Re: Re: question on the pen-l project

2000-01-23 Thread William S. Lear

On Saturday, January 22, 2000 at 20:32:32 (-0500) Rod Hay writes:
Maybe, but I don't know how? Anyone do this in HTML?

There are a fair number of ways to do this.  What we need is a central
repository for the outline and a check in/out process to allow
multiple people to check out the file, edit it, and check it back in.
I could probably have a basic version of something like this up on my
website in a few days.


Bill



Be a European, Smell Better

2000-01-23 Thread Louis Proyect

NY Times Magazine, 1/23/00

Gogol À Go-Go

By chronicling the garish excesses of contemporary Russia, the novelist
Victor Pelevin has earned the scorn of the Moscow literary world and the
adulation of the country's youth. By JASON COWLEY 

Upon returning to Moscow recently from a stay in a Buddhist monastery in
South Korea, the Russian novelist Victor Pelevin received a surprise phone
call from an Orthodox priest. Why, the patriarch demanded to know, had
Pelevin -- unlike the great Alexander Solzhenitsyn, or the even greater Leo
Tolstoy -- neglected his Christianity? "I told him I hadn't neglected my
Christianity," Pelevin says. "I grew up in an atheist country! He was
unconvinced. He said that because I was popular with the young, I had a
responsibility to set a good example. I was polite to the old man, but his
expectations of me were ridiculous. I'm a writer. I have a responsibility
to no one." 

Nearly anywhere else, this remark would seem like a harmless expression of
artistic self-assertion. But no country is more haunted by the spirit of
its dead writers than Russia; even today writers still occupy an emblematic
position in society. Yet just as Moscow has escaped its Communist torpor
for the willful chaos of post-Soviet life, so the Russian image of the
novelist is no longer that of reverent seer or even heroic dissident.
Rather, if anyone embodies the new image of the writer in Russia it is the
38-year-old Pelevin, a laconic semi-recluse with a shaved head, a
fashionable interest in Zen meditation and an eccentric attachment to dark
glasses. (He is seldom seen without them.) 

Even as pulp fiction and pornography increasingly fill Moscow bookstalls,
Pelevin has emerged as that unusual thing: a genuinely popular serious
writer. He is almost alone among his generation of Russian novelists in
speaking with a voice authentically his own, and in trying to write about
Russian life in its current idiom. It's a finger-clickingly contemporary
voice: wry, exaggerated, wised-up, amused. His mode of writing about low
life in a high style, his talent for the fantastic and the grotesque and
his interest in drugs, computer games and junk culture have resonated with
a generation for whom the novel was becoming too slow a form. And he is,
unlike many fellow Russian writers whose fiction is largely preoccupied
with the trauma of the Soviet past, not in flight from present
difficulties. In fact, he embraces them with the ruthless ardor of a child
pulling wings off a butterfly. 

"Generation P," Pelevin's most recent novel, was a summer sensation in
Russia, selling more than 200,000 copies. (The translation to English is
still being completed.) The book tracks the adventures of a skeptical
intellectual, Vavilen Tatarsky, who becomes a kopiraiter -- an advertising
copywriter -- adrift in a glamorously corrupt Moscow. He spends his days
devising Russian versions of Western slogans: "Gucci for Men -- Be a
European, Smell Better." 

The title is clearly a reference to America's jaded Generation X. But what
does the "P" mean? "It could mean any one of three things," Pelevin says.
"It could stand for Pepsi, or Pelevin, or" -- he uses a vulgar Russian
slang term that can be translated loosely as "absolute catastrophe" -- or
all three of these at once." So Pelevin's generation of liberal freedoms
and designer excesses is also the generation of criminality, corruption and
despair. "I feel disgusted by everything about my country," he says. "In
the Soviet times you could escape from the evil of the state by withdrawing
into the private spaces of your own head; but now the evil seems to be
diffused everywhere. We are all tainted by it." 


Complete article at:
http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/2123mag-cowley7.html


Louis Proyect
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Re: corruption

2000-01-23 Thread Charles Brown

For one thing, the monied interests are constantly buying influence from politicians 
in legal ways. Money is the life blood of politics. The vast majority of politicians 
are influence peddlars in the first place. Take campaign financing in the U.S. So, a 
lot of times no doubt the line between legal and illegal bribery gets fuzzy or just 
forgotten. "Corruption" is standard operating procedure in bourgeois democracy. Some 
corruption is legal and some isn't. Sometimes the corruption gets exposed for various 
reasons, but it is almost always there, whether exposed or not.

CB

 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/21/00 05:28PM 
what do you folks think about the corruption of the Christian Democrats in
Germany? To me it links up with similar corruption of CDs in Italy and
Japan. In all three, the corrupt CDs were part of the US coalition against
the USSR, with corruption often involving CIA-type funds. With the end of
the Cold War, this corruption came to light, as it was no longer in the
coalition's interest to cover it up. 

I'm not saying that CDs are necessarily worse than say, social democrats.
After all, the economist Papandreou became a corrupt PM of Greece. 

Of course, there's nothing necessarily corrupt about politicians. In the
private sector, they call it "business as usual."

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://clawww.lmu.edu/~JDevine 



RE: textbook

2000-01-23 Thread Louis Proyect

This could be done through the archiving software used at CSF for example,
which allows display of messages by thread topic, although it might not
handle subthreads as well as other message board software.  There is message
board software out there, a decent one by O'Reilley that carries a small
charge however, but there is probably freeware that would do the job as
well.

--  Nathan Newman

It would be much better to maintain the "bulletin board" on the website
itself. The Nation and Z Magazine utilize such software. Tomorrow when I
return to work I will research the options.

Louis Proyect
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Re: RE: textbook

2000-01-23 Thread Michael Perelman

exactly.  Hopefully, we will have the existing outline look different than
the comments.  Every couple days or so we can sort things out.

"Max B. Sawicky" wrote:

 Let people log in and post an amended or alternative
 version separately, with some space for comments
 (a la 'guestbook').

 A committee can sort it all out later.

 mbs

 -Original Message-
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 To: Pen-L
 Subject: [PEN-L:15711] textbook

 If we have a site where anyone can log in and amend the outline. We will
 soon end up with a unrecognizable hodgepodge. I say we go with the one
 we have now. Appoint an editorial committee. Have that committee approve
 changes. Assign sections to volunteers and proceed from there.

 Rod

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