Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-09 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: In short, a politically sensible compromise between the Nader/Camejo and Cobb/LaMarche factions within the Green Party would have been Camejo's proposal for free states, i.e., the Green Party at the national convention endorsing both campaigns and leaving each state Green

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-08 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/04 3:50 PM What kind of national party runs 50 separate campaigns? Why not go down to the county level and run 3000 campaigns? Doug questionable whether u.s. has any national parties at all... in any event, electoral college makes for 50 state elections for prez so

DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Louis Proyect
NY Press, July 7, 2004 DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN? The pacifists stick to their guns, and then some. By Matt Taibbi Well, thank god the Green Party came to its senses last week and nominated David Cobb to run for the presidency, ending that whole ugly Ralph Nader episode. I was afraid I might

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Dan Scanlan
NY Press, July 7, 2004 DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN? Right on!

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Shane Mage
Louis Proyect channels Matt Taibbi: ...For those of you who didn't follow this story, Cobb snatched the Green Party nomination away from Nader last week largely through his embrace of the so-called safe states strategy... Only those who didn't follow this story will be taken in by this lie. Cobb

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Shane Mage wrote: Only those who didn't follow this story will be taken in by this lie. Cobb didn't snatch the Green Party nomination away from Nader for the simple reason that Nader didn't want the GP nomination and made it very clear that he would reject it if offered. This is specious

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Shane Mage
Louis Proyect wrote: If I could understand the above, I imagine that I'd take vigorous exception.

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
At 2:01 PM -0400 7/7/04, Louis Proyect wrote: Nader *did* seek their endorsement, but the realos indicated almost immediately after the 2000 election that they were ready to come home to the Democrats. If they had instead felt like the Nader vote was wind in the sails of the Green Party (which it

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Doug Henwood
Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: In short, a politically sensible compromise between the Nader/Camejo and Cobb/LaMarche factions within the Green Party would have been Camejo's proposal for free states, i.e., the Green Party at the national convention endorsing both campaigns and leaving each state Green

Re: DONKEY. ELEPHANT. CHICKEN?

2004-07-07 Thread Perelman, Michael
For the most part, we have been spared the agonies of the choice between Kerry and Nader on this list, with the threat of another ghoulish four years of Bush. No attractive choice lies ahead of us. I once spent a couple hours alone with Nader. I don't think he had the slightest interest in me