Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-19 Thread Louis Proyect
Mike Ballard wrote: Neither wage-labour nor state ownership will ever lead to anything but capitalism. This is not very dialectical. -- The Marxism list: www.marxmail.org

Republican Party populism

2004-02-19 Thread Louis Proyect
Le Monde DIplomatique February 2004 A WAR AGAINST ELITES The America will vote for Bush The US is currently going through the peculiar process of deciding which Democratic presidential candidate will stand against

Howard Dean and Kim Jong Il

2004-02-19 Thread Louis Proyect
I have somewhat the same kinds of feelings about these two figures. Although there is little in their political philosophies that I can agree with, I get totally disgusted with how the mass media has framed them. In the first instance, we found the word angry pinned to him in over 868

Re: Prison statistics and empirical ethics

2004-02-19 Thread Devine, James
Joanna writes: ... I'd just like to note that correctional jobs remain some of the best paid unskilled work in the U.S. In fact, a lot of the folks who lost their manufacturing jobs wound up being prison guards. The job is relatively secure, well paid, and will not be outsourced. It creates jobs,

Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-19 Thread Devine, James
From: Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there a shadow of socialism or social democracy left in China? Ian answered: One party rule and the penal code... Of course, it depends what one means by the word socialism. When referring to a socio-economic system (mode of production), there

Ralph Nader answers the Nation Magazine

2004-02-19 Thread Louis Proyect
Counterpunch, February 19, 2004 Don't Run, Don't Run, Don't Run, Don't Run... Whither The Nation? By RALPH NADER The following letter is a response to An Open Letter to Ralph Nader, which appeared in the February 16 issue of The Nation. As I reread slowly your open letter, which kindly started

query

2004-02-19 Thread Devine, James
I am struggling to remember a name and it's bugging me, so I thought maybe bugging pen-l could help. (I tried googling...) What is the name of the Democratic Party candidate for President who ran in the early 1950s presidential primaries and was pretty successful in the primaries but lost -- and

Dean Kim

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Lou's note suggests an enormous difficulty in organizing by way of the Internet. Dean did a magnificent job of energizing young people who would have sat out the election. The media, together with the establishment parties, took him out in no time whatsoever, morphing him into a demon.

Re: query

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Perelman
could you mean the Repub. Harold Stassen? On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:05:59AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: I am struggling to remember a name and it's bugging me, so I thought maybe bugging pen-l could help. (I tried googling...) What is the name of the Democratic Party candidate for President

Re: query

2004-02-19 Thread Max B. Sawicky
he was a Republican. -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Perelman Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 12:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: query could you mean the Repub. Harold Stassen? On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:05:59AM -0800, Devine,

Re: query

2004-02-19 Thread Eugene Coyle
Jerry Brown? Oh, no, that was later. Devine, James wrote: I am struggling to remember a name and it's bugging me, so I thought maybe bugging pen-l could help. (I tried googling...) What is the name of the Democratic Party candidate for President who ran in the early 1950s presidential primaries

Re: query

2004-02-19 Thread Devine, James
that's him! by today's standards, he was a liberal Democrat! Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine -Original Message- From: Michael Perelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:11 AM To: [EMAIL

China: the peg

2004-02-19 Thread Eubulides
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=1518ncid=1518e=11u=/afp/20040219/bs_afp/china_forex_040219085615 Economists warn dramatic change in Chinese currency could spell disaster Thu Feb 19, 3:56 AM ET BEIJING, (AFP) - A growing number of economists are warning any dramatic change

the curse

2004-02-19 Thread Devine, James
an interesting article on the curse (and I don't mean the one that haunts the Red Sox) -- February 19, 2004/New York TIMES ECONOMIC SCENE Resources Form the Basis for Economic Growth By JEFF MADRICK POPULAR notion in economics today is that an abundance of natural resources is a curse for

Re: query

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/19/04 12:10PM could you mean the Repub. Harold Stassen? On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:05:59AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: I am struggling to remember a name and it's bugging me, so I thought maybe bugging pen-l could help. (I tried googling...) What is the name of the

US: pensions; IBM loses case

2004-02-19 Thread Eubulides
http://www.latimes.com IBM Loses Pension Ruling A judge says 140,000 employees and retirees are entitled to back pay in a 'cash-balance' case. By Kathy Kristof Times Staff Writer February 19, 2004 In a decision that could cost IBM Corp. billions of dollars, a federal judge has ruled that the

moore, less

2004-02-19 Thread Dan Scanlan
Weekend Edition February 14/15, 2004 Michael Moore's Lesser Party Clark Endorses Kerry By MICKEY Z. When War Criminal Wesley Clark dropped out of the race the other day, my thoughts were with Clueless Mikey Moore. He must have been heartbroken. Clark's smiling visage has vanished from

Re: Prison statistics and empirical ethics

2004-02-19 Thread joanna bujes
It's scarier to keep the prisons in the U.S. It's like having beggars on the street; of course we can afford to feed them and shelter them...but then we'd lose that deterrent quality. The point about prisons is that they make prisoners of both the people inside and the people outside. Joanna

Re: Brilliant analysis from a soft rock icon

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/18/04 03:37PM Washington Post, Tuesday, February 17, 2004 Killing the Music By Don Henley Simply put, artists must regain control, as much as possible, over their music. The writer is a singer and drummer with the Eagles and a founding member of the Recording Artists'

Re: new frontiers of property rights theory in China

2004-02-19 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Ballard wrote: Neither wage-labour nor state ownership will ever lead to anything but capitalism. I think that this is simplistic. State ownership of the means of production seems necessary to the rise of socialism and the eventual abolition

Money for nothin': some ideas about seigniorial capitalism as a background to a lowering dollar

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
I was thinking again about the implications of a lowering dollar for various types of US seigniorage, and I found this item: About 560 billion dollars in cash circulates through the world at present. About 70 percent of this cash is used beyond American borders [note: according to FRB, M1

Where did the money go ?

