!).

By Michael Wolff

Im going to follow a thread linking the weapons of mass destruction to 
the FCCs move to relax the media-ownership rules, andtrust methrough 
to Tina Brown.

First, the weapons: The Bush guys obviously played Saddam for a fool. He 
wanted to have those weapons. He was a broken man without them. The 
Bushies, by their wild accusations, conceded to him the very illusion of 
power that they knew he would happily and fiercely cling to and that 
they could then set out with appropriate fervor to protect us from and 
to take away from him.

Saddam had a get-out-of-jail-free card: He just had to reveal to the 
world that he was bereft of resources, spent as a force, bankrupt as a 
ruler. But Rummy and Wolfowitz and Perle, and everybody else in the Bush 
administration who has been obsessing about Saddam for fifteen years, 
understood that it would be at least as difficult for him to admit to 
not having such power as to get tarred for having it.

He needed to appear threatening. We needed him to appear threatening.

We needed him to dissemble. He needed to dissemble.

Everybody was party to the creation of an alternateand, likely, 
entirely falsereality.

There was even a neat moral justification for letting Saddam hang 
himself: While the Bush people surely had an extensive understanding of 
the truly dismal nature of the Iraqi military resources, Saddams 
squirreliness allowed them to maintain an iota of less-than-absolute 
certainty (and then, of course, Wolfowitz and company couldnt help 
throwing in a little bogus intelligence). Indeed, North Korea, 
threatening to blow up the world in the middle of this, turned out to be 
helpful. Here was a down-on-its-luck regime apparently producing serious 
offensive weaponsso it could happen. (But since we werent running to 
the barricades on this, it probably meant that the weapons produced by a 
down-on-its-luck regime were of limited usefulness; or, on the other 
hand, it means that if we do really fear that a rogue regime has them, 
we tread carefully.)

Even in the aftermath of the warwhere looking for the weapons has 
become something of a Monty Python routinethe Potemkin-village logic 
continues:

If we cant find them, they still must be hereor they must have been 
herebecause Saddam could have avoided all this if he had just admitted 
he didnt have them (and while he did say he didnt have them, he didnt 
say it as convincingly as he would have said it if he really didnt have 
them).

The logic of the war is the logic of the Jesuitical-style arguments 
popular on right-wing television and radio. Its been war by syllogism.

We settledand continue to settlefor an abstract deduction over actual 
proof.

Still, this deduction was not so ironclad, or brilliant, or irrefutable, 
that it could not beindeed, it has beendisassembled.

And yet this low-rent logic remains, in the public mind, largely 
unassailable, because nobodycertainly not with any concerted 
attentionhas assailed it.

Why not? It was a setup. A ruse. A cheat. Hello?

How come the Bushies are getting away with it? Sheesh.

Now the FCC:

Every news organization from CNN to Fox to the networks to the big 
newspaper chains to the New York Times (although, heroically, not the 
Washington Post) was eagerly petitioning the Bush FCC (led by the 
secretary of States son, Michael Powell) for the freedom to 
substantially alter the economics of the news business. And as the war 
got under way, everybody knew the decision would come soon after the war 
ended.

Its important to understand how much this FCC ruling means to these 
companies. News (especially old-fashioned headline news) is a sick 
business, if not a dying game. For newspaper companies, the goal is to 
get out of the newspaper business and into the television business 
(under the old rules, its a no-no to own newspapers and television 
stations in the same market). For networks with big news operations, the 
goal is to buy more stations, which is where the real cash flows from. 
The whole point here is to move away from news, to downgrade it, to 
amortize it, to minimize it.

full: 
http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/media/columns/medialife/n_8880/

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Re: Complexity

2003-06-23 Thread Les Schaffer
Sabri wrote:

 That must be the Marsden effect. He has a tendency to put people to
 sleep.

i've seen him give talks, and he's a fine, dynamic speaker. But this
literary trend he is a part of is a dead end.

 I have one of his books with Hughes from 1976, A short course in
 fluid mechanics and it goes Lemma, Lemma, Theorem, Lemma, Theorem,
 Theorem, Theorem, so forth.

it would be interesting to compare this, for example, to Arnold's work
on fluid stability. The Soviets tend to be much more down to earth on
this stuff.

tho i will say the commutative diagrams look splendid in the
Abraham/Marsden/Ratiu book.

 One wonders what kind of fluid mechanics is that.

*!)#*!)@!!!

 I view him more of a painter than a mathematician. His papers and
 books always look very beautiful

i love a nice looking piece of math, in fact i tend to get it only if
i can see the artwork effort which went into creating it.  but somehow
a whole section of the topology/nonlinear-dynamics expository writing
falls flat on this score. and it should be just the opposiite: a
global, geometric way of viewing dynamics ought to feel right to the
eyes almost effortlessly.

Marsden's Elementary Classical Analysis is a fine book in the
Proposition/Lemma/Proof category. but it doesnt pretend to be anything
other than an undergrad math text in analysis.

ultimately, it comes down to this, does the dry terse
proposition/proof/lemma style of the manifolds/topology stuff add
anything worthwhile to nonlinear dynamics work? for me, no. it adds
instead to the hype aspect of the subject, because it adds interesting
looking headlines without any insight attached. (and Marsden has QUITE
A BIT of insight into dynamics).

les


Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread David S. Shemano
Michael Perelman writes:

 very interesting, but this sort of crap did not interest the right wing
 when Blacks were moved out.

Give me a break.  It wasn't the right-wing that supported urban renewal in the 
post-WWII era.  A staple of conservative book lists used to be The Federal Bulldozer: 
A Critical Analysis of Urban Renewal 1949-62, written in 1964 by Martin Anderson, who 
was later one of Reagan's domestic policy advisors.

The Institute for Justice is a great organization -- I know several of the attorneys 
personally and have given serious consideration to working for/with them.  They are 
the primary litigators on behalf of school choice.  Interestingly, most of their 
clients are Black, whether in eminent domain cases, occupational licensing cases, 
etc., presumably because they are more symphathetic plaintiffs and it makes it harder 
for the defendants to demonize.  One of their more famous cases involved a Black 
property owner who Atlantic City wanted to boot so Donald Trump could build a parking 
lot.

David Shemano


Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Bill Lear
On Monday, June 23, 2003 at 10:34:16 (-0700) Devine, James writes:
...
that's right. It's important to distinguish free trade in theory (the
general lowering of tariffs and quotas on imports and the end of export
subsidies) and what it usually means in practice (free movement of capital
but usually not labor, the imposition of US-style intellectual property
rights on the world, partial lowering of trade barriers (only by those
countries with less political-economic clout), etc.)

For those who want a critique of free trade in theory, see ...

