Re: Neuroeconomics

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-06-22 06:43 -0400, Michael Hoover wrote: an article was published in the New York Times a couple of days ago about the new specialty of neuroeconomics. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/17/science/17NEUR.html It is described as a revolution in economics, and should go a long way towards

US: Outsourcing the occupation of Iraq

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Turkey offers 1,200-1,800 soldiers to assist US in Iraq The United States Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz declared that Turkey offered relief aid and other assistance in the rebuild of Iraq, as well as 1,200 to 1,800 troops. According to a news article published in influential

Re: Query from a Venezuelan (reply to Chris B.)

2003-06-23 Thread Grant Lee
From:Chris Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Coincidentally I was doing a Google search and came across this contribution to LBO-talk in October 2001 by Greg Schofield, which seems to put the issue well. [Unfortunately his email address no longer seems to be working. If anyone can forward me

What we don't know about 9-11

2003-06-23 Thread Paul Zarembka
is nicely summarized at http://xymphora.blogspot.com/ under the June 21 date. (Didn't the space shuttle diasaster get a serious investigation begin in within 2 hours!?) Paul *** Confronting 9-11, Ideologies of Race, and

Re: Query from a Venezuelan (reply to Chris B.)

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Grant Lee: My point was not to lionise free trade. The Venezuelan situation raises many questions in my mind. I mean, for example, protectionism, like land reform, is very far removed from a genuinely socialist/communist society, assuming that _is_ what Chavez and the Bolivarians want to achieve.

Marx on India

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
(LP: I will respond to this in a separate post.) Hallo Louis, we just recently came across your mail on Marxs writing on the British rule in India. On the background of ongoing discussions about a progressive imperialism we realized that quite a few former leftist scientists seemed to support

Suggestion from Paul Zarembka

2003-06-23 Thread zarembka
Hi PEN-L, Paul Zarembka visited the VoteToImpeach.org voting site, cast a ballot supporting impeachment, and is sending you this note asking you to participate by casting your vote in the campaign to impeach George W. Bush for having committed high crimes and misdemeanors. The war in Iraq,

Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Eugene Coyle
How about wheat, corn, soybeans, kilowatt-hours, cement, etc., etc., etc., etc.,etc., etc., etc., etc. How about vitamins, graphite electrodes, lysine, citric acid, gas turbines, large transformers? Pharmacueticals are a good example. Buying your drugs from Canada? Even the US Senate is thinking

Re: Marx on India

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Thomas Rathgeber wrote: In contrary to the statement, that Marx had only limited and outdated information on Indian society, a position you obviously agree with, we determined, that Marx had read most of the recently published books on India. His excerpts and some quotes in the articles show,

Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
There is another tweak to the idea. In some cases, modern information technology has reduced the marginal cost of some superficial forms of variety. So, for example, it magazines can print something personalized for you in their advertisements or automobile companies can vary the color scheme on

Re: Ashcroft wants to reach out to the people

2003-06-23 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Re: Ashcroft wants to reach out to the people Further, they reveal that angels have been declared an endagered species. Horrors! Not that many Bin Ladens can dance on the head of a pin. Dan Scanlan

Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] market competition fails again Is there empirical evidence that the problem of low marginal costs and high fixed costs is so important to the economy that it changes the over-all dynamics of the economy? BTW, I hope no-one is trying to reduce _all_ of the problems of the

Re: market competition fails again

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Jim, you are absolutely correct on both counts. I tried to make that point in my much-maligned book, The Natural Instability of Markets. On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:10:12AM -0700, Devine, James wrote: Is there empirical evidence that the problem of low marginal costs and high fixed costs is so

IMF: evict Argentians now

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, June 23,2003 The Homes of Argentines Are at Risk in I.M.F. Talks By LARRY ROHTER BUENOS AIRES, June 22 After a decade as renters, Ariel and Norma Brofman were finally able to buy a small house here four years ago. But if the Argentine government yields to International Monetary Fund

FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan Chris Burford writes: The so-called free trade of the present period is no more than international capital giving itself the freedom to price fix unhindered, the freedom to exercise its plans without let, the freedom to use one

WMD's/FCC

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Magazine, June 30, 2003 This Media Life WMD, FCC Tina Theres a reason big media has given Bush a pass on weapons of mass destruction, but it has to do with a Powell other than Colin. Plus: I love Tina Brown (really!). By Michael Wolff Im going to follow a thread linking the weapons of

Re: Complexity

2003-06-23 Thread Les Schaffer
Sabri wrote: That must be the Marsden effect. He has a tendency to put people to sleep. i've seen him give talks, and he's a fine, dynamic speaker. But this literary trend he is a part of is a dead end. I have one of his books with Hughes from 1976, A short course in fluid mechanics and it

Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread David S. Shemano
Michael Perelman writes: very interesting, but this sort of crap did not interest the right wing when Blacks were moved out. Give me a break. It wasn't the right-wing that supported urban renewal in the post-WWII era. A staple of conservative book lists used to be The Federal Bulldozer: A

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Bill Lear
On Monday, June 23, 2003 at 10:34:16 (-0700) Devine, James writes: ... that's right. It's important to distinguish free trade in theory (the general lowering of tariffs and quotas on imports and the end of export subsidies) and what it usually means in practice (free movement of capital but

Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] property rights David is partly right. The liberals often used eminent domain for social engineering. For example, the Chavez Ravine communities (populated almost entirely by Mexican-Americans) in Los Angeles were torn down as part of the urban renewal project flowing

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
Chris Burford writes: The so-called free trade of the present period is no more than international capital giving itself the freedom to price fix unhindered, the freedom to exercise its plans without let, the freedom to use one group of workers to compete against another on a world scale.

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: RE: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan I wanted to add a point: back in the 19th century, Germany and the US were able to successfully use tariffs to promote national economic development. But part of this success was the relatively small technological gap

Re: IMF: evict Argentinians now

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
On evictions in Argentina. Larry Rothers Brofmans (and many thousands like them) will not be seriously menaced before the last turn of elections, this year, takes place. Same can be said of the jeopardized owners of millions of hectares of land who were so indebted that their situation does

Re: IMF: evict Argentinians now

2003-06-23 Thread Louis Proyect
Louis Proyect wrote: On evictions in Argentina. This was from Nestor Gorojovsky, btw. As was probably obvious. -- The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org

Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
More hyperbolic shazbot from Business 2.0. The ad itself is interesting as actual art -- kind of the old game Mousetrap meets the Art Gallery of Ontario -- funded by an auto manufacturer. (www.business2.com/articles/mag/0,1640,50151,00.html) As actual advertising, it is another familiar novelty.

Auto-insurance monopoly and interest-free premium advances

2003-06-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Car insurance signs clear: bumpy road ahead Complex reasons for rising rates THOMAS WALKOM Toronto Star June 21 2003 Ontario's auto insurance system doesn't work. After three governments and almost 15 years of tinkering, that's the sad reality. The obvious problems are well known. Premiums are

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Chris Burford
At 2003-06-23 11:05 -0700, Jim Devine wrote: I wanted to add a point: back in the 19th century, Germany and the US were able to successfully use tariffs to promote national economic development. But part of this success was the relatively small technological gap between them and the market

EU v NA -- Hegel and frontiers

2003-06-23 Thread Kenneth Campbell
As to the recent multilateralist tensions... Is there some deeply entrenched reason that North America and Europe (whether the UK ever decides to be in that or not) have different reactions to world events -- including socialist ideas? Maybe a burn out factor, to use a colloquial term? For

Re: Complexity

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Les: i love a nice looking piece of math, in fact i tend to get it only if i can see the artwork effort which went into creating it. Between you and I, me too. Not only that, I pay great attention to make my mathematics writing look beautiful. Unlike most people believe, mathematics is not

Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
David, I don't know what sort of break you want. I doubt that anyone here supported the old Urban Renewal programs. I always heard them referred to as Negro Removal. If you mean that they were Great Society programs they were, but I think that all of us viewed them [those programs] with

Re: property rights

2003-06-23 Thread David S. Shemano
Michael Perelman writes: David, I don't know what sort of break you want. I doubt that anyone here supported the old Urban Renewal programs. I always heard them referred to as Negro Removal. If you mean that they were Great Society programs they were, but I think that all of us viewed them

FW: From New Zealand to Iraq; a reflection on Bremer's theory

2003-06-23 Thread Devine, James
Title: FW: From New Zealand to Iraq; a reflection on Bremer's theory [I wonder: what happened to the balance of political power in NZ that pushed and allowed Rogernomics? -- Jim] From: Jurriaan Bendien Bremer was quoted as saying: A fundamental component of this process will be to force

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Science World here in Vancouver runs a continuous loop of the 1987 Fischli and Weiss film The Way Things Go. The borrowings of the Honda ad from the film are obvious to anyone who has viewed both. What is also obvious -- and ominous -- are the non-borrowings: the autotalitarian elision of the

Sacramento ag expo

2003-06-23 Thread Seth Sandronsky
PEN-L: My rant on the Sacramento ag expo: http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles6/Sandronsky_Ag-Expo.htm Seth Sandronsky _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Carrol Cox
Tom Walker wrote: Science World here in Vancouver runs a continuous loop of the 1987 Fischli For another take on The Way Things Go, here's an excerpt from Arthur Danto: http://www.postmedia.net/999/fischweiss1.htm From Danto: the individual episodes seem to happen one after another

Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
I was wrong about trade Our aim should not be to abolish the World Trade Organisation, but to transform it George Monbiot Tuesday June 24, 2003 The Guardian A few years ago I would have raised at least two cheers. The US government, to judge by the aggressive noises now being made by its trade

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Or, digging deeper into the ruins... Homage to New York 1960 http://www.artmuseum.net/w2vr/archives/Kluver/00_Homage.html I asked Jean what I could do for him. Jean explained that he wanted to make a machine that destroyed itself and that he needed bicycle wheels... ...It was all over in 27

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Tom Walker
Carrol Cox wrote, This high and higher efforts that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos, must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapstick, 1915-1940. Yes, also constructivism and dada. As Walter Benjamin wrote:

Re: Saving the advertising industry in a fractured media-verse? Biz 2.0

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Tom Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Carrol Cox wrote, This high and higher efforts that Danto speaks of, leading to chaos, must owe something to Laurel and Hardy as well. And of course Chaplin's Modern Times. In fact to much of the great slapstick, 1915-1940.

Re: EU v NA -- Hegel and frontiers

2003-06-23 Thread Shane Mage
Kenneth Campbell wrote: ...BMW clearly stands ahead of NA car companies in trying to find a viable hydrogen car Daimler-Chrysler is, about half, a NA company. And it is far ahead of BMW in developing a viable hydrogen car--Daimler-Chrysler busses, powered by Ballard (another NA company) fuel

Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
Monbiot: So let us campaign not to scrap the World Trade Organisation, but to transform it into a Fair Trade Organisation, whose purpose is to restrain the rich while emancipating the poor. And let us ensure that when George Bush tries to sabotage the multilateral system in September, we

Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I would rather call for the strengthening of the International Labor Organization than the WTO. Any organization that emphasizes trade rather than people's lives is not likely to do much good. On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 08:27:06PM -0700, Sabri Oncu wrote: Monbiot: So let us campaign not to

Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would rather call for the strengthening of the International Labor Organization than the WTO. Any organization that emphasizes trade rather than people's lives is not likely to do much good. = I would

Re: Fw: Humphrey McQueen

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Grant, asked what I like about the Humphrey McQueen book using Coca-Cola as the prototypical multinational corporation. I haven't gone into it much farther since I read Michael Lewis's Moneyball yesterday. Although it deals with the management of the Oakland Athletics, it actually contains some

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Anthony D'Costa
Yes, the tech gap was much smaller between UK and Germany. Today it is much wider between OECD and the rest. But there are some areas where the gaps are much narrower, even if the economic base (market size, etc) are quite disparate. The IT industry would be a good example of this. But not

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the world. For example, most of the most famous American economists studied in Germany. The chemical industry was probably leading industry in the late 19th century. German chemical science led the world. Regarding Jim

Argentina

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
IMF Chief Meets with Troubled Argentina Reuters Monday, June 23, 2003; 11:05 PM By Hugh Bronstein BUENOS AIRES (Reuters) - The head of the International Monetary Fund began talks with Argentina's President Nestor Kirchner Monday, as the country's new government made a fresh start at pulling the

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the world. For males. Ian

Re: Marx on India

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
I have mentioned several times that I have written about Marx and India. My research led me to believe that Marx was more concerned about refuting Henry Carey than about India. Carey was trying to sabotage Marx's relationship with the New York Tribune. He believed that England was responsible

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Michael Perelman
You might have said CERTAIN males, since their system was hardly egalitarian. On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 09:19:28PM -0700, Ian Murray wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Besides tariffs, Germany developed the finest educational system in the world.

Re: FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [PEN-L] FW: [PEN-L] On free trade Re: Query from a Venezuelan You might have said CERTAIN males, since their system was hardly egalitarian.

Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Sabri Oncu
There is no promised land, there's evolution and us; an open-ended adventure. Ian Sure Ian, although there is also the _possibility_ of revolution! But this still remains true: How will we know when we are there? How will we know? Compare this against: And let us

Re: Monbiot on the WTO

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why can't we be againts both Bush and the WTO? = Most definitely we can. It's how to create collective action-imagination for designing institutions for the 21st century that is at issue given lefty norms.

PK

2003-06-23 Thread Ian Murray
[and when will he write TRAGEDY?] [NYTimes] June 24, 2003 Denial and Deception By PAUL KRUGMAN Politics is full of ironies. On the White House Web site, George W. Bush's speech from Oct. 7, 2002 - in which he made the case for war with Iraq - bears the headline Denial and Deception. Indeed.