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Anthony D'Costa wrote: But what he said was that Chandra Babu Naidu the laptop toting chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, who was recently ousted in the elections, transferred massive water to the urban, high tech driven city, at the expense of the rural folks. This story hasn't been reported in the media AFAIK. It's possible I missed it. But how exactly he did this? The water table is drastically falling in the southern region and virtually all major southern cities (Hyderabad, Bangalore, Chennai) are all facing massive water supply problems. For all the headlines over (unfortunate) suicides in Andhra Pradesh, the state with a very high level of suicides rate is Kerala. Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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It's very simple, provide uninterrupted water to businesses and the rich enclaves in the high tech cities. Some gallon figure was mentioned per resident. This is not an overnight development, although it appears that way. Newspapers may not have necessarily made the connection between IT development and water shortage in rural areas. But we know water, power, better roads are pretty mundane stuff when promoting business. xxx Anthony P. D'Costa, Professor Comparative International Development South Asian and International Studies Programs University of WashingtonCampus Box 358436 1900 Commerce Street Tacoma, WA 98402, USA Phone: (253) 692-4462 Fax : (253) 692-5718 xxx On Mon, 26 Jul 2004, [iso-8859-1] Ulhas Joglekar wrote: Anthony D'Costa wrote: But what he said was that Chandra Babu Naidu the laptop toting chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, who was recently ousted in the elections, transferred massive water to the urban, high tech driven city, at the expense of the rural folks. This story hasn't been reported in the media AFAIK. It's possible I missed it. But how exactly he did this? The water table is drastically falling in the southern region and virtually all major southern cities (Hyderabad, Bangalore, Chennai) are all facing massive water supply problems. For all the headlines over (unfortunate) suicides in Andhra Pradesh, the state with a very high level of suicides rate is Kerala. Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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Yesterday my school buddy returned after having spent 2 months in Hyderabad, the capital of Andhra Pradesh. He is an IT guy so he attributed the suicides partly to water shortage, consistent with limited monsoon rain in the region. But what he said was that Chandra Babu Naidu the laptop toting chief minister of Andhra Pradesh, who was recently ousted in the elections, transferred massive water to the urban, high tech driven city, at the expense of the rural folks. The water table is drastically falling in the southern region and virtually all major southern cities (Hyderabad, Bangalore, Chennai) are all facing massive water supply problems. cheers, anthony xxx Anthony P. D'Costa, Professor Comparative International Development University of WashingtonCampus Box 358436 1900 Commerce Street Tacoma, WA 98402, USA Phone: (253) 692-4462 Fax : (253) 692-5718 xxx On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, [iso-8859-1] Ulhas Joglekar wrote: Michael Perelman wrote: Yes, but why are they localized in only 1 state? Aren't these problems more widespread? I have not studied the pattern of rainfall region by region. Distribution of monsoon varies from region to region and within each region its timing during June-September monsoon period. Some regions also get rains in winter, others have irrigation based on snow fed rivers. Without that sort of study (which I have not done), it's hard to explain why, e.g. we don't hear about suicides by Karnataka farmers _on the same scale_ as those in Andhra Pradesh? Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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Seth Sandronsky wrote: Peasant Suicides in India is a chapter in Contours of Descent: U.S. Economic Fractures and the Landscape of Global Austerity by Robert Pollin that details the ruinous outcomes of IMF policies on Indian farmers. India doesn't owe any money to the IMF. How IMF policies are ruining Indian farmers? As for farmers' suicides, they are largely in Andhra Pradesh, not elsewhere in India. Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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Why are they localized? Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University michael at ecst.csuchico.edu Chico, CA 95929 530-898-5321 fax 530-898-5901 -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulhas Joglekar Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Subject: Re: Suicides, Military and Economic Seth Sandronsky wrote: Peasant Suicides in India is a chapter in Contours of Descent: U.S. Economic Fractures and the Landscape of Global Austerity by Robert Pollin that details the ruinous outcomes of IMF policies on Indian farmers. India doesn't owe any money to the IMF. How IMF policies are ruining Indian farmers? As for farmers' suicides, they are largely in Andhra Pradesh, not elsewhere in India. Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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didn't Bob write of the effects of neo-liberal policies in India, rather than neo-lib policies pushed by the IMF? Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine From: PEN-L list on behalf of Ulhas Joglekar Sent: Sat 7/24/2004 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PEN-L] Subject: Re: Suicides, Military and Economic Seth Sandronsky wrote: Peasant Suicides in India is a chapter in Contours of Descent: U.S. Economic Fractures and the Landscape of Global Austerity by Robert Pollin that details the ruinous outcomes of IMF policies on Indian farmers. India doesn't owe any money to the IMF. How IMF policies are ruining Indian farmers? As for farmers' suicides, they are largely in Andhra Pradesh, not elsewhere in India. Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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From: http://www.epw.org.in EPW Commentary July 10, 2004 Is Rural Economy Breaking Down? Farmers' Suicides in Andhra Pradesh Farmers' suicides represent only the tip of the iceberg. To attribute the rural crisis entirely to poverty and drought would be an oversimplification of the situation and the several ways in which village economy is under stress today. Hastily announced relief packages do not address this complex situation. E A S Sarma Andhra Pradesh, applauded by every visiting dignitary for its reformist and hi-tech approach to governance, has been in the news, but this time for a different reason. Heavy debt and acute poverty have forced many a farmer in the state to take the extreme step of committing suicide. In his first visit outside Delhi as prime minister, Manmohan Singh met some of the affected families and consoled them with a great deal of compassion and kindness.
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Perelman, Michael wrote: Farmers' suicides: Why are they localized? Failure of monsoons, farmers' indebtness, shift to the cash crops etc. are among the principal factors. See interview of CPIM Secretary, B.V. Raghavalu for Andhra Pradesh (Pop. about 80 million)for details in Fronline, 19 June-2 July 2004: (i)Interview: CPIM Secretary for Andhra Pradesh, B.V.Raghavalu http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2113/stories/20040702006201900.htm (ii)Other Frontline articles on farmers' suicides in Andhra Pradesh http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2113/fl211300.htm Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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Yes, but why are they localized in only 1 state? Aren't these problems more widespread? On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 08:20:40PM +0100, Ulhas Joglekar wrote: Perelman, Michael wrote: Farmers' suicides: Why are they localized? Failure of monsoons, farmers' indebtness, shift to the cash crops etc. are among the principal factors. See interview of CPIM Secretary, B.V. Raghavalu for Andhra Pradesh (Pop. about 80 million)for details in Fronline, 19 June-2 July 2004: (i)Interview: CPIM Secretary for Andhra Pradesh, B.V.Raghavalu http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2113/stories/20040702006201900.htm (ii)Other Frontline articles on farmers' suicides in Andhra Pradesh http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2113/fl211300.htm Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/ -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
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Michael Perelman wrote: Yes, but why are they localized in only 1 state? Aren't these problems more widespread? I have not studied the pattern of rainfall region by region. Distribution of monsoon varies from region to region and within each region its timing during June-September monsoon period. Some regions also get rains in winter, others have irrigation based on snow fed rivers. Without that sort of study (which I have not done), it's hard to explain why, e.g. we don't hear about suicides by Karnataka farmers _on the same scale_ as those in Andhra Pradesh? Ulhas Yahoo! India Careers: Over 65,000 jobs online Go to: http://yahoo.naukri.com/
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Ulhas and Jim, My bad. I should have written neoliberal, not IMF, policies in India. Seth Re: Subject: Re: Suicides, Military and Economic by Ulhas Joglekar 24 July 2004 Seth Sandronsky wrote: Peasant Suicides in India is a chapter in Contours of Descent: U.S. Economic Fractures and the Landscape of Global Austerity by Robert Pollin that details the ruinous outcomes of IMF policies on Indian farmers. India doesn't owe any money to the IMF. How IMF policies are ruining Indian farmers? As for farmers' suicides, they are largely in Andhra Pradesh, not elsewhere in India. Ulhas _ Overwhelmed by debt? Find out how to Dig Yourself Out of Debt from MSN Money. http://special.msn.com/money/0407debt.armx