Not to be forgotten is what one might term the historical aspect of
so-called free trade policies.  They tend to be pushed by powerful
nations who have a history of fiercely protecting domestic industry
until it can prevail in international markets.  England, Germany, and
the U.S. are among many cases in point.  An older critique is, of
course, Friedrich List, *The National System of Political Economy*,
funded in part (if I remember correctly) by Pennsylvania steel
interests.


Bill


Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] property rights





David is partly right. The liberals often used eminent domain for social engineering. 


For example, the Chavez Ravine communities (populated almost entirely by Mexican-Americans) in Los Angeles were torn down as part of the urban renewal project flowing out of the New Deal. The promise was that the displaced people would get (wonderful) public housing.

But after the communities were torn down, the conservatives -- often citing free market theories -- blasted the project as socialism and its sponsors as Reds. This successfully blocked the housing projects. 

So, in the end, the Chavez Ravine was turned over to the Dodgers, who built a stadium there (while gaining the undying emnity of Brooklyn). No housing was ever built. 

The conservatives prefer social engineering involving free markets (in theory) and subsidizing business (in practice). Outfits such as the Institute for Justice emphasize the theory, while the conservatives in power use it as a cover for the practice.


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 -Original Message-
 From: David S. Shemano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [PEN-L] property rights
 
 
 Michael Perelman writes:
 
  very interesting, but this sort of crap did not interest 
 the right wing
  when Blacks were moved out.
 
 Give me a break. It wasn't the right-wing that supported 
 urban renewal in the post-WWII era. A staple of 
 conservative book lists used to be The Federal Bulldozer: A 
 Critical Analysis of Urban Renewal 1949-62, written in 1964 
 by Martin Anderson, who was later one of Reagan's domestic 
 policy advisors.
 
 The Institute for Justice is a great organization -- I know 
 several of the attorneys personally and have given serious 
 consideration to working for/with them. They are the primary 
 litigators on behalf of school choice. Interestingly, most 
 of their clients are Black, whether in eminent domain cases, 
 occupational licensing cases, etc., presumably because they 
 are more symphathetic plaintiffs and it makes it harder for 
 the defendants to demonize. One of their more famous cases 
 involved a Black property owner who Atlantic City wanted to 
 boot so Donald Trump could build a parking lot.
 
 David Shemano
 





Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
 Chris Burford writes:
 The so-called free trade of the present period is no more than
 international capital giving itself the freedom to price fix unhindered,
 the freedom to exercise its plans without let, the freedom to use one
 group of workers to compete against another on a world scale.
 There is a historically progressive side to this and abstract opposition
 or support is niether here nor there.

===

I would simply add that it is not so much international capital giving itself freedom, 
but the enormous commodification of
international law in order to trump law-policy making in a whole host of settings by 
nation-states. As Susan Sell points out
in a forthcoming book that expands on an essay she wrote a couple of years ago, the 
TRIPS agreement was designed by the
CEO's-legal staff of 12 US corps., handed to the US negotiators as they went to Punta 
del Este, given the free riding
blessing of Japanese and European corps. and then rammed down the throats of the 
world's peoples. It is this kind of behavior
that calls for making methodological nationalism -as one of the main assumptions 
behind free trade arguments- a much more
problematized concept than has hitherto been explored in political economy and 
international relations theory.


Ian


Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan





I wanted to add a point: back in the 19th century, Germany and the US were able to successfully use tariffs to promote national economic development. But part of this success was the relatively small technological gap between them and the market hegemon, England. With a little bit of help from tariffs, they were able to imitate England, catch up, and move ahead. But isn't the technological gap much larger nowadays? doesn't the whole intellectual property campaign aim to keep the tech gap as wide as possible, if not widen it?

In addition, we should remember that Germany's tariff-based development was one (perhaps minor) source of the inter-national rivalry that set up the conditions for World War I.

Jim



I wrote:
 ...
 that's right. It's important to distinguish free trade in 
 theory (the
 general lowering of tariffs and quotas on imports and the 
 end of export
 subsidies) and what it usually means in practice (free 
 movement of capital
 but usually not labor, the imposition of US-style 
 intellectual property
 rights on the world, partial lowering of trade barriers 
 (only by those
 countries with less political-economic clout), etc.)
 
 For those who want a critique of free trade in theory, see ...


Bill: 
 Not to be forgotten is what one might term the historical aspect of
 so-called free trade policies. They tend to be pushed by powerful
 nations who have a history of fiercely protecting domestic industry
 until it can prevail in international markets. England, Germany, and
 the U.S. are among many cases in point. An older critique is, of
 course, Friedrich List, *The National System of Political Economy*,
 funded in part (if I remember correctly) by Pennsylvania steel
 interests.





Re: IMF: evict Argentinians now

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
On evictions in Argentina.

Larry Rothers Brofmans (and many thousands like them) will not be 
seriously menaced before the last turn of elections, this year, takes place.

Same can be said of the jeopardized owners of millions of hectares of 
land who were so indebted that their situation does not get better even 
after the extraordinary revenues they are getting through a rise in the 
foreign currency exchange rates which brought the dollar from one peso 
to more or less 3 pesos (most Argentinean agricultural produce is sold 
overseas, quite interesting for a country where people suffer 
Kwashiorkor and other food-deprivation related ailments).

Bankrupted or defaulting debtors with the Banco Nacin (state-owned,
providing most if not all credit for agricultural production), in
particular, number hundreds of thousands. That is why the IMF also 
claims that the Banco Nacin be privatized. If it falls into private 
hands, a wave of evictions will further decrease the numbers of 
agricultural holdings in Argentina, which dwindled from some 430,000 to 
320,000 in 14 years, particularly between 1991 and 2001.

Once the elections are over, Kirchner will have free hand to strike the 
deal that the imperialists are dreaming of. Will he? Wont he? This is 
exactly what haunts the Brofmans and their similars.

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Re: IMF: evict Argentinians now

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Louis Proyect wrote:
On evictions in Argentina.

This was from Nestor Gorojovsky, btw. As was probably obvious.

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Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
More hyperbolic shazbot from Business 2.0.

The ad itself is interesting as actual art -- kind of the old game
Mousetrap meets the Art Gallery of Ontario -- funded by an auto
manufacturer. (www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,50151,00.html)

As actual advertising, it is another familiar novelty.

It's repeating the same process of novelty that has existed from day one
involving the Internet as a medium.

It's no different than 1995's thrills at watching a web cam broadcast of
a fish tank or coffee machine in some university comp sci department
somewhere. (People actually viewed those things back then.)

Sure, you have fun showing it to your friends when it is new and there
are not so many of them. (This is the point in the cycle of
consumption that advertising people get excited.)

But, gain, once there are more, the share of that interest that the
provider of these things gains in response shrinks -- until the
over-abundance them these things results in the viewer/consumer
eventually finding it annoying and resorting to evasion of ad intrusion.

