Re: Re: Re: Zizek, Stalin and Bukharin

2000-01-31 Thread Joel Blau
"Tendentious" means that from the outset, the conclusions are overdetermined. "Different" opinions may well be labeled sectarian and biased, but the best way to defuse the charge is to build up the narrative tension in the text by fairly and completely describing other positions. Then, when you

An invitation

2000-01-31 Thread Louis Proyect
I urge PEN-L'ers to respect Michael Perelman's admonitions, which apparently Doug Henwood brushed aside. I invite Doug and Justin Schwartz to continue this debate on the Socialist Register mailing-list where I will be happy to give the both of them a lesson on Russian history and politics. I have

Re: Re: Zizek, Stalin and Bukharin

2000-01-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: I'm looking forward to the PEN-L econ textbook, but no doubt some of my students will find it "biased." The ruling ideas are in the interest of the ruling class, and those who go against common sense have to be prepared for a charge of "bias" and "tendentiousness."

Re: Re: Zizek, Stalin and Bukharin

2000-01-31 Thread Brad De Long
OK, if Lou wants to think of me as an anticommunist cold-warrior in the neighorhood of the Reaganites, that is his right. --Justin Don't take it too hard. He thinks I'm a libertarian troll... :-) Brad DeLong

hate crimes petition

2000-01-31 Thread Jim Devine
Yesterday, I received an e-mail request that I sign an e-petition in support of federal hate-crimes legislation. The following is my reply, in case anyone on pen-l is interested. I sent it to the e-address that they said to send to, but it was rejected. Maybe the petition has taken on an e-life

PEN-AL snap quiz: answers to question 2

2000-01-31 Thread Timework Web
2. a. J.M. "green cheese" Keynes b. Walt W. "takeoff" Rostow c. Milton "nairu" Friedman Tom Walker

The Case for Dubya

2000-01-31 Thread Max Sawicky
Presidential Terms and Federal Spending, 1980-1999 (By Fiscal Year, Percent of GDP) (source: Economic and Budget Outlook, CBO, January 2000) 19761980198819921999

Safety in Chinese SOEs, Mining Sector

2000-01-31 Thread Stephen E Philion
Subject: Beijing exploits appalling safety record to shut mines World Socialist Web Site Beijing exploits appalling safety record to shut mines By Terry Cook 31 January 2000 On January 11, a mine collapse in China's eastern Jiangsu province killed seven workers instantly. The next day 23

U.S.: Un Paraiso de Locos

2000-01-31 Thread Max Sawicky
Hola, dudes. http://www.cincodias.es/scripts/cincodias/noticias/articulo.asp?ntc=113964a p=2

Suit against Monsanto etc.

2000-01-31 Thread Ken Hanly
(Information abstracted from Manitoba Co-operator Dec 23, 1999) On December 14, a group of antitrust lawyers representing U.S. and French farmers, sued life sciences firm Monsanto, alleging that it sold genetically altered crops without first ensuring they were safe for consumers and the

commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Jim Devine
from SLATE magazine: Inevitably, reporters run out real questions and start asking [US Senator GOP presidential candidate John] McCain why he likes talking to them so much. "It's fun. It's intellectually stimulating, " he says. "Some of the last of the Trotskyites have been on this bus. It's

Re: Suit against Monsanto etc.

2000-01-31 Thread Ken Hanly
I wonder what the B.S. stands for :) Cheers, Ken Hanly Louis Proyect wrote: Thomas Hoban a sociologist at North Carolina State said that his research showed that two thirds to three fourths of consumers have a neutral or positive attitude to GM foods. Cheers, Ken Hanly The article

Re: commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: from SLATE magazine: Inevitably, reporters run out real questions and start asking [US Senator GOP presidential candidate John] McCain why he likes talking to them so much. "It's fun. It's intellectually stimulating, " he says. "Some of the last of the Trotskyites have been on

Re: Suit against Monsanto etc.

2000-01-31 Thread Michael Perelman
I think that the threat from GM food is less the human health than that posed by the effects of genetic pollution to the general ecosystem when genes cross from one species to another. Louis Proyect wrote: Thomas Hoban a sociologist at North Carolina State said that his research showed

Re: Re: commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Jim Devine
At 05:54 PM 1/31/00 -0500, you wrote: Jim Devine wrote: from SLATE magazine: Inevitably, reporters run out real questions and start asking [US Senator GOP presidential candidate John] McCain why he likes talking to them so much. "It's fun. It's intellectually stimulating, " he says. "Some of

E. Timor dollarizes

2000-01-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Somebody just posted a note on Louis's Marxism list to the effect that East Timor will now be using the dollar as its official currency. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901

on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Jim Devine
"The contemporary economics profession emphasizes the journal article as the vehicle for developing new knowledge claims in economics. In important and poorly understood respects, this practice has changed the ways in which knowledge claims are developed. More importantly, it has also affected

Re: Re: Re: commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: Doug answers: I am not now, nor I have I ever been, a Trotskyite. Or a Trotskyist, either. Just ask a real (ex-)Trot. Doug, you make it sound like a bad thing! Trotsky himself seems like not an entirely bad sort, but Trots are another story entirely, except maybe for the

Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Peter Dorman
amen Peter Jim Devine wrote: "The contemporary economics profession emphasizes the journal article as the vehicle for developing new knowledge claims in economics. In important and poorly understood respects, this practice has changed the ways in which knowledge claims are developed. More

commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Louis Proyect
Trotsky himself seems like not an entirely bad sort, but Trots are another story entirely, except maybe for the Mpls general strike. I can't imagine their net contribution to human betterment to have been positive, but I'm willing to hear arguments to the contrary. Doug Without the "Trots",

Possible Partial Argument to the Contrary, [Fwd: Pablo etc]

2000-01-31 Thread Carrol Cox
I don't really know much myself about the Trotskyist movement, but I found the following post interesting when it appeared on the marxist list. Doug wrote: "I can't imagine their net contribution to human betterment to have been positive, but I'm willing to hear arguments to the contrary."

