Here's the article that I promised to post on the World Social Forum.
It appeared on ZNET's
activism list. Warning: it's long, but, I think, worthwhile.
Peter Hollings
SOME REFLECTIONS ON THE GLOBAL JUSTICE MOVEMENT
(And an eye-witness account of the World Social Forum)
Yo comrades
Hi
This article is very long for the list. It is better to post a small
part and a URL if possible.
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Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
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Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism
This article is very long for the list. It is better to post a small
part and a URL if possible
will need your address, too.)
Peter Hollings
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Emrich, Editor, info-commons.org
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Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism
Louis wrote:
B-52's raining Volkswagen size bombs on peasant villages recruited me to
socialism, not elegant descriptions of the benefits of a future world.
I do not see how the one need exclude the other, and it really avoids the
question of what would recruit young people to socialism these
Jurriaan wrote:
The very term recruiting is problematic, because this suggests
that people are being conscripted into a military service under a Marx
commander, a Marxist boss. And this is one of the factors which gave rise to
autonomism in the first place.
This is a very good point. The appeal of
This is a very good point. The appeal of autonomism is that you can call
yourself a revolutionary without actually forming organizations and taking
responsibility for anything. This was also the appeal of the New Left in
the 1960s.
But, with due respect, even there I think you are mistaken.
] Reply to Louis Proyect on revolutionary socialism
Louis wrote:
B-52's raining Volkswagen size bombs on peasant villages recruited me
to
socialism, not elegant descriptions of the benefits of a future world.
I do not see how the one need exclude the other, and it really avoids
the
question of what
In a message dated 3/16/2004 10:15:20 AM Central Standard Time, lnp3
@PANIX.COM writes:
Jurriaan wrote:
The very term recruiting is problematic, because this suggests
that people are being conscripted into a military service under a Marx
commander, a Marxist boss. And this is one of the factors
There are going
to be bosses. Leadership or being boss means you have accepted - one way
or
another, responsibility to do something.
Okay, so now there are going to be bosses. The question raised however is:
how do they become bosses, by what process ? How do they establish their
leadership ?
Peter,
Thanks for your comment, which is encouraging. I've never really had any
despair about political prospects or the lack of them. I don't care about
that, it's none of my concern. For most of the 1980s and some years in the
1990s I was involved in various groups and campaigns on and off. But
In a message dated 3/16/2004 4:35:06 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Okay, so now there are going to be bosses. The question raised however is:how do they become bosses, by what process? How do they establish theirleadership ?To explicate the problem simply, let's just take
I think that this thread has gone on enough.
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Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
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