The only viable form of advertising in a true multiplex of media is
sponsorship. Own the event -- like, oh, say, a school department.

(For instance, vote for Ian Murray as the Boeing Professor of
Public-Private Partnerships in Local Economics. Give him a $150,000
annual expense account and string of Mini Coopers for his children and
relatives. Something like that. Then you can't separate the ad/branding
from the product/content.)

Ken.

--
Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when
you have forgotten your aim.
  -- George Santayana


--- cut here ---

Downloading the Future of TV Advertising

By John Battelle
Business 2.0
July 2003 Issue


Through the simple act of releasing a remarkable television commercial
onto the Web, the U.K. wing of automobile giant Honda (HMC) has
unleashed something of a typhoon in the advertising business. Though it
has yet to fully play out, Honda's ad proves the value of content and
could stand as a turning point in the history of the television spot --
proof that interactivity won't kill television advertising, as many are
now predicting, but may instead be instrumental in saving it.

In April 2003, Honda U.K. debuted an extraordinary two-minute television
advertisement called Cog.

Back in April, Honda U.K. debuted an extraordinary two-minute television
advertisement called Cog. Aired only in the United Kingdom, the
film -- and that really is the best term for it -- is a Rube Goldbergian
ballet, a synchronized dance of 86 distinct parts from a Honda Accord
that roll, pirouette, and fly along the floor in a mesmerizing
production of meticulously intended consequence. The spot begins with a
sequence of three cogs rolling along a plank; one falls to the floor,
and a cam shaft rolls, setting an exhaust tube slowly spinning, which
knocks three precisely placed grommets down the slope of a hood, and so
on. (Download the ad for yourself at Honda UK.)

To watch this film is to want to watch it again, which is what I did,
repeatedly, after a friend e-mailed me the link. Not only was the work
beautiful, but it was advertising -- it functioned in ways that
television ads simply weren't intended to function.

Cog made me think well of Honda, so the branding was effective. But
more interesting was the way I came across it -- through word of
mouth -- and the expectations I brought as I downloaded it: I was taking
the action to view the message; it was my intent that drove the
transaction. This ad was content I wanted, not a sales message I wished
to ignore. The experience was peculiar -- this isn't how advertising
models for television are supposed to work.

But work it has. Since the film made its debut on British television in
April, Honda U.K. has been besieged by repeat viewers. As was its
custom, Honda had already put the ad on its site; it was instantly
blogged and Slashdotted. Every major paper in the United Kingdom wrote
it up, noting its painstakingly analog production (filming required more
than 600 takes) and unusual length. Traffic to the Honda site
quadrupled; in the first few weeks, nearly 1 million people downloaded
the film. By mid-May, the number was twice that -- and millions more, no
doubt, have seen the film as an e-mail attachment. The Honda marketing
folks are clearly tickled by the response. We think this campaign has
managed to reposition Honda more toward the quality and sophistication
of the European makers, says Nigel Bobs, a marketing executive at Honda
U.K. We certainly had no idea it would take off like this.

Cog reminds us of the power of great content, and it may well shift
the tired debate regarding what many marketers deride as vanity ads,
which capture awards rather than results. It proves that great content
can be combined with intent-based marketing like direct mail or paid
search. Imagine a film like Cog as the payoff to clicking a paid link
for Honda or buy car on Google. Or as a 

Auto-insurance monopoly and interest-free premium advances

2003-06-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Car insurance signs clear: bumpy road ahead
Complex reasons for rising rates

THOMAS WALKOM
Toronto Star
June 21 2003


Ontario's auto insurance system doesn't work. After three governments
and almost 15 years of tinkering, that's the sad reality.

The obvious problems are well known. Premiums are shooting up and
companies are getting stickier about renewing policies. The average
Ontario driver pays about 20 per cent more in auto premiums than he did
last year.

But the more troubling figure is the growing number of drivers refused
policies by the province's 164 car insurers. These people — and there
are roughly 80,000 of them now — have been forced into the so-called
Facility Association, an insurer of last resort that is owned by the
private firms and which charges considerably higher rates.

Last year, according to association head Dave Simpson, there were only
about 20,000 drivers signed on with the Facility.

For the government, this should be the canary in the coal mine, the
early-warning signal that something is wrong. The Facility is supposed
to insure only the very worst drivers in the province, those whose
accident record is so bad that no sensible person would cover them.

But when relatively good drivers find themselves forced to pay
Facility-style rates, politicians know they are in for a pasting.

Some of the problems in the Ontario system are endemic to insurance. In
essence, insurance is a kind of legalized pyramid scheme: The insurer
agrees to cover all his policyholders if they have car accidents, but
he's betting that only a small number will be making claims at any one
time.

If the cost of servicing those claims rises unexpectedly, the insurer is
forced to find the money to cover his bets — either by raising premiums
or refusing to write policies.

Insurers say that's what is happening in Ontario. They complain that the
benefits they are shelling out to accident victims — particularly for
so-called soft-tissue injuries such as whiplash — are out of control.

George Cooke, president of Dominion of Canada General Insurance Co.,
cites one comparison the industry likes to use: In 1992, insurers paid
out $380 million for rehabilitation and assessment to car-accident
victims; by 2002, that number had climbed to $1.5 billion.

The other endemic problem involves the stock and bond markets. Insurers
don't simply stick their customers' premiums under the mattress. They
invest them and either keep the profits or use them to cover some of
their claims costs.

The amounts involved are not trivial. The Insurance Bureau of Canada,
the private industry's trade association, reports that Canadian property
and casualty firms (which write auto policies) made $2.2 billion from
investments in 2002 — money they used to cover the $1.4 billion they
lost on underwriting.

Insurers like to say that they are subsidizing customers' rates when
they do this. In fact, a good case can be made that customers are
subsidizing insurers by allowing them to use their premium money
interest-free.

In any case, when the bond and stock markets falter — as they have over
the past two years — insurers try to compensate by raising the rates
they charge customers. In 2002, according to the Insurance Bureau,
investment income to property and casualty firms dropped by almost 20
per cent.

No wonder then that they responded by raising rates to car drivers by
about the same percentage.

But the other, more telling, problems with the Ontario system are more
specific to this province. Ironically, one is the industry's very
competitiveness.

There are 164 firms selling auto policies in Ontario. In good times,
they compete furiously to lower rates. In bad times, they compete
furiously to raise them.

The result is a rate instability that many drivers find maddening.

Recent history illustrates this. In 1996, Ontario's economy was
rebounding from recession. Stock markets were up, which meant insurers
were flush with cash.

At the same time, the newly elected government of then-premier Mike
Harris had just passed a new law that reduced benefits to car accident
victims.

