Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions (where tog et the historical stats?)

2000-10-11 Thread Dennis Robert Redmond
On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Mikalac Norman S NSSC wrote: assuming the statements below are based on hard facts, how to get ahold of these historical per capita GDP data in one or two places for as many countries as possible as far back as possible? The OECD has done country surveys for most of

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions (where to get the historical stats?)

2000-10-10 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
geez, 550 msgs awaiting me this morning. maybe i should sleep in the office on weekends? assuming the statements below are based on hard facts, how to get ahold of these historical per capita GDP data in one or two places for as many countries as possible as far back as possible? i tried UN,

RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions (would like more social indicators too)

2000-10-10 Thread Mikalac Norman S NSSC
, 2000 9:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PEN-L:2764] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions Dennis: Whence this fetishism of Eastern European state-party father-figures? Per capita GDP in Poland, Slovenia and the Czech Republic is higher now than in 1989, and many of these economies

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-07 Thread Louis Proyect
Dennis: Whence this fetishism of Eastern European state-party father-figures? Per capita GDP in Poland, Slovenia and the Czech Republic is higher now than in 1989, and many of these economies are growing pretty fast. Inequality is higher now as well. Socialists are not interested in economic

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relaciĆ³n a [PEN-L:2764] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolut, el 7 Oct 00, a las 9:01, Louis Proyect dijo: Dennis: Whence this fetishism of Eastern European state-party father-figures? Per capita GDP in Poland, Slovenia and the Czech Republic is higher now than in 1989, and many of these

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-07 Thread JKSCHW
In a message dated 10/7/00 9:07:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inequality is higher now as well. Socialists are not interested in economic growth for the same of economic growth. We are interested in social justice. Not all socialists: "What is a 'fair

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-07 Thread Dennis Robert Redmond
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: president of the new Republic. To the best of my knowledge, there has been no EU money for the environment. etc. Probably because Slovenia is a fairly wealthy country, and can finance these things themselves. The EIB, though, is making money

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread Louis Proyect
Louis has joined the "Hail the Red Army in Afghanistan" brigade. It took 10 years for the CIA to bring out the population of Serbia against Slobo, but they did it, though good socialists should have offered the Milosovic regime critical support. I am amazed. --jks --- Actually I have made my

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread Brad DeLong
Louis has joined the "Hail the Red Army in Afghanistan" brigade. Well I'm of the "Hail the Red Army in Afghanistan" brigade: compared to the Taliban "Really Existing Socialism" is the lesser evil, and worth supporting... Brad DeLong

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread JKSCHW
The US and the USSR are indeed both intolerant of dissident views, but the Yugoslav model--which I, as market socialist defend and Louis has savaged for years as antisocialist, essentially capitalist, a betrayal, etc, ad nauseum--as been dead in the Yugoslav rump republic for almosta decade.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread phillp2
Dennis, Yes, Slovenia has done quite nicely -- but then there has not been a father figure for years. To the extent there was, he became the president of the new Republic. To the best of my knowledge, there has been no EU money for the environment. etc. Paul Phillips, Economics,

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread Ken Hanly
: Re: Economic revolutions Louis has joined the "Hail the Red Army in Afghanistan" brigade. It took 10 years for the CIA to bring out the population of Serbia against Slobo, but they did it, though good socialists should have offered the Milosovic regime critical support. I am ama

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions

2000-10-06 Thread Ken Hanly
as if this is a closed issue. Cheers, Ken Hanly - Original Message - From: Brad DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 4:00 PM Subject: [PEN-L:2730] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Economic revolutions Louis has joined the "Hail the Red Army in Afghan