Yoshie's dearth of female contributors

2000-03-17 Thread michael
Yoshie is correct, but she does not go far enough. Too few of all sorts of catergories post: too few from the non-anglo saxon world -- we have people from all over the world -- too few of the lurkers post. In the past, I have declared a couple of days when none of us regulars are permitted to po

Re: Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Ken Hanly
I couldn't find 1988 Archives but I did check through some of the other articles that Nathan mentions. His quotes are quite selective. Even though I read through the articles quite quickly I do not think that they deserve Nathan's dismissive attitude I get the impression that LM accepts a wide ran

Re: Re: Re: Re: Charters//school vouchers

2000-03-17 Thread Anthony D'Costa
If you saw what math training some of our college students have had then mastering addition and substraction will definitely be an advantage. xxx Anthony P. D'Costa, Associate Professor Comparative International Develop

Gender & Free Speech (was Re: LM, Louis, and Free Speech)

2000-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Carrol: >Incidentally, I think there is one freedom which any communist organization >must deny its members -- the freedom of silence. The fact that the vast >majority of subscribers to any maillist not only have but exercise this >freedom (the right to remain silent) is one feature of maillists

Re: Re: Re: Charters//school vouchers

2000-03-17 Thread tom wood
Rod Hay wrote: "On the issue of school control, favour a system which has central standards and guidelines that have to be met by all schools. Certain material that has to be mastered." And just what are those standards? And what is that material? And who is to say when it i

Re: Re: Re: charter schools

2000-03-17 Thread tom wood
My daughter attends a charter school in San Francisco. It is a public school, open to all, with a unionized staff and about 4/5 of the funding of comparably sized public schools, which means parent involvement is not only expected but necessary. For instance, I will spend this Saturday clean

Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >I thought I answered that. I wrote about how Greenspan is supposed >to be the capitalist Nanny who is supposed to decide what's good for >them as a class, in the long run. That doesn't mean that there's no >conflict between the Nanny and the brats... True. As Chris Rude, ex

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Jim Devine
At 06:48 PM 3/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >Jim Devine wrote: > >>Right: The finance types are telling jokes about Greenspan and >>questioning authority, while the National Association of Manufacturers is >>telling him not to punish industry by monetary policies aimed at cooling >>off finance. > >So

Re: Re: Re: RE: Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Eugene Coyle
Why is the 30 year bond yield going down and mortgage rates going up? I'll check back in this space in 12-18 months. Gene Doug Henwood wrote: > Jim Devine wrote: > > >Right: The finance types are telling jokes about Greenspan and > >questioning authority, while the National Association of > >M

Re: Re: RE: Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Jim Devine wrote: >Right: The finance types are telling jokes about Greenspan and >questioning authority, while the National Association of >Manufacturers is telling him not to punish industry by monetary >policies aimed at cooling off finance. So why has the Fed raised rates, and why is like

[Fwd: Open content encyclopedia calls for submissions about history (fwd)]

2000-03-17 Thread Carrol Cox
This might be of interest to leftists of various stripes. Carrol -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 13:34:35 -0800 From: Larry Sanger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Open content encyclopedia calls for submissions about history A major new encyclop

h. rap brown

2000-03-17 Thread michael
The person who used to be H. Rap Brown is now accused of shooting a policeman in Atlanta today. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Jim Devine
Nathan N. wrote: >Yeah, lots of people on these lists disagree with what Sweeney et al [of >the AFL-CIO] are doing with that solidarity at times, but anyone should >admit that building a broader unified conception of the "working class" in >America is an important gain, especially given the inc

Re: RE: Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Jim Devine
Doug Henwood writes: > >The regime of the political business cycle would be an artificial > >restoration of the position as it existed in nineteenth-century > >capitalism. Full employment would be reached only at the top of the > >boom, but slumps would be relatively mild and short-lived. Max rip

RE: Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Max Sawicky
. . . >The regime of the political business cycle would be an artificial >restoration of the position as it existed in nineteenth-century >capitalism. Full employment would be reached only at the top of the >boom, but slumps would be relatively mild and short-lived. Doug Henwood >> This do

Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Nathan: >That folks like Yoshie declare them anti-imperialists when they publicize so >many reactionary political positions amazes me. Some samples: The point is, though, LM was _not_ done in for their obnoxious views on feminism, environmentalism, or anything else. It is LM's questioning of I