Insurers scrambled to get customers. The key for many was to gain access
to that interest-free premium money that they could then invest
profitably in financial markets. And so, with costs down and potential
revenues up, they cut premiums.

According to Ontario's finance ministry, average premium costs in
Ontario fell steadily, from $1,019 in 1996 to $918 in 2000. After that,
they started to climb again until, by 2002, according to the
government's Financial Services Commission of Ontario, rates were back
at 1996 levels.

Or, to put it another way, over the last seven years, auto insurance
premium increases have averaged less than 3 per cent annually.

If all drivers had experienced this, they might be more understanding.
But averages do not take into account individual reality. Over seven
years, people's circumstances change; they move (which may affect their
rates) or buy 

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Burford

At 2003-06-23 11:05 -0700, Jim Devine wrote:

I wanted to add a point: back in
the 19th century, Germany and the US were able to successfully use
tariffs to promote national economic development. But part of this
success was the relatively small technological gap between them and the
market hegemon, England. With a little bit of help from tariffs, they
were able to imitate England, catch up, and move ahead. But isn't the
technological gap much larger nowadays? doesn't the whole intellectual
property campaign aim to keep the tech gap as wide as possible, if not
widen it?

I think this is an important point which affects how we analyse
imperialism, let alone defeat it. I do not know how you measure this gap,
but roughly speaking the difference in wage rates for manual labour
between rich and poor countries is now of the order of 30 times. Yes
previous civilisations and cultures accumulated great wealth in the
privileged classes, but such a difference in the price of labour
power, is unprecedented in human history.

My personal view is that the difference in the technological gap, is so
great that the relative surplus value that derives from this has become a
major source of unequal exchange in the world. It has replaced the coupon
clipping which was the dominant mode of imperialist superprofits at the
time Lenin wrote.

I have no doubt that the imperialist and hegemonic forces intend to widen
the gap, as you suggest, while talking disingenuously about spreading the
benefits of free trade to people who have little to sell but their labour
power and their natural resources.

Chris Burford
London




EU v NA -- Hegel and frontiers

2003-06-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
As to the recent multilateralist tensions...

Is there some deeply entrenched reason that North America and Europe
(whether the UK ever decides to be in that or not) have different
reactions to world events -- including socialist ideas?

Maybe a burn out factor, to use a colloquial term?

For instance -- in some recent research, BMW clearly stands ahead of NA
car companies in trying to find a viable hydrogen car. The
explanations of this from the auto makers themselves is humorous PR
spin.

One non-corporate source put it that Germany (and Europe) has given its
auto-industry a helping hand in that it sets up things like take
back systems. BMW will have to dispose of all those dead cars. So BMW
is given incentive to reduce the cost of that. Hence, BMW (in this
limited sense) has more money in RD and may have a much stronger
position in the market for cars in a decade (it says a few thousand
hydrogen cars will be in production in 6-7 years).

It reminded me of something I'd read long time ago... Hegel's dismissing
of North America as a serious source of social development until it ran
out of frontiers -- which can mean many things, including the crass
ability to let Ford dump dead cars in a badlands ditch.

(Hegel used his more typical formulations, talking about the USA being
spiritually feeble and outside world history -- and the French
Revolution only happened because France didn't have a wild west to
drain off discontent and mismanagement. Had Germany been a frontier, the
pissed off French elements would have crossed the Rhine and built log
cabins and the pressure would subside. But since Europe has fewer
resources and land to use, it has had to address human political
problems much more immediately. I am clearly paraphrasing here.)

The basic idea -- denuded of Hegelian flourishes -- always seemed a
better explanation for why NA has had less viable socialist-ic parties.

I have heard self-proclaimed American Maoists dismiss the entire
western working class as decadent -- in other words, their behavior is
simply the result of over-consumption. I've also heard some blame mass
media. I've heard blame labor bosses for collusion. (There are lots of
these theories, and they are usually spouted in an angry-frustrated
manner; however, when stripped of outrage, each has a degree of truth,
I suppose.)

I found that Hegel observation interesting... and wrote it down in my
books of quotes and, upon researching BMW, thought of it again...


Ken.

--
A pallid outline for the real world’s richness.
  -- William James
 On over-intellectualism


Re: Complexity

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Les:

 i love a nice looking piece of math, in fact i tend
 to get it only if i can see the artwork effort which
 went into creating it.

Between you and I, me too. Not only that, I pay great attention
to make my mathematics writing look beautiful. Unlike most people
believe, mathematics is not about numbers at all. It is about
patterns and structures.

I heard him speak a few times as well, once on dynamic stability,
and he made the topic so easy to understand that I couldn't
believe that he is the same person who wrote those papers. I am
familiar with his early work, until the late 1980s, in mechanics
and don't know what he did after that, but the area in which he
was working prior to 1990s died. Not that there is nothing left
to do in there but that what is left is very difficult for anyone
to attack, and more importantly, doesn't sell any more.

I like Marsden though. A very smart guy.

Best,

Sabri


Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
David, I don't know what sort of break you want.  I doubt that anyone here
supported the old Urban Renewal programs.  I always heard them referred to
as Negro Removal.  If you mean that they were Great Society programs they
were, but I think that all of us viewed them [those programs] with
contempt.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 10:52:14AM -0700, David S. Shemano wrote:
 Michael Perelman writes:

  very interesting, but this sort of crap did not interest the right wing
  when Blacks were moved out.

 Give me a break.  It wasn't the right-wing that supported urban renewal in the 
 post-WWII era.  A staple of conservative book lists used to be The Federal 
 Bulldozer: A Critical Analysis of Urban Renewal 1949-62, written in 1964 by Martin 
 Anderson, who was later one of Reagan's domestic policy advisors.

 The Institute for Justice is a great organization -- I know several of the attorneys 
 personally and have given serious consideration to working for/with them.  They are 
 the primary litigators on behalf of school choice.  Interestingly, most of their 
 clients are Black, whether in eminent domain cases, occupational licensing cases, 
 etc., presumably because they are more symphathetic plaintiffs and it makes it 
 harder for the defendants to demonize.  One of their more famous cases involved a 
 Black property owner who Atlantic City wanted to boot so Donald Trump could build a 
 parking lot.

 David Shemano

--
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

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Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread David S. Shemano
Michael Perelman writes:

 David, I don't know what sort of break you want.  I doubt that anyone here
 supported the old Urban Renewal programs.  I always heard them referred to
 as Negro Removal.  If you mean that they were Great Society programs they
 were, but I think that all of us viewed them [those programs] with
 contempt.

To paraphrase, you stated that the right wing did not care about the use of eminent 
domain to replace homes with commercial development when it was the homes of Blacks 
that were being taken, as opposed to now, when it is apparently the homes of Whites 
that are being taken.  I am simply pointing out that there is no evidence that the 
opinion of the right wing, taken as a whole, is/was racially motivated, and the right 
has been consistent on the policy for over 40 years.

