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of this is exogenous, bad weather.
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I hope that Marty's
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doubts and fears.
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almost nothing about her politics.
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On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:07:44 -0700 (PDT) Gerald Levy
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The current (8/27) edition of the _Village Voice_ has an article by
Richard Gehh called "The Flaming Path" which PEN-Lers may want to check
out. The article, subtitled "What happens when rhetoric becomes
On Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Gerald Levy
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Yeah, well that's barely the half of it.
Barkley: does that mean that you *stayed* [!] on that ...[undead] list? Do
you also enjoy sleeping on a bed of nails and walking
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suggest that it is
loudly supporting the PCP war effort and I saw nothing
about support for any "peace" proposals. Go figure.
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Shawgi,
Do you have any comment on the death sentence having
been imposed on Chun Doo Hwan? Do you see no change in the
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to have fewer if the bennies were higher?
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On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:19:51 -0700 (PDT) SHAWGI TELL
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What kind of change in the ROK are you referring to Rosser Jr, John Barkley?
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It is no longer a military dictatorship
On Thu, 29 Aug 1996 05:36:54 -0700 (PDT) SHAWGI TELL
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What kind of change in the ROK are you referring to Rosser Jr
about
the sentencing of former presidents Chun and Roh in the
ROK. Are there any movements for ANYTHING allowed in the
DPRK, or is it definitely already heaven on earth?
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wly installed reform
leaders after awhile. The current behavior of the
democratically elected Kim Young Sam seems to fit into this
pattern of a drift back to authoritarianism after a
declaration of reforms.
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Please, Shawgi, tell us: Are South Korean students
applying in droves for refugee status in Canada? We are
all dying to know how they have been fascistically rejected.
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a later time. Who realizes now
that Baroque dance suites were once considered shockingly
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overdetermination, :-) (gotta get some laughs after all the
flooding and deaths around here with Hurricane Fran).
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has died and the last river has been poisoned
and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money."
(Cree Indian saying...circa 1909)
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o block the
"North Korea Page" are in vain since no equipment has yet been
invented capable of blocking it out.
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everywhere. They are confident of a great future in which they will
live independent, full and creative lives."
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vist. She was also an important voice of
sanity and moderation on the frequently lunatic marxism
lists. She will be deeply missed by many of us.
Barkley Rosser
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V. asks if anyone knows of any empirical evidence concerning
the existence of Giffen goods.
I am reasonably certain there is NO such evidence. See my
co-authored article on Giffen and the Irish Potato Famine in the 1995
JEI.
Terry McDonough
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Correction to my last paragraph: I meant to say, "I
don't know whether or not there has ever been a static
market demand curve for anything that sloped up..."
Barkley
On Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:33:39 -0700 (PDT) "Rosser Jr, John
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"education" campaign, I think
the purpose of a discussion list like PEN-L is being seriously abused.
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ive this one up?
Blair
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r postings on the Ontario
provincial government's doings, well, I suggest you keep
those to the Buffalo Education Dept. and readers in Toronto
respectively,:-).
Barkley Rosser, your list annoyance.
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not likely we will ever see
this prize given to anyone who is engaged in feminist economics!!
Doug Orr
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im -- or anyone else.
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questions or
makes comments on your postings is as big a whatever as you
claim they are. Being a bit more responsive on substantive
comments on your various postings would gain you a lot of
good will, if you are interested in having it.
Barkley Rosser
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I think that we should recognize that Doug
Henwood is the first "post-pomo" thinker, :-).
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of
this. No, workers are not going to get organized based on
reading _Grundrisse_ any more than are on reading Derrida.
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, but not
for a long time. Too boring.
Barkley Rosser
On Tue, 24 Dec 1996 15:04:11 -0500 (EST) Louis N Proyect
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case in general. Neither of the Louises is quite
willing to face up to the fact that market socialism
can
d the last river has been poisoned
and the last fish been caught will we realise we cannot eat money."