Re: Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Nathan Newman wrote: >By bracketing major fights supporting everyone from minimum wage home health >care workers in Los Angeles to Boeing engineers, the AFL-CIO is hopefully >outlining a range of solidarity across sectors of the working class. Yeah, >lots of people on these lists disagree with w

Re: whoops and an apology

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I wish that he >and Doug could work together. Hey, conflict can be productive too. Maybe we could do a thesis-antithesis act. Doug

Boeing Strike Agreement Reached

2000-03-17 Thread Nathan Newman
How important this strike settlement will be is an open question, but it may end up being extremely important for a number of reasons. 1. As a general white collar union win, it raises the profile and legitimacy of unions among a whole host of engineering and technical folks who might not have t

Fwd: SLATE NEWS: Fri., March 17, 2000

2000-03-17 Thread Jim Devine
from "Today's Papers" (SLATE, 3/17/00) : >The NY [TIMES] explains that the Vermont House vote will probably be >followed by Senate passage and become law soon, leaving the state with the >nation's most sweeping set of rights for same-sex couples. The areas of >parity with man-woman marriages in

whoops and an apology

2000-03-17 Thread michael
I am sorry. I was responding to Doug offlist, I thought. I still stand by what I said. I think that Louis is very bright and has a lot to offer. Louis himself mentions mood his mood swings on the list. I wish that he and Doug could work together. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department Ca

Re: Re: LM, Louis, and Free Speech

2000-03-17 Thread michael
I understand. My concern was about the last time when he used Zizek, I believe, to attack you. If you just read the post without understanding the context, it was just fine, but it was intended to goad you. I still think that he is very bright and has a lot to offer. I think that this one caug

Re: Re: LM, Louis, and Free Speech

2000-03-17 Thread Michael Yates
I have to agree with Doug here. Michael Yates Doug Henwood wrote: > Michael Perelman wrote: > > >Now, to the part that gets ugly. I, like many others on this list, was > >delighted to see Louis Proyect make an overture to Doug Henwood, and > >then Doug to respond in kind. That for some reason

Re: LM, Louis, and Free Speech

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Perelman wrote: >Now, to the part that gets ugly. I, like many others on this list, was >delighted to see Louis Proyect make an overture to Doug Henwood, and >then Doug to respond in kind. That for some reason, Lou lashed out >again. I will, as he suggested, ask him to sign off for a w

Re: LM, Louis, and Free Speech

2000-03-17 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Perelman wrote: > I might repeat again that I do not regard pen-l as a publication bound > by the principles of free speech, but rather as a space in which a > certain type -- or will not go into the specifics here -- the exchange > can take place. One of the difficulties with free spe

Erotica

2000-03-17 Thread Timework Web
In Eros and Civilization, Marcuse stated that in advanced industrial society, with its rationalization of authority as administration, "Rebellion now appears as the crime against the whole of human society and therefore as beyond reward and beyond redemption." That statement appears quaint after

Re: Re: Kosova/o

2000-03-17 Thread Jim Devine
Yoshie writes: > >>Should the CIA be allowed to plant stories, some of which lies, a few > of them true stories exaggerated for political purposes? I wrote: > >If we simply abolished the CIA, this issue would no longer be relevant. In > >any event, freedom of speech isn't supposed to apply to th

LM, Louis, and Free Speech

2000-03-17 Thread Michael Perelman
The thread covering the subjects of free speech and Living Marxism seemed to me to be pretty well intertwined. Once you start attempting to regulate speech and behavior, you can be certain that the regulations will come back to haunt you. Recall how the Sherman antitrust act was used against la

Re: Free Speach

2000-03-17 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 00-03-16 23:36:15 EST, you write: << Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. presented a "clear and present danger" as the only basis for curtailing the right of freedom of speech, without too much discussion of what constituted a clear and present danger. I think that many of Yoshi's

The Other Economics Conference session list; apologies for cross-posting

2000-03-17 Thread Alan Freeman
Here's the session list and details of the Association For Heterodox Economics conference at the end of June in London Alan ASSOCIATION FOR HETERODOX ECONOMICS THE OTHER ECONOMICS CONFERENCE, 2000 AT THE OPEN UNIVERSITY CONFERENCE CENTRE 344-354 Gray

Re: Re: Kosova/o

2000-03-17 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 00-03-16 18:44:34 EST, you write: << >On Thursday, March 16, 2000 at 14:32:47 (-0600) Carrol Cox writes: >> Perhaps it can't be >>done, but I am willing to argue that so far as possible in all left >>forums (marxist or non-m