David Shemano


FW: From New Zealand to Iraq; a reflection on Bremer's theory

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: From New Zealand to Iraq; a reflection on Bremer's theory





[I wonder: what happened to the balance of political power in NZ that pushed and allowed Rogernomics? -- Jim]


From: Jurriaan Bendien


Bremer was quoted as saying:


A fundamental component of this process will be to force state-owned
enterprises to face hard budget constraints by reducing subsidies and
special deals, he said. Iraq will no doubt find that opening its
borders to trade and investment will increase competitive pressure on its
domestic firms and thereby raise productivity.


I had to think, hell, this sounds just like Finance Minister Roger
Douglas used to talk in New Zealand in the second half of the 1980s.
Remember what happened ? Well, the Labour government went on a spree
of privatisations, government restructuring and deregulation that was
the envy of the neoliberals in the Western world for a while. In fact
it was a bit like Chile without a military coup. Hosannahs were sung
about the daring policies of the NZ government, and NZ was supposed to
be the model for how to reconstruct an economy. For a while anyway,
later OECD economists retreated from their earlier enthusiasm and said
things had happened a bit too fast, a bit too radically - they were
worried about social coherence and social capital and suchlike.
Actually, proportionally, approximately as many New Zealand residents
went overseas, as left East Germany after the falling of the Berlin
wall. I do not have the figures handy here, but there's got to be
something like 300,000 kiwis in Australia by now.


I just came across an old paper written by a now deceased comrade of
mine, the trade unionist and socialist Geoff Pearce, in 1996 called
Rodgering the economy: the downside of the New Zealand model, which
was a critique of consultant capitalism. Consultancy was a really
lucrative business in New Zealand in the later 1980s, because the
government didn't actually have the in-house expertise to sell off
public assets etc. For example, they would want to sell off half a
million hectares of state forest, but nobody could say what the forest
was worth. That is what you had consultants for.


To cut a long story short, Pearce examines what happened to the New
Zealand economy. Well, in 1992/1993, economic growth shot up to almost
8 percent, and the economists were saying hurrah and there was a lot
of euforia. But by December 1995 it was about 2 percent,
conventionally measured, and after that there was no real growth
anymore; currently, there's just very weak economic growth.


The OECD actually claimed that the average annual increase in
productivity, using conventional measures, went from 0.9 percent in
1975/1984 to 0.5 percent in 1991/1996. The consultants claimed that
liberalisation had produced over 200,000 new jobs, but, between 1991
and 1996 over 165,000 jobs were lost. Sure, there was a slight net
gain in jobs, but it was more like people were forced to get other
jobs than they had before, and the new jobs were often part-time and
casual labour, mainly in the service sector. Have a look also at
population growth. Restrictions on minimum and maximum working hours
largely disappeared (the trade unions were smashed and dwindled to a
small number of members).


According to the Minister of Statistics, a person working for one hour
or more per week would be considered to be employed. Following that
sort of logic, I could make up some really good figures too. Nowadays
New Zealand has one of the highest rates of involuntary parttime
employment in the OECD (measured by the number of parttime workers who
would prefer a fulltime job). The number of employed as a percentage
of the population of working age has not yet recovered to the 1987
level as far as I know.


Other stunning achievements: between 1991 (when the Employment
Contracts Act was passed) and December 1995, wages increased 5.4
percent and consumer prices rose 12.1 percent. Thus, while there was
something like an aggregate economic growth of about 19 percent or so
over that period, real wages actually fell. An employers survey showed
over two-fifths of them had reduced overtime rates (extra pay for
extra hours worked) and another two-fifths had frozen them for five
years (they would not increase with increases in base pay). Again,
about two-fifths of employers had cut penal rates (about 44 percent
froze them altogether) for anti-social working hours and a third said
they used more parttime and casual workers. In 1996, the minimum wage
was about 4 US dollars and for youths under 20 there is no minimum
wage for paid work (it sounds sexy except if you have to work for
Macdonalds, as a cleaner or stuff like that). A new practice developed
where employers would hire staff as agents rather than employees, so
they could pay them less than the minimum wage.


There are now more millionaires in New Zealand probably than anywhere
else in the world, measured proportionally, per head of population.
How did that 

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Science World here in Vancouver runs a continuous loop of the 1987 Fischli
and Weiss film The Way Things Go. The borrowings of the Honda ad from the
film are obvious to anyone who has viewed both. What is also obvious -- and
ominous -- are the non-borrowings: the autotalitarian elision of the
gritty, angst-ridden edge that the original had. There is a definite sense
of futility, debris and impending 'technological' lurching out of control to
the original that perhaps, come to think of it, is more appropriate for a
car ad than the sanitized white-painted walls and polished hardwood floors
of the Honda re-make.

Interesting that the Biz 2.0 article fails to mention the Fischli and Weiss
film. It's not as if the resemblance is a secret. For another take on The
Way Things Go, here's an excerpt from Arthur Danto:

http://www.postmedia.net/999/fischweiss1.htm

Tom Walker
604 255 4812


Sacramento ag expo

2003-06-23 Thread Seth Sandronsky
PEN-L:

My rant on the Sacramento ag expo:

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles6/Sandronsky_Ag-Expo.htm

Seth Sandronsky

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Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Tom Walker wrote:

 Science World here in Vancouver runs a continuous loop of the 1987 Fischli
 For another take on The
 Way Things Go, here's an excerpt from Arthur Danto:

 http://www.postmedia.net/999/fischweiss1.htm


From Danto:

the individual episodes seem to happen one after another smoothly and
without interruption - the danger being that something will go wrong and
break the chain. It is, for all the triviality of its individual
episodes, an epic of some kind, vastly transcending the connotations of
play while retaining the spirit of innocent mischief in which boys at
play egg one another on to high and higher efforts which, taken
collectively, seem to imply the pointless horror of unending war.
Beginning with a Katzenjammer Kids mentality, Fischli and Weiss take
their mischief to a distance so great that the resulting work becomes a
postmodern classic, with a rich art-historical pedigree ranging from
Jean Tinguely, the fabricator of self-destroying machines, to Joseph
Beuys, who made art of soap, old newspapers, and whatever was, to echo
Heidegger once again, at hand.

This high and higher efforts that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos,
must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's
Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapstick, 1915-1940.

Carrol


Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
I was wrong about trade

Our aim should not be to abolish the World Trade Organisation, but to
transform it

George Monbiot
Tuesday June 24, 2003
The Guardian

A few years ago I would have raised at least two cheers. The US
government, to judge by the aggressive noises now being made by its trade
negotiators, seems determined to wreck one of the most intrusive and
destructive of the instruments of global governance: the World Trade
Organisation. A few years ago, I would have been wrong.