(Cree Indian saying...circa 1909)
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r" (someone who
works at a British bank and smokes Brit ciggies), aka
"John Rosser" (gets calls from fire insurance
salesmen), aka "Barney Ross," (a drunken, raving
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es is quite
willing to face up to the fact that market socialism
can and does work, if implemented properly. I think
this has something to do with Louis P.'s outburst on
pen-l, and was not due just to his obvious envy of
academic economists.
Happy holidays, everybody!
Barkley Rosser
rightwing government in place.
Milosevic, whatever his faults, is not a US puppet.
Paul Phillips,
Economics,
University of Manitoba
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ve externalities as corollaries...
Thanks,
David Smith
David N. Smith
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University of Kansas
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(913) 842-2793
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reduction? Are the
problems of the Third World the result of information asymmetry?
Doug
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develop in another manner. The south Korean authorities must act
with prudence and unconditionally accept our demand at once.
Reprinted from the Korean Central News Agency.
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historical
Nazi is being sanitized and even heroized, first in a
Booker Prize-winning novel, and now in an incredibly lavish
film. Furthermore the film suggests a moral/political
equivalence of the Germans and the Nazis. Is this a sign
of the times we live in?
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en caught will we realise we cannot eat money."
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uis Godena continue to put a cork in your mouth, while I
stick to the things I know best.
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t in Belgrade for the first time
Saturday, carrying their flags.
In Novi Sad, to the northwest, 10,000 students
protested for the fifth day.
This material is copyrighted and may not be republished
without permission of the originating newspaper or wire
service. NewsHound is a service of the San Jo
Statistical Abstract, I shall willingly submit, :-).
Barkley Rosser
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:43:26 -0800 (PST) Doug Henwood
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At 12:47 PM 1/10/97, Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote:
I agree that 2.5% is fairly puny, although this may be
understating things, as I have suggested
are
doing now? That was my point, Ru, :-).
Barkley Rosser
PS: Eat well, :-) :-) :-).
On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:53:35 -0800 (PST) Doug Henwood
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I also
note that the US is way ahead of everybody else in this
area an
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stow who argues in
terms of Kondratieff upwswing."
Rakesh
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"formalism."
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"formalism."
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, "Wheels of Time and the interdependence of
value change in America," _Journal of Interdisciplinary
History_, 1973, 3, 649-683.
Yet another good general review can be found in J.
Reinders, _Long Waves in Economic Development_, 1990,
Aldershot: Edward Elgar. Oh yes, the latest Edward Elgar
volume on long waves is fresh out. Happy hunting everybody!
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anism, we are all
without hope.
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iously, they do become a cover for justifying the
reserve army in the hands of most economists, but their
essential emptiness is becoming increasingly apparent.
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a counter-revolutionary, an agent of the imperialist bourgeoisie, a
social fascist, a traitor.
Jerry
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information on this than I do.
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erfectly willing to cut social
spending, move towards balanced budgets, and support free
trade.
Barkley Rosser
On Thu, 17 Apr 1997 13:22:26 -0700 (PDT) "Max B. Sawicky"
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Subject: [P
On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Doug Henwood
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Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote:
After the recent events I issued a challenge to Adolfo
on M-I (asking members of LL to forward it) to explain how
these "CIA conspirators" ended up dead. No response ca
e.
I concur with Adolfo when he says that those disagreeing with us
on this are also a bunch of losers of incredible proportions
- particularly the Trots.
Jay Miles / Peru Support Committee/Detroit
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o overthrow Peruvian capitalism since it lacks a clear
understanding of how to reach the urban working-class. However, to give
credit where credit is due, the PCP and MRTA are doing more to liberate Peru
than any "progressive social scientist" can ever hope to.
Louis Proyect
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Say one has a real poster boy of pure
classical liberalism with a libertarian bent.
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strategies
for maximizing the play of individual "will" (spectres of Nietzsche....).
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ct the views
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A friend has asked me about alternatives to the Gini coefficient. I
seem to remember a paper titled 'On the Measurement of Inequality', but I
can't find it in my files. Anyone have suggestions?
