Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Mathew Forstater
Both of the quotes-- deficits crowd out private investment and deficits cause high interest rates (more specifically there that lowering deficits cause lower interest rates) are pure Summers, but you are right that "pre-Keynesian" is the correct general label. Bob Eisner and Bill Vickrey spent

Re: Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Ted Winslow
Mat Forstater asked: why would Brad contribute to perpetuating such theoretically, empirically, historically, unsupportable views, when he surely knows better? I don't know about Brad, but the general problem of the continuing dominance of pre-Keynesian ideas in the thinking of economists

Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Brad De Long
Later, he writes that "Lowered interest rates [in the 1990s] driven in part by the shrinking of annual budget deficits..." According to the usual sources on interest rates, the 1990s real interest rates were high, not low. I wrote "lower*ed*" for a reason... Brad DeLong

Re: Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Brad De Long
Both of the quotes-- deficits crowd out private investment and deficits cause high interest rates (more specifically there that lowering deficits cause lower interest rates) are pure Summers, but you are right that "pre-Keynesian" is the correct general label. Nah. In the context of the 1980s

Re: Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Jim Devine
sorry. Later, he writes that "Lowered interest rates [in the 1990s] driven in part by the shrinking of annual budget deficits..." According to the usual sources on interest rates, the 1990s real interest rates were high, not low. I wrote "lower*ed*" for a reason... Brad DeLong Jim Devine

Re: Re: Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Jim Devine
Mat writes: Both of the quotes-- deficits crowd out private investment and deficits cause high interest rates (more specifically there that lowering deficits cause lower interest rates) are pure Summers, but you are right that "pre-Keynesian" is the correct general label. Brad ripostes: Nah.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Brad De Long
(BTW, before I start my diatribe, notice that higher interest rates (Brad's topic) are not the same thing as "crowding out" of private investment (Mat's topic). This is especially true because government deficits encourage private spending via the accelerator effect.) Very true... In the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Brad DeLong's column

2000-04-06 Thread Jim Devine
I wrote: In the process, the second problem with Brad's riposte was revealed, i.e., the assumption that the Fed has the _power_ to target real GDP. Brad says: They think they do (albeit imperfectly, with substantial errors) well, I think I'm the king of England (albeit imperfectly, with