The only thing worse than a world with the wrong international trade rules
is a world with no trade rules at all. George Bush seems to be preparing
to destroy the WTO at the next world trade talks in September not because
its rules are unjust, but because they are not unjust enough. He is
seeking to negotiate individually with weaker countries so that he can
force even harsher terms of trade upon them. He wants to replace a
multilateral trading system with an imperial one. And this puts the global
justice movement in a difficult position.

Our problem arises from the fact that, being a diverse movement, we have
hesitated to describe precisely what we want. We have called for fair
trade, but have failed, as a body, to specify how free that trade should
be, and how it should be regulated. As a result, in the rich world at
least, we have permitted the few who do possess a clearly formulated
policy to speak on our behalf. Those people are the adherents of a
doctrine called localisation. I once supported it myself. I now accept
that I was wrong.

Localisation insists that everything which can be produced locally should
be produced locally. All nations should protect their economies by means
of trade taxes and legal barriers. The purpose of the policy is to grant
nations both economic and political autonomy, to protect cultural
distinctiveness and to prevent the damage done to the environment by
long-distance transport. Yet, when you examine the implications, you soon
discover that it is as coercive, destructive and unjust as any of the
schemes George Bush is cooking up.

My conversion came on the day I heard a speaker demand a cessation of most
forms of international trade and then, in answering a question from the
audience, condemn the economic sanctions on Iraq. If we can accept that
preventing trade with Iraq or, for that matter, imposing a trade embargo
on Cuba, impoverishes and in many cases threatens the lives of the people
of those nations, we must also accept that a global cessation of most
kinds of trade would have the same effect, but on a greater scale.

Trade, at present, is an improbable means of distributing wealth between
nations. It is characterised by coercive relationships between
corporations and workers, rich nations and poor. But it is the only
possible means. The money the poor world needs has to come from somewhere,
and if our movement rejects trade as the answer it is surely duty-bound to
find another.

The localisers don't rule out all international transactions. As Colin
Hines, who wrote their manifesto and helped to draft the Green party's
policy, accepts, Some long-distance trade will still occur for those
sectors providing goods and services to other regions of the world that
can't provide such items from within their own borders, eg certain
minerals or cash crops. To earn foreign exchange from the rich world, in
other words, the poor world must export raw materials. This, of course, is
precisely the position from which the poor nations are seeking to escape.

Raw materials will always be worth less than manufactured products. Their
production also tends to reward only those who own the primary resource.
As the workers are unskilled, wages remain low. Every worker is
replaceable by any other, so they have no power in the marketplace. The
poor world, under this system, remains trapped in both the extractive
economy and - as a result - in its subordinate relationship to the rich
world.

Interestingly, Hines's prescription also damages precisely those interests
he seeks to protect. To earn sufficient foreign exchange to import the
goods they cannot produce themselves, the poor nations would need to
export more, not less, of their natural wealth, thus increasing their
contribution to climate change, soil erosion and the loss of biodiversity.
His policy also wipes out small farmers, who would be displaced from their
land by mechanised cash-cropping.

A still greater contradiction is this: that economic localisation relies
entirely upon enhanced political globalisation. Colin Hines's model
invents a whole new series of global bodies to impose localisation on
nation states, whether they like it or not. States would be forbidden, for
example, to pass laws that diminish local control of industry and
services. Hines, in other words, prohibits precisely the kind of
political autonomy he claims to promote.

But above all, this doctrine is entirely unnecessary. There is a far
better means of protecting the 

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Or, digging deeper into the ruins...

Homage to New York 1960

http://www.artmuseum.net/w2vr/archives/Kluver/00_Homage.html

I asked Jean what I could do for him. Jean explained that he wanted to make
a machine that destroyed itself and that he needed bicycle wheels...

...It was all over in 27 minutes. The audience applauded and descended on
the wreckage for souvenirs. Jean called the event Homage to New York.

Prophecy?


Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Carrol Cox wrote,


 This high and higher efforts that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos,
 must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's
 Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapstick, 1915-1940.

Yes, also constructivism and dada. As Walter Benjamin wrote: Modernity; the
time of hell. The punishments of hell are always the newest thing going in
this domain. What is at issue is not that the same thing happens over and
over (much less is it a question here of eternal return), but rather that
the face of the world, the colossal head, precisely in what is newest never
alters --  that this newest remains, in every respect, the same


Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message -
From: Tom Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Carrol Cox wrote,


  This high and higher efforts that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos,
  must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's
  Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapstick, 1915-1940.

 Yes, also constructivism and dada. As Walter Benjamin wrote: Modernity; the
 time of hell. The punishments of hell are always the newest thing going in
 this domain. What is at issue is not that the same thing happens over and
 over (much less is it a question here of eternal return), but rather that
 the face of the world, the colossal head, precisely in what is newest never
 alters --  that this newest remains, in every respect, the same

==


Colossal Head -- by Los Lobos [a great cd which opens with wistful yearning about the 
revo, btw]

(David Hidalgo/Louie Prez)


What big eyes you have
What big lips you have
What a nice hat
I love you

(Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya.)
What you said
I can't hear you
(Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya.)
(What you said)
(What you said)
Do the colossal head
(What you said)
(What you said)
Do the colossal head

(Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya.)
(Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya.)
(Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya.)
(Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya. Ya, ya, ya.)


Re: EU v NA -- Hegel and frontiers

2003-06-23 Thread Shane Mage
Kenneth Campbell wrote:

...BMW clearly stands ahead of NA
car companies in trying to find a viable hydrogen car
Daimler-Chrysler is, about half, a NA company.  And it
is far ahead of BMW in developing a viable hydrogen
car--Daimler-Chrysler busses, powered by Ballard
(another NA company) fuel cells, are already on the
road in several European and North American cities
and many more are on order.
Shane Mage

Thunderbolt steers all
things.
Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64


Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Monbiot:

 So let us campaign not to scrap the World Trade
 Organisation, but to transform it into a Fair Trade
 Organisation, whose purpose is to restrain the rich
 while emancipating the poor. And let us ensure that
 when George Bush tries to sabotage the multilateral
 system in September, we know precisely which side we
 are on.

I am not sure if I agree with this. It would have been nice of
course if we can transform the World Trade Organization (WTO)
into a Fair Trade Organization (FTO), but one question I have is
this:

Is the WTO transformable into an FTO?


Who knows where the road may lead us, only a fool would say
Who knows what's been lost along the way
Look for the promised land in all of the dreams we share
How will we know when we are there? How will we know?


Best,

Sabri


Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I would rather call for the strengthening of the International Labor
Organization than the WTO.  Any organization that emphasizes trade rather
than people's lives is not likely to do much good.