Roger
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ot; The query might have sounded less vicious
circle-like if it was given to us as "What would socialist idealogy
be ?" or even "What kinds of subjectivists would reproduce socialism?"
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And then there is the problem that the behavioral roles that markets
force us to play are hardly the kind of lesson we hope our children
learn in play school -- that is equitable cooperation -- rather than
advancing our own interests at the expense of others.
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ascia dir le genti." (Go your own way
and let people talk.) -- K. Marx, paraphrasing Dante A.
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ocialisms to enforce "selflessness." A real
problem.
6) I await with interest his comments on what is
of value in game theory.
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duct of class struggle. I
will have more to say on this probably tomorrow or the next day.
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t of the logic and morality contained in the
tracts of left economists, however. It is a product of class struggle. I
will have more to say on this probably tomorrow or the next day.
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-Simon was actually the father of central
planning, not so utopian either. It is Hayek, of all
people, who fingered him on that one.
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ke to
see get their comeuppance.
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Bruno Hzladj. Bruno loves to put people on,
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on for profit.
Cheers, Ken Hanly
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, and most
references to it recently refer to that book. Paul A.
claims it was used earlier. An actual quote with page
number and date would be nice if that is to be
maintained. I would be grateful to anybody who can
establish when and by whom the term was coined.
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on its foreign debts.
But, as long as there is command planning, the central
planners do have the ability, if they desire to exercise
it, to control the budget of the enterprise. This
disappears under indicative planning.
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alist planning,
maybe we are being utopian in the bad sense. I confess that I think
that market socialism can not work.
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laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not
certain; as far as they are certain, they really do not refer to
reality." -- Albert Einstein.
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of Yugoslavian workers looking for employment in Germany?
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nefits of federation for the different republics and of the system's
advantages for the development republics. Slovene nationalists also
underestimated the difficulties in trying to compete at world prices in a
capitalist market in crisis.
(From Catherine Samary's "Yugoslavia Dismembered" (Monthly Review, 1995)
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extends to borrowing too much, irrespective of any official
state guarantee of the loans themselves.
Barkley Rosser
On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 01:24:17 -0800 (PST) Paul Altesman
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Paul,
Guess you don't know w
usual forces?
Paul Altesman
At 03:07 PM 3/26/97 -0800, Rosser Jr, John Barkley wrote:
The question of Yugoslav indebtedness is a complex one
with Susan Woodward/Louis Proyect being at least partly
correct that a lot of easy credit was given in the 50s
essentially to pay
involved in political action in
places as diverse as Belgium and Ecuador. It is applicable everywhere, just
as the utopian schemas of the 19th century were, and by the same token
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ad a lot of
them, but I am always on the lookout for new ones. If you have any favorites,
let me know.
Michael Yates
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at JUCEPLAN.
My utopian ideas are NOT UNBASED in 20th century real world experiences.
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something along its lines is a lot more
palatable and likely in the US than something like
centrally planned socialism of the Cockshott-Cottrell
variety or even Hahnel-Albert participatory planning.
Barkley Rosser
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If _Monthly Review_ were
to have an article written about a conference of Austrian
economists, would you insist that they have Greg Ransom do
it, or alternatively somebody utterly bland with no known
views on Austrian economics or anything else? I think
licity, including in
the bourgeois press. There were also public meetings and articles.
None of this publicity or notoriety has _yet_ happened regarding
_Sozialismus_. The "classical Marxists" who were loud critics of
"Social Text" have suddenly become silent about this newest
scandal.
Jerry
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Heck, I'll butt in here. Louis P. asked me off list
to use my near minimal influence with Jerry to get him to
calm down. snip
Please calm down, Jerry.
Although Michael would prefer that I not continue this thread
, but that I
have no control over anybody on the list.
I do agree with Louis that personal feuds have no place on pen-l.
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to work? Do we
have everybody constantly voting on everything all the time?
(BTW, you can see that I made it home, or at least to
the office, :-).)
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ot;socialist" to stand for economic
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to immediately embrace a government role!
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to immediately embrace a government role!
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is
doing very well and kudos to Michael P. for his good
management of it.
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