We probably agree on some broad principles, not necessarily all. I
would not contest your knowledge of the local conditions, Chris, not
only because you are very well informed but because even the most
progressive of movements may often have some unappealing or
reactionary feature, as Michael
Hi Michael, a couple of comments.
I know practically nothing about Chechnya, but isn't it possible that both Lou and
Chris
are partially correct. After perhaps centuries -- I don't pretend to know the
history --
of oppression, many people there retreat into a movement for fundamentalist
BTW this is my friend Robert Ware on the background to the Second Chechen War and the
reasons for the radicalization of the Chechen leadership.
Los Angeles Times
8 November 1999
[for personal use only]
Clan Rivalries Sowed Seeds of Conflict
Chechnya: No sooner did it free itself from Moscow than
Chris Doss wrote:
In Chechnya, blood is everything. Chechen social organization is based on
entrenched kinship hierarchies without a history of overarching political
organization, save that which was imposed from Moscow. Chechnya is in many
ways a pre-modern society, and no sooner did it free
Russia Gave U.S. Intel on Iraq, Putin Says
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, June 19, 2004
ASTANA, Kazakhstan (AP) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin said Friday
his government warned Washington that Saddam Hussein's regime was
preparing attacks in the United States and its interests abroad -- an
assertion
Wow! Lou, you are trying to do almost everything wrong in one sentence -- bringing
irrelevent debates from other lists, attacking Chris personally (without doing it
directly, I admit).
I brought up the Kurds for the same reason that Lou did. The difference is that I
have a fuzzier
Michael Perelman wrote:
Wow! Lou, you are trying to do almost everything wrong in one sentence -- bringing
irrelevent debates from other lists, attacking Chris personally (without doing it
directly, I admit).
Sorry. I find the war against the Chechens to be unspeakably brutal and
find it rather
Why does everything come back to Turkey, Iraq or Vietnam? Are you incapable of
actually discussing Chechnya because you know nothing on the subject? Hmmm.
No, he is in favor of peace between the Russians and the good Chechen
people as soon as the task of rooting out the bandits is completed.
By the way, Mr. smart guy, what's your Chechnya Plan? How should Russia react to
repeated terrorization of its southern population? I know people who lived in the
region at the time -- it was not a pretty situation. Presumably your advice to them
would be to grin and bear it.
-Original
I would remind PEN-L'ers that we used to hear
Chris Doss type arguments about the Kurds from a fellow named Hakki
Alacakaptan who mounted a one-man crusade against them on PEN-L and
LBO-Talk.
---
A man who also had very interesting things to say about sponsorship of Chechen
extremists by Turkish
This is my last post on this, since pen-L is an economics forum and not a Chechnya
one, But I wrote:
repeated terrorization of its southern population?
I mean stuff like this, basically. A friend of my ex-girlfriend was kidnapped, by the
way. He was tortured to death. So don't give me pious
Chris Doss wrote:
By the way, Mr. smart guy, what's your Chechnya Plan? How should Russia
react to repeated terrorization of its southern population? I know
people who lived in the region at the time -- it was not a pretty
situation. Presumably your advice to them would be to grin and bear it.
In other words, you have no plan.
-Original Message-
From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 11:50:26 -0400
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Putin
Chris Doss wrote:
By the way, Mr. smart guy, what's your Chechnya Plan? How should Russia
react to
This is degenerating rapidly. Chris, obviously, knows more about the particulars
that any of us do, even if we do not agree about our vision for the region.
Revolutionary activity often makes for unsavory alliances. Some of the leadership
may not be the best people. Also, many times the
I blame the situation in the republic on a combination of incredibly weak Chechen
leadership, the clan nature of Chechen society, poverty, Islamist influence (and $$)
and the wreckage caused by the First Chechen War.
Louis apparently thinks that the majority of the Chechen people---born,
By the way, Russian soldiers do not leave Chechnya in planes. They take the train or
bus through Ingushetia. In principle, they could leave on foot, like the 35,000
Russians, Ukrainians, Jews, Armenians and Greeks did who were ethnically cleansed in
the early 90s.
-Original Message-
Michael Perelman wrote:
Are wage increases outstripping benefit cuts?