Re: commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: Try to find some room in your busy reading schedule for some history, Doug. It will improve your mind. Thanks for the advice. My mind needs all the help it can get. Doug

Re: commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Louis, please. I thought that we were going to put an end to the provocations. Louis Proyect wrote: Try to find some room in your busy reading schedule for some history, Doug. It will improve your mind. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929

Re: Re: commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Louis Proyect
That's the Doug I used to love. At 09:19 PM 1/31/00 -0500, you wrote: Louis Proyect wrote: Try to find some room in your busy reading schedule for some history, Doug. It will improve your mind. Thanks for the advice. My mind needs all the help it can get. Doug Louis Proyect Marxism mailing

Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread JKSCHW
OK, but consider that among the most important works of economics of the last century are Mises' article from 1920 on socialist calculation, Lange's "reply" and Hayek's response, all journal articles, and Coase's paper on the theory of the firm, perhaps THE most important work in 20th century

BLS Daily Report

2000-01-31 Thread Richardson_D
BLS DAILY REPORT, MONDAY, JANUARY 31, 2000 RELEASED TODAY: The total number of persons who worked at some point during the year increased by about 1.6 million in 1998 to 144.8 million, according to the annual survey of work experience. The number who experienced some unemployment continued to

Re: Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coase's paper on the theory of the firm, perhaps THE most important work in 20th century economics. Eh? Why? Because for a moment, a big name future Nobelist took note of nonmarket institutions? More an indictment of the profession than something worthy of note in

Re: Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Rod Hay
Some one has a strange view of economics if these are considered the most important articles. Coase's paper is one of the great mysteries of bourgeois economics. How did such a vague, (fundamentally limited) paper ever attract any attention at all. Mises is wrong on socialism. Calculation is not

Coase, the myth; was, RE: Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Justin, You need to go and work in a large corporation for about 10 years; Coase' work is just so much phlogiston theory. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:58 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: Re: Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Rob Schaap
G'day Rod, I really hope you've excited some threads with these big calls, Rod! This is stuff we have to grab with both hands, I reckon. I mean, how do CEOs get away with extolling the virtues of capitalism when their own firms, based on internal non-market relations as they are, definitively

Re: Re: commies in New Hampshire

2000-01-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Thank you, Doug. This sort of good humored response is the best way to extinguish flames. Doug Henwood wrote: Louis Proyect wrote: Try to find some room in your busy reading schedule for some history, Doug. It will improve your mind. Thanks for the advice. My mind needs all the help it

RE: Re: Re: Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
G'day Rod, I really hope you've excited some threads with these big calls, Rod! This is stuff we have to grab with both hands, I reckon. I mean, how do CEOs get away with extolling the virtues of capitalism when their own firms, based on internal non-market relations as they are,

Re: Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Michael Perelman
Oh my God! Are these the most important? For whom? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, but consider that among the most important works of economics of the last century are Mises' article from 1920 on socialist calculation, Lange's "reply" and Hayek's response, all journal articles, and Coase's

Re: Coase, the myth; was, RE: Re: on how economistspublish

2000-01-31 Thread Lisa Ian Murray
Unlike the rest of economics? I mean, you aren't go to see general equilibrium being attained or labor markets clearing. You won't see profit maximization or factors of production being priced at their marginal contribution. That's not news in these circles. You wil also not see labor being

Re: Re: on how economists publish

2000-01-31 Thread Jim Devine
actually, I think that Palley is talking about the "contemporary economics profession," i.e, since 1960 or so. (The work that Justin refers to was done before that.) What's he's writing about (it seems to me) is that most economics is like Kuhn's "normal science" without the science. The fix

nice quote

2000-01-31 Thread Michael Perelman
I found this in a very interesting book: Brechin, Gray A. 1999. Imperial San Francisco: Urban Power, Earthly Ruin (Berkeley: University of California Press). 32: In 1849, San Francisco's Alta California reported that "to get the gold from [river bottoms and quartz veins], we must employ gold.

Re: Re: Coase, the myth; was, RE: Re: on howeconomistspublish

2000-01-31 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 00-02-01 00:04:31 EST, you write: sn't that what you academics are for? Hell I work two jobs, do I have to solve the theory of the firm problem too...don't tell me to unionize the folks where I work; already tried that and the owner of my company went to Congress, shelled

Re: Re: Re: Coase, the myth; was, RE: Re: on howeconomistspublish

2000-01-31 Thread Rod Hay
For those who are not in the know, the Coase article referred ask a simple question. If the market is the most efficient mechanism for allocation, why do firms not use the market to allocate resources internally? The answer is that using the market costs. These costs are called transactions

Re: Zizek, Stalin and Bukharin

2000-01-31 Thread Doug Henwood
Louis Proyect wrote: No surprise here, Justin. We've been through this in previous go-rounds. You are a supporter of Sam Farber's approach, who argues that there's a dotted line between Lenin and Stalin. Zizek's arguments would appeal to somebody whose understanding of the Russian Revolution is

Re: Re: Re: Re: Coase, the myth; was,RE: Re: on howeconomistspublish

2000-01-31 Thread Carrol Cox
Rod Hay wrote: The problem is that the reasoning is circular. It is a tautology. The problem has been given a name, but no demonstration, either logical or empirical, has been given. It sounds nice, "Oh yeah, transactions costs, that makes sense." But it means nothing. The classic