Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Drewk
On Feb. 9, the Brecht Forum informed the teacher of its course on Capital, Marx's Capital and Alternatives to Capital, Andrew Kliman, that it does not want him to teach there in the future, and that it would not object to his leaving before the current course was over. The expulsion letter came in

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss
Response: This was the same kind of excuse given for Stalin by some intellectuals during the 30s and 40s. The one thing missing in Medvedev's interview is a class analysis. Once upon a time, Medvedev was associated with Eurocommunism and Bukharin. His PR for Putin seems to reflect diminished

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin) - edited

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss
Roy Medvedev = brilliant historian who, for some reason, seems to support the most popular Russian leader since the tsarist era, you know, the guy who has presided over a more rapid growth of living standards than any General Secretary of the Soviet Union ever. Louis Proyect = a guy who thinks

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population. Gorby adores Putin. 90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay marriage,

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin) - edited

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Doss wrote: Louis Proyect = a guy who thinks that Dagestanis like being invaded by mujaheedin from Chechnya and similar absurdities, probably believes that Ivan Shapovalov is a Bolshevik leader, and, despite knowing absolutely jack about contemporary Russia, somehow thinks he has the right

Oil shock? - a thought

2004-05-14 Thread Julio Huato
Paul Krugman has been worried lately about a possible oil shortage: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/14/opinion/14KRUG.html?th. He focuses on the recessionary and inflationary impact on the U.S. But China should be a bigger concern (I mean, under the radical assumption that one Chinese is just as

Samuel Huntington's racism

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
NPQ, Spring 2004 Huntington and the Mask of Racism Carlos Fuentes, the Mexican novelist, is a member of NPQs advisory board. Translation by Thomas D. Morin, Professor of Hispanic Studies, University of Rhode Island, Kingston. Mexico CityThe best Indian is a dead Indian. The best nigger is a

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/14/2004 7:52:28 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population. Gorby adores Putin.90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what theythink, just as I defer customarily to what the

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Glad to see you remain the same alienating asshole as ever, Lou. Mr Doss has done nothing but offer his own opinion and plenty of interesting material. I see no problem or a need to cut him down. (All your hackneyed adjectives about his posts are a reminder why you don't have a book contract.)

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss
Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population. Gorby adores Putin. 90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to defer to what they think, just as I defer customarily to what the 90th percentile of the American population thinks about undocumented workers, gay

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
Chris Doss wrote: You'd better make some attempt to understand _why_ they think what they think --- The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/14/2004 8:40:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This bureaucracy - we are talking about real people, receiving money and spending money or helping todrive reproduction and the realization of surplus value - profits. No amount of sloganeering on the part

Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I would not like us to get involved in internal disputes. It will lead to no good. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Chris Doss
Why fight staw men when the economic questions loom large. Because that's easier and doesn't require thought. Further comment below. Putin is not going to defeat the bureaucracy. George W. is not going to defeat the bureaucracy and without question Mr. Stalin did not and could not defeat

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
If you want to ignore somebody, go ahead. Making your feelings public adds nothing. On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 06:03:41PM +0400, Chris Doss wrote: Actually, Gorbachev says the same thing. So does 90% of the population. Gorby adores Putin. 90 percent? That cinches it. I will now have to

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
Wow. I have not seen a threat degenerate so fast before. Both Lou and Ken should cool it. I invited Chris here because he does have a lot of information on Russia. I do not share his views about Putin, but I still learn from him. People are welcome to disagree with him, but to announce you

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Kenneth Campbell
Grin... Michael... I don't mind the thread. Someone has to point out what Louis does... Which is divide. Mr.Doss has provided a fresh and direct perspective, so what? It was like your invitation to that Chicago right wing lawyer chap... We learn thorugh being in contact. As for the asshole

Re: Background to Berg Beheading

2004-05-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Internet Hate Group Targeted Michael S. Berg, Company by the Sandwichman In the interest of wider exposure, I linked to Tom's PEN-l posting and MaxSpeak blog entry: http://montages.blogspot.com/2004/05/here-is-enemy-montage-at-work.html. Juxtapose facts into a montage, and set readers to work.

Bremer the prophet

2004-05-14 Thread k hanly
Source: Lucy May, Homeland security adviser speaks to local business leaders, Business Courier, 25 February 2003, http://cincinnati.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2003/02/24/daily23.html Bremer estimated a war would be over within four to six weeks but said the process of rebuilding Iraq

Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Drewk
Michael, Why do you characterize this as an internal dispute, rather than a matter of freedom of expression? Does this mean you will not be supporting my right to teach and not to have my course announcements tampered with? Andrew -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Capital class suppressed, teacher expelled

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
I just don't think that it will help the list. I am trying to calm down the Putin flame now. I have no problem with your right to teach. On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:55:21AM -0400, Drewk wrote: Michael, Why do you characterize this as an internal dispute, rather than a matter of freedom of

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Perelman
Just keep the personal stuff off list. I agree with you about Chris. On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 11:13:37AM -0400, Kenneth Campbell wrote: Grin... Michael... I don't mind the thread. Someone has to point out what Louis does... Which is divide. Mr.Doss has provided a fresh and direct

News source on Iraq

2004-05-14 Thread k hanly
This is a US govt. funded news source but it nevertheless is a treasure of world press reports on Iraq. It includes quite a few videos from Islamic militants as well. With translations. http://tides.carebridge.org/ Cheers, Ken Hanly

The perfect magazine for Hitchens to write for

2004-05-14 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Times, May 14, 2004 Vanity Fair Editor Got $100,000 for Suggesting a Movie By DAVID CARR and SHARON WAXMAN Graydon Carter, editor in chief of Vanity Fair, received a $100,000 payment from Universal Studios in 2003 for suggesting years earlier that the book A Beautiful Mind'' be made into a

Re: Roy Medvedev interview (on Putin)

2004-05-14 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 5/14/2004 9:23:36 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the defining event of the past 4-5 years in Russia, in terms of domestic politics, has been the struggle between the bureaucracy and big business, the so-called "oligarchy." Not that the

Cuban response to new Bush offensive

2004-05-14 Thread michael a. lebowitz
Date Index Re: Marx Conference in Havana just completed by Michael Perelman 14 May 2004 02:00 UTC Thread Index Thank you, Michael, for the excellent report. Thank you. I think people missed a good one. I understand that Cuba was trying to draw back from the dollar economy a bit

Once a Suspect, Always a Suspect?

2004-05-14 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
It turns out that a story of degrees of separation fit for satire has killed not only thousands of Iraqis, hundreds of US and allied troops, and others but may also have been a factor in Nick Berg's 13-day detention in Iraq, which Nick's father Michael Berg believes has led to Nick's death, making

Re: Samuel Huntington's racism

2004-05-14 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/14/04 9:16 AM NPQ, Spring 2004 Huntington and the Mask of Racism Carlos Fuentes, the Mexican novelist, is a member of NPQ's advisory board. Translation by Thomas D. Morin, Professor of Hispanic Studies, University of Rhode Island, Kingston. Mexico CityThe best Indian is a

Anything follows from a contradiction

2004-05-14 Thread k hanly
therefore the US will stay no matter what...unless it decides to bail out is in its interest. Cheers, Ken Hanly When first asked by House International Relations Committee members whether an interim Iraqi government could force U.S. troops to leave, Grossman stressed that Iraqi leaders wanted