In the U.S., real wages (ex benefits) are about flat, though they
stayed positive through mid-2003 or so. The compensation measures in
the productivity series are rising, mainly because health insurance
premiums are up
Ross McElwee's 1986 Sherman's March is now available in DVD. The
alternative but unwieldy title is A Meditation on the Possibility of
Romantic Love in the South During an Era of Nuclear Weapons
Proliferation conveys the film-makers deeper motivation in making this
quirky but brilliant documentary.
In a message dated 6/19/2004 11:10:39 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I blame
the situation in the republic on a combination of incredibly weak Chechen
leadership, the clan nature of Chechen society, poverty, Islamist influence
(and $$) and the wreckage caused by
Chris Doss wrote:
they could leave on foot, like the 35,000 Russians, Ukrainians, Jews,
Armenians and Greeks did who were ethnically cleansed in the early 90s.
Michael Perelman referred to Chris Doss's expertise on the region. Maybe
he can then substantiate the above comment since Lexis-Nexis
I wrote:
in which the global downward harmonization of wages and social
benefits is dragging down consumption
Doug asks:
Where are wages falling? And where is consumption falling (even after
subtracting debt growth)?
real wages are falling at this point in the US, but that's a short-term
happy Juneteenth!
jd
Doug, I don't understand. If health insurance premiums are increasing because of
improvements in health care, real benefits might be increasing. Otherwise?
On Sat, Jun 19, 2004 at 12:23:35PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
Michael Perelman wrote:
Are wage increases outstripping benefit cuts?
In
In a message dated 6/19/2004 1:03:04 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
happy
Juneteenth!jd
Comment
It is also my mother's birthday . . . . who passed a while back, but the
wife and I are celebrating Juneteenth in Texas - the birthplace of the holiday
as I understand
El Hombre Metrosexual in Cuba? (exploring Cuba's changing
attitudes toward homosexuality, reflected in and facilitated by
journalism, social sciences, and artistic expressions in Cuba):
http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/06/el-hombre-metrosexual-in-cuba.html.
--
Yoshie
* Critical Montages:
From the WSJ of 16 June 04:
OIL MAJORS REPLACE JUST 75% OF RESERVES PUMPED, STUDY SAYS
London-Oil companies replaced only 75% of the reserves they pumped during
the past few years, far below what Securities and Exchange Commission filing
indicate, a report by Deutsche Bank AG says.
SEC filings
As I mentioned before, reserves are a theoretical entity, estimated by the corporation.
They can be real or Enron-like. The Shell game reminds us how theoretical they
can be. Increasing or decreasing reserves, especially over a short
period do not constitute convincing evidence.
David, of
I am glad that the flame has subsided. I am leaving to go out east early tomorrow to
visit
my Dad in the hospital. I still might be able to participate here, but please, just in
case I loose touch, be nice.
--
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Why Michael, this is being nice... You should see how it's done on the
railroad
- Original Message -
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Putin
I am glad that the flame has subsided. I am leaving
No, but the list has been peppered with reports that Mark Jones was right
headlining stories of reserve reductions taken by Shell, etc.
The point is that the decline in the replacement rate is economically
determined by a social catergory--profit-- not geologically determined by
some hypothetical
One more thing: Reserves are not a theoretical entity. SEC requirements
are quite stringent (which is what got Shell in trouble), and required proof
of existence at the wellhead. In fact, the majors are upset that the SEC
will not relax its modification to the rule-- allowing seismic and 3D
Doug Henwood wrote:
H, I think it's worth testing the hypothesis that when PEN-L gets a
thread going on economic vulnerability, the economy is about to accelerate.
This is a good real-time test.
Good point. There's an upswing. Some financials will get fixed and debts
will be rolled over.
Michael, I would be that C. Cox would know, but it sounds like it belongs in the
Brass Check.
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 04:11:17AM -0400, Michael Pollak wrote:
[Got it from A.W.A.D, so don't know the exact source]
It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary
depends
What's Wrong With Kansas, the new book by Thomas Frank is interesting.
His acknowledgements include a roster of Pen-L ers.
Gene Coyle
such as whom?
jd
-Original Message-
From: Eugene Coyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 6/19/2004 8:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: [PEN-L] Thomas Frank's new book
What's Wrong With Kansas, the
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