On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 08:27:06PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
 Monbiot:

  So let us campaign not to scrap the World Trade
  Organisation, but to transform it into a Fair Trade
  Organisation, whose purpose is to restrain the rich
  while emancipating the poor. And let us ensure that
  when George Bush tries to sabotage the multilateral
  system in September, we know precisely which side we
  are on.

 I am not sure if I agree with this. It would have been nice of
 course if we can transform the World Trade Organization (WTO)
 into a Fair Trade Organization (FTO), but one question I have is
 this:

 Is the WTO transformable into an FTO?

 
 Who knows where the road may lead us, only a fool would say
 Who knows what's been lost along the way
 Look for the promised land in all of the dreams we share
 How will we know when we are there? How will we know?
 

 Best,

 Sabri

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 I would rather call for the strengthening of the International Labor
 Organization than the WTO.  Any organization that emphasizes trade rather
 than people's lives is not likely to do much good.

=

I would second that as long as we can encourage people to ask about what kinds of 
freedom trade
facilitates in order to 'dig a bit deeper' into how we produce/create [un]freedoms. 
When lefties frame
the trade issue in terms of poverty eradication, democracy and ecological sanity, we 
can win the argument
every time. This is an issue that should play to our strengths.




 On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 08:27:06PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote:
  Monbiot:
 
  I am not sure if I agree with this. It would have been nice of
  course if we can transform the World Trade Organization (WTO)
  into a Fair Trade Organization (FTO), but one question I have is
  this:
 
  Is the WTO transformable into an FTO?

==

As I live in 'the North' I would rather hear from others even as I think that many in 
'the South' are
vehemently against the Bretton Woods paradigm, given my limited sampling of opinions. 
There's a new
cosmo-eco-politics struggling to be born that's not like what happened between 
1873-1918 and we need to
understand and help create it


  Who knows where the road may lead us, only a fool would say
  Who knows what's been lost along the way
  Look for the promised land in all of the dreams we share
  How will we know when we are there? How will we know?
  
 
  Best,
 
  Sabri



There is no promised land, there's evolution and us; an open-ended 
adventure.


Ian


Re: Fw: Humphrey McQueen

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Grant, asked what I like about the Humphrey McQueen book using Coca-Cola
as the prototypical multinational corporation.
I haven't gone into it much farther since I read Michael Lewis's Moneyball
yesterday.  Although it deals with the management of the Oakland
Athletics, it actually contains some very interesting material about
market inefficiencies -- how a very cash-poor team was able to buy
relatively good players at cut rate prices.
Back to McQueen.  The 15 pages I have read so far seem a bit disorganized,
a lot of jumping around, but with fabulous research into Coca-Cola, with
many, many fascinating little extraneous nuggets of information.


--
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Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
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Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony D'Costa
Yes, the tech gap was much smaller between UK and Germany.  Today it is
much wider between OECD and the rest.  But there are some areas where the
gaps are much narrower, even if the economic base (market size, etc) are
quite disparate.  The IT industry would be a good example of this.  But
not aerospace, unless of course there is a specific tech/ind policy behind
it.  Israel, Brazil, India are cases in point.

On this score I would recommend Jorge Larrain (a Chilean I think based in
UK), where he cites Hinkelammert as offering this tech gap argument.

cheers, anthony

xxx
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Comparative International Development
University of WashingtonCampus Box 358436
1900 Commerce Street
Tacoma, WA 98402, USA

Phone: (253) 692-4462
Fax :  (253) 692-5718
xxx

On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Devine, James wrote:

 I wanted to add a point: back in the 19th century, Germany and the US were
 able to successfully use tariffs to promote national economic development.
 But part of this success was the relatively small technological gap between
 them and the market hegemon, England. With a little bit of help from
 tariffs, they were able to imitate England, catch up, and move ahead. But
 isn't the technological gap much larger nowadays? doesn't the whole
 intellectual property campaign aim to keep the tech gap as wide as possible,
 if not widen it?

 In addition, we should remember that Germany's tariff-based development was
 one (perhaps minor) source of the inter-national rivalry that set up the
 conditions for World War I.

 Jim


 I wrote:
  ...
  that's right. It's important to distinguish free trade in
  theory (the
  general lowering of tariffs and quotas on imports and the
  end of export
  subsidies) and what it usually means in practice (free
  movement of capital
  but usually not labor, the imposition of US-style
  intellectual property
  rights on the world, partial lowering of trade barriers
  (only by those
  countries with less political-economic clout), etc.)
  
  For those who want a critique of free trade in theory, see ...

 Bill:
  Not to be forgotten is what one might term the historical aspect of
  so-called free trade policies.  They tend to be pushed by powerful
  nations who have a history of fiercely protecting domestic industry
  until it can prevail in international markets.  England, Germany, and
  the U.S. are among many cases in point.  An older critique is, of
  course, Friedrich List, *The National System of Political Economy*,
  funded in part (if I remember correctly) by Pennsylvania steel
  interests.



Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the
world.  For example, most of the most famous American economists studied
in Germany.  The chemical industry was probably leading industry in the
late 19th century.  German chemical science led the world.

Regarding Jim Devine's mention of intellectual property, Germany, like a
number of other European countries, had no patent system.

 -- Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Argentina

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
IMF Chief Meets with Troubled Argentina
Reuters
Monday, June 23, 2003; 11:05 PM
By Hugh Bronstein

BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - The head of the International Monetary Fund began
talks with Argentina's President Nestor Kirchner Monday, as the country's
new government made a fresh start at pulling the economy out of its debt
crisis.

IMF Managing Director Horst Koehler also met Economy Minister Roberto
Lavagna, as well as bankers and businessmen.

The two-day meetings come 18 months after Argentina staged the world's
biggest debt default and were seen by Wall Street as a preliminary step in
the country's financial rehabilitation.

We would hope that the IMF encourages Argentina to move quickly on the
debt restructuring and presses upon the Argentine authorities the need to
make more of a fiscal effort, said Abigail McKenna, a portfolio manager
at Morgan Stanley Investment Management and member of the steering panel
of the Argentina Bondholders Committee.

As the meetings took place, several hundred protesters from left-wing
groups gathered in downtown Buenos Aires to protest Koehler's presence.
Some demonstrators burned a U.S. flag.

Officials in the government, the IMF and the United States -- the top IMF
shareholder -- have said the country would benefit from a long-term
lending deal to replace an intermediate accord set to expire in August.

But the Kirchner government is keen to protect its citizens from IMF-style
austerity after a four-year recession pushed millions of middle class
workers into poverty and joblessness.

Lavagna, under a previous government last year, engaged in a war of words
with the IMF over his softly-go-softly approach to austerity programs.