Re: Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Keaney wrote: >To be critical of the verdict is not synonymous with supporting LM. Not at all. Neither is writing for LM an act of solidarity. I've made my differences with them pretty clear, and in the piece I did for them, I said I hadn't made my peace with capitalism - implying, of

Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Nathan Newman
>On Behalf Of Doug Henwood > > By the way, this outcome undermines the argument that LM is some > sinister tool of British capital, doesn't it? Only if you subscribe to a conspiracy-totalitarian version where British capital controls every institution, including the left-leaning reporters who br

Re: LM's Truth (was Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post)

2000-03-17 Thread Michael Keaney
K Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 17/3/00 2:14 pm, Doug Henwood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Michael Keaney wrote: > >> And speaking of questionable friends, among those rallying to the support of >> LM, or at the very least taking Guardian journ

Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Michael Keaney
K Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 17/3/00 1:51 pm, Doug Henwood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Michael Keaney wrote: > >> I recall correctly Louis Proyect has already highlighted the dubious >> activities of LM to PEN-L; in fact, didn't Doug Henwoo

Re: Re: LM's Truth (was Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post)

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Keaney wrote: >And speaking of questionable friends, among those rallying to the support of >LM, or at the very least taking Guardian journalist Ed Vulliamy to task for >attacking LM's defence of actions committed in the name of the Serbs, is no >less than Alfred Sherman, Who? > as a p

Re: Re: Re: Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Louis Proyect
> By the way, this outcome undermines the argument that LM is some > sinister tool of British capital, doesn't it? > > Doug LM is/was a bizarre libertarian magazine that had cut its ties to the left some time ago. Doug decided to publish in their pages fully knowing this. Meanwhile he derides A

Re: Re: Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Doug Henwood
Michael Keaney wrote: >I recall correctly Louis Proyect has already highlighted the dubious >activities of LM to PEN-L; in fact, didn't Doug Henwood get some stick for >having an article published there? Yes, and so what? "Dubious activities" are not enough of a justification to put a magazine

Re: Re: Kosova/o

2000-03-17 Thread William S. Lear
On Thursday, March 16, 2000 at 23:14:23 (-0500) Yoshie Furuhashi writes: >Bill: > >>In the above cases, those subject to the speech have no costless way >>to avoid it. I feel that the freedom to avoid the speech must also be >>present to grant protection to the speaker. > >You see, you are not de

Re: LM's Truth (was Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post)

2000-03-17 Thread Michael Keaney
K Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 17/3/00 11:14 am, Yoshie Furuhashi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > LM's coverage of the Yugoslav affairs & the role of imperialism in it is > absolutely truer than ITN's. Possibly. Over the piece I would not look to

LM's Truth (was Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post)

2000-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Michael K. wrote: >Before rushing headlong into a heroic defence of the "oppressed", it would >be worth investigating further what it is we are being asked to support. Because of the verdict on the ITN libel suit, LM can't post the article in question -- Thomas Deichmann's "The Picture That Fool

Re: Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Michael Keaney
K Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit on 17/3/00 9:54 am, Yoshie Furuhashi at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As you know, LM (formerly Living Marxism), the iconoclastic British > magazine edited by Mike Hume, was found guilty of libel against ITN, the > Briti

ITN's Address (was Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post)

2000-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Jim Heartfield wrote: >I don't have ITN's address to hand, but you can probably contact Channel >Four News (produced by ITN) through their website at www.channel4.co.uk * ITN is keen to hear your thoughts about our programmes and

Help Defend LM against ITN's Attempt to Crush It

2000-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
As you know, LM (formerly Living Marxism), the iconoclastic British magazine edited by Mike Hume, was found guilty of libel against ITN, the British news station. LM has been ordered to pay $580,000 U.S. This punishment is an attempt to crush the LM journalists for criticizing the ITN film about

Marx and Kapital

2000-03-17 Thread George Pennefather
In the opening paragraph of Capital Marx proclaims: The wealth of those societies in which the capitalist mode of production prevails, presents itself as "an immense accumulation of commodities," its unit being a single commodity. Our investigation must therefore begin with the analysis of a com

Re: Pro-ITN Libel Suit Post

2000-03-17 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
As you know, LM (formerly Living Marxism), the iconoclastic British magazine edited by Mike Hume, was found guilty of libel against ITN, the British news station. LM has been ordered to pay $580,000 U.S. This punishment is an attempt to crush the LM journalists for criticizing the ITN film about