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Public diplomacy initiatives sponsored by the US government are severely under-funded. The Council on Foreign Relations Task Force Report states that, for every dollar spent on the military, the US spends seven cents on diplomacy. Source: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/FB19Ad01.html

Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
... the Chinese trade surplus from its export to the United States has a quadrupling effect on added US gross domestic product (GDP). In other words, for every dollar of US trade deficit in favor of China, the US economy registers $4 of additional GDP in value-adding services, such as marketing,

Re: Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... the Chinese trade surplus from its export to the United States has a quadrupling effect on added US gross domestic product (GDP). In other words, for every dollar of US trade deficit in favor of China, the US economy

Kerry: The Cause of Israel is the Cause of America

2004-02-19 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
* February 17, 2004 Another President for the Occupation? The Cause of Israel is the Cause of America By SEN. JOHN KERRY Editors' Note: We offer this unfettered pledge of fealty to Israel by John Kerry as yet more evidence that there's scarcely a dime's worth of difference between the major

Re: Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Well, if 60-75 cents of every $ of imports from China to the US are from-to US firms [intrafirm commodity chains] that are located there why should we insist on seeing contemporary trade accounting flows/identities as first and foremost having to do with nations simply by virtue of the path

bragging

2004-02-19 Thread MICHAEL YATES
Last night I met with John Bellamy Foster's undergraduate class in political economy at the University of Oregon. Among the texts John is using is my new book "Naming the System: Inequality and Work in the Global Economy." John thought the students would enjoy having the author of one of

Re: Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Shane Mage
... the Chinese trade surplus from its export to the United States has a quadrupling effect on added US gross domestic product (GDP). In other words, for every dollar of US trade deficit in favor of China, the US economy registers $4 of additional GDP in value-adding services, such as marketing,

Re: Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
These services add to the price of products--thus they do increase the *current dollar* GDP. But they add nothing at all to the *real* quantity of produced *final* goods and services. Thus they add nothing at all to *real* GDP. But what is real GDP in that case ? The American concept is

Re: Where did the money go ?

2004-02-19 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Council on Foreign Relations Task Force Report states that, for every dollar spent on the military, the US spends seven cents on diplomacy. Source: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/FB19Ad01.html

Re: Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Perelman
If this number is true -- I doubt it -- it also has to do with the low cost of the Chinese products. A $2 Nike shoe that sells for $120. If the shoe had been made in the U.S. for $40, it would have added $38 to the US GDP. On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 11:01:33PM -0500, Shane Mage wrote: ... the

The Powell melt-down symptom

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
Is Colin Powell melting down? It's hard to come up with another explanation for his jaw-dropping behavior last week before the House International Relations Committee. There he sat, recounting for the umpety-umpth time why, back in February 2003, he believed the pessimistic estimates about Iraqi

Re: The Powell melt-down symptom

2004-02-19 Thread Mike Ballard
--- Jurriaan Bendien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Colin Powell melting down? Suddenly, he stopped and glared at a Democratic committee staffer who was smirking and shaking his head. Are you shaking your head for something, young man back there? Powell grumbled. Are you part of the

Re: Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Shane Mage
These services add to the price of products--thus they do increase the *current dollar* GDP. But they add nothing at all to the *real* quantity of produced *final* goods and services. Thus they add nothing at all to *real* GDP. But what is real GDP in that case ? The American concept is

Re: Kerry: The Cause of Israel is the Cause of America

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
In this difficult time we must again reaffirm we are enlisted for the duration--and reaffirm our belief that the cause of Israel must be the cause of America--and the cause of people of conscience everywhere. Bear in mind that Kerry is the wealthiest member of Congress, and worth around $550

Re: Import-led development as a source of economic growth ?

2004-02-19 Thread Jurriaan Bendien
If I buy a dozen large brown eggs, the net contribution to GDP in constant (say 1990) dollars is what I would have had to pay for them in 1990. It makes no *real GDP* difference at all how much of the price I actually paid went to the farmer and how much to various middlemen and indirect

Re: bragging

2004-02-19 Thread Mike Ballard
--- MICHAEL YATES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Among the texts John is using is my new book Naming the System: Inequality and Work in the Global Economy. Go Michael (both of yuz)! Keep on keepin' on. You and John and the rest of you lurking out there are really doing something worthwhile. Don't

Re: bragging

2004-02-19 Thread Devine, James
Mike Yates writes: In the recently published Economic Report of the President, Bush's economists ... re-dated the beginning of the last downturn, to make it occur in the Clinton administration. isn't it the NBER, not the Prez's Council of Economic Advisors, that dates downturns? In any

Re: bragging

2004-02-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Robert Hall still chairs the committee. He was a big honcho in Reagan's transition team. On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 09:26:03PM -0800, Devine, James wrote: Mike Yates writes: In the recently published Economic Report of the President, Bush's economists ... re-dated the beginning of the last

Re: Kerry: The Cause of Israel is the Cause of America

2004-02-19 Thread Shane Mage
Editors' Note: We offer this unfettered pledge of fealty to Israel by John Kerry as yet more evidence that there's scarcely a dime's worth of difference between the major political candidates of both parties on the life-and-death issues of our time. This is not the issue on which to come down hard

Re: Kerry: The Cause of Israel is the Cause of America

2004-02-19 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Editors' Note: We offer this unfettered pledge of fealty to Israel by John Kerry as yet more evidence that there's scarcely a dime's worth of difference between the major political candidates of both parties on the life-and-death issues of our time. This is not the issue on which to come down hard