In a possible sign of progress, the government said on Monday it would
give state help to thousands of poor Argentines unable to make mortgage
payments. That may allow the government to end an emergency measure that
prevents banks from foreclosing on mortgages -- a measure that irked the
IMF.

With bond restructuring talks yet to start and the economy just beginning
to grow, expectations were muted as Koehler made the rounds in Buenos
Aires. Market players did not expect a new IMF program for Argentina to be
announced this week.

Koehler was expected to speak publicly about his trip late Tuesday
afternoon after meeting with legislators, provincial governors and Central
Bank chief Alfonso Prat Gay.

Considered a star pupil of free-market policies in the 1990s, Argentina
fell from grace with the IMF and United States after mismanagement led to
economic collapse at the end of 2001 when the country defaulted on $95
billion in debt.

The IMF drew heavy fire for its role in the crisis -- with many Argentines
saying their country made a major mistake by following the lender's
advice -- and for its failure to bail out the country. But six months ago,
the two sides managed to strike a $6.8-billion debt rollover deal, which
expires in August.

Latin America's No. 3 economy is one of the largest debtors to
multilateral lenders. Argentina owes $14 billion to the IMF and $31
billion to multilaterals as a whole.


Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the
 world.



For males.

Ian


Re: Marx on India

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I have mentioned several times that I have written about Marx and India.
My research led me to believe that Marx was more concerned about refuting
Henry Carey than about India.  Carey was trying to sabotage Marx's
relationship with the New York Tribune.  He believed that England was
responsible for all the ills in the world, so Marx suggested that England
might have some positive influence.  I doubt that he ever thought that
these articles would be taken to be a major indication of his theory
economic development.


--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
You might have said CERTAIN males, since their system was hardly
egalitarian.


On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:19:28PM -0700, Ian Murray wrote:
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the
  world.

 

 For males.

 Ian

--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929

Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan


 You might have said CERTAIN males, since their system was hardly
 egalitarian.

===

What, are you saying intra-gender inegalitarianism was worse than the
inter-gender inegalitarianism?

Ian


Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
 There is no promised land, there's evolution and us; an
 open-ended  adventure.

 Ian

Sure Ian, although there is also the _possibility_ of revolution!

But this still remains true:

 How will we know when we are there? How will we know?

Compare this against:

 And let us ensure that when George Bush tries to
 sabotage the multilateral system in September, we
 know precisely which side we are on.

Why can't we be againts both Bush and the WTO?

And don't ask me what the third alternative is. Sometimes, there
are only two, sometimes there are more than two.

If only I knew which is when! But this time, I choose to look for
the third or the forth or the fifth or 

Best,

Sabri


Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message -
From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Why can't we be againts both Bush and the WTO?

=

Most definitely we can. It's how to create collective action-imagination
for designing institutions for the 21st century that is at issue given
lefty norms.



 And don't ask me what the third alternative is. Sometimes, there
 are only two, sometimes there are more than two.

 If only I knew which is when! But this time, I choose to look for
 the third or the forth or the fifth or 

 Best,

 Sabri

=

What is the 3cubed way? :-)


Ian


PK

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
[and when will he write TRAGEDY?]



[NYTimes]
June 24, 2003
Denial and Deception
By PAUL KRUGMAN


Politics is full of ironies. On the White House Web site, George W. Bush's
speech from Oct. 7, 2002 - in which he made the case for war with Iraq -
bears the headline Denial and Deception. Indeed.

There is no longer any serious doubt that Bush administration officials
deceived us into war. The key question now is why so many influential
people are in denial, unwilling to admit the obvious.

About the deception: Leaks from professional intelligence analysts, who
are furious over the way their work was abused, have given us a far more
complete picture of how America went to war. Thanks to reporting by my
colleague Nicholas Kristof, other reports in The New York Times and The
Washington Post, and a magisterial article by John Judis and Spencer
Ackerman in The New Republic, we now know that top officials, including
Mr. Bush, sought to convey an impression about the Iraqi threat that was
not supported by actual intelligence reports.

In particular, there was never any evidence linking Saddam Hussein to Al
Qaeda; yet administration officials repeatedly suggested the existence of
a link. Supposed evidence of an active Iraqi nuclear program was
thoroughly debunked by the administration's own experts; yet
administration officials continued to cite that evidence and warn of
Iraq's nuclear threat.

And yet the political and media establishment is in denial, finding
excuses for the administration's efforts to mislead both Congress and the
public.

For example, some commentators have suggested that Mr. Bush should be let
off the hook as long as there is some interpretation of his prewar
statements that is technically true. Really? We're not talking about a
business dispute that hinges on the fine print of the contract; we're
talking about the most solemn decision a nation can make. If Mr. Bush's
speeches gave the nation a misleading impression about the case for war,
close textual analysis showing that he didn't literally say what he seemed
to be saying is no excuse. On the contrary, it suggests that he knew that
his case couldn't stand close scrutiny.

Consider, for example, what Mr. Bush said in his denial and deception
speech about the supposed Saddam-Osama link: that there were high-level
contacts that go back a decade. In fact, intelligence agencies knew of
tentative contacts between Saddam and an infant Al Qaeda in the early
1990's, but found no good evidence of a continuing relationship. So Mr.
Bush made what sounded like an assertion of an ongoing relationship
between Iraq and Al Qaeda, but phrased it cagily - suggesting that he or
his speechwriter knew full well that his case was shaky.

Other commentators suggest that Mr. Bush may have sincerely believed,
despite the lack of evidence, that Saddam was working with Osama and
developing nuclear weapons. Actually, that's unlikely: why did he use such
evasive wording if he didn't know that he was improving on the truth? In
any case, however, somebody was at fault. If top administration officials
somehow failed to apprise Mr. Bush of intelligence reports refuting key
pieces of his case against Iraq, they weren't doing their jobs. And Mr.
Bush should be the first person to demand their resignations.

So why are so many people making excuses for Mr. Bush and his officials?

Part of the answer, of course, is raw partisanship. One important
difference between our current scandal and the Watergate affair is that
it's almost impossible now to imagine a Republican senator asking, What
did the president know, and when did he know it?

But even people who aren't partisan Republicans shy away from confronting
the administration's dishonest case for war, because they don't want to
face the implications.

After all, suppose that a politician - or a journalist - admits to himself
that Mr. Bush bamboozled the nation into war. Well, launching a war on
false pretenses is, to say the least, a breach of trust. So if you admit
to yourself that such a thing happened, you have a moral obligation to
demand accountability - and to do so in the face not only of a powerful,
ruthless political machine but in the face of a country not yet ready to
believe that its leaders have exploited 9/11 for political gain. It's a
scary prospect.

Yet if we can't find people willing to take the risk - to face the truth
and act on it - what will happen to our democracy?