testing

2004-08-03 Thread Devine, James



there's 
no need to read this. How does the format look? 

Who needs 
enemas? Rebecca 
FrontTuesday August 3, 2004The 
Guardian A blow 
to conspiracy theorists appeared in this paper the other day. According to 
scientists, Napoleon Bonaparte was not murdered, as has long been suspected, but 
instead died as the result of a potassium imbalance. This, it's now thought, was 
brought about by a well-intentioned doctor being over-zealous in his use of 
enemas. I'm aware that the mere mention of an overzealous enema will have led 
many of you to start turning the page, but stay with me if you will. 

To historians and medics, you can 
see why Napoleon's enemas would be of interest. To ardent fans of colonic 
irrigation, such adverse publicity may be seen as a pain in the arse - but that, 
after all, is nothing they won't have dealt with before. To the would-be 
humourist, however, such a story presents a problem. Enemas. A great word, ripe 
with comic possibilities. There may never again be such a golden opportunity to 
use the old gag: "with friends like these ..." 
But puns are so last century. In 
the age of darker than dark, bitter without the sweet comedy, the sort of comedy 
in which I so often work, puns are simply not done. They're considered cheap, 
cheesy and a bit juvenile. Some might argue that that's what makes them funny. 
Puns are, after all, pretty harmless faux-confusions of two words that sound 
alike; surely hating them is... well, it's homophone-bia. But trust me, I write 
from experience. 
Some years ago I began working on a 
news satire show called The Day Today. The rest of the team were actors and 
writers too, but most had stand-up comedy experience. Not me. While they had 
been treading sticky, beer-sodden stages and helping to create the new wave of 
hard-hitting, postmodern irony, I had been sitting in radio studios with 
middle-aged actors, listening, between takes, to anecdotes with tag lines such 
as "stark bollock naked in front of Princess Margaret!" Of course, I had a lot 
of comedy experience, but when a show has a title such as The Nice Man Cometh or 
Rabble Without Applause, you know you can go for it all puns blazing. (Damn, 
there goes another one.) 


For the first few improvisation 
sessions on this new show, I felt too intimidated to utter a word. Then one day, 
someone set up an idea about capital punishment. I could see it rolling towards 
me ... a glorious, multi-layered pun. Someone was bound to get there first, to 
pick it up and run with it, but no. So I took a deep breath and said it: "No 
noose is good noose", then looked down modestly and waited for the guffaw. 
Silence. When I looked up again, some of my colleagues were pretending they 
hadn't heard me, others were frantically doodling on their notepads. One, 
sensing my bewilderment and fearful that I might repeat my crime, whispered: "No 
puns. No innuendo." I was mystified. This was a comedy. It was as if I'd been 
told to drive up a motorway with no gears and no steering wheel. But the comedy 
ground had shifted, and I had to jump on or fall through the gap. 
To many people, the kind of jokes 
you use are irrelevant. To Conservative party members in Congleton, for 
instance, the fact that their MP Ann Winterton made that irredeemably duff gag 
about Chinese cockle pickers has not deterred them from reselecting her. But the 
comedy world is as much dominated by fashion as... well, the fashion world. So I 
have learned to resist puns and innuendo, but it isn't easy. 
At a Blue Peter children's Prom 
this weekend - and let us just pause to consider the resonant potential of 
"Blue", "Peter" and "Prom" - I tried to sit stony faced while the presenters 
breathlessly praised the Royal Albert Hall's finest feature: 
"9,999 pipes! That's quite an 
organ, isn't it, Liz?" 
"Yes, Simon, that's certainly one 
powerful organ." 
I have to tell you it was hard. 
Keeping a straight face, I mean, not the organ. (Damn, I just can't help 
myself.) 
Which brings us back to Napoleon 
... Bonaparte ... (I'm resisting the innuendo locked within those three 
syllables, but it's killing me.) My brief for this column was to find a story 
that shouted to me and run with it. I could have chosen anything, but while 
Napoleon didn't shout to me, his enemas did. For all the wrong reasons. 

And, as I have my reputation to 
consider, instead of basing a column on a cheap joke, I've wasted one explaining 
my decision not to. But in doing so, I have created a spurious link between me 
and the great Corsican: Napoleon was defeated by Nelson; I, alas, was crushed by 
the column. 
 Rebecca Front is a comedy 
writer and performer, who recently appeared in the BBC's Nighty Night 

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine 



Re: testing

2004-08-03 Thread Mario José de Lima



...perfect.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Devine, James 

  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:18 
  PM
  Subject: testing
  
  there's no need to read this. How does the format 
  look? 
  
  Who needs 
  enemas? Rebecca FrontTuesday August 3, 2004The Guardian A blow to conspiracy theorists appeared in 
  this paper the other day. According to scientists, Napoleon Bonaparte was not 
  murdered, as has long been suspected, but instead died as the result of a 
  potassium imbalance. This, it's now thought, was brought about by a 
  well-intentioned doctor being over-zealous in his use of enemas. I'm aware 
  that the mere mention of an overzealous enema will have led many of you to 
  start turning the page, but stay with me if you will. 
  To historians and medics, you can 
  see why Napoleon's enemas would be of interest. To ardent fans of colonic 
  irrigation, such adverse publicity may be seen as a pain in the arse - but 
  that, after all, is nothing they won't have dealt with before. To the would-be 
  humourist, however, such a story presents a problem. Enemas. A great word, 
  ripe with comic possibilities. There may never again be such a golden 
  opportunity to use the old gag: "with friends like these ..." 
  But puns are so last century. In 
  the age of darker than dark, bitter without the sweet comedy, the sort of 
  comedy in which I so often work, puns are simply not done. They're considered 
  cheap, cheesy and a bit juvenile. Some might argue that that's what makes them 
  funny. Puns are, after all, pretty harmless faux-confusions of two words that 
  sound alike; surely hating them is... well, it's homophone-bia. But trust me, 
  I write from experience. 
  Some years ago I began working on 
  a news satire show called The Day Today. The rest of the team were actors and 
  writers too, but most had stand-up comedy experience. Not me. While they had 
  been treading sticky, beer-sodden stages and helping to create the new wave of 
  hard-hitting, postmodern irony, I had been sitting in radio studios with 
  middle-aged actors, listening, between takes, to anecdotes with tag lines such 
  as "stark bollock naked in front of Princess Margaret!" Of course, I had a lot 
  of comedy experience, but when a show has a title such as The Nice Man Cometh 
  or Rabble Without Applause, you know you can go for it all puns blazing. 
  (Damn, there goes another one.) 
  
  
  For the first few improvisation 
  sessions on this new show, I felt too intimidated to utter a word. Then one 
  day, someone set up an idea about capital punishment. I could see it rolling 
  towards me ... a glorious, multi-layered pun. Someone was bound to get there 
  first, to pick it up and run with it, but no. So I took a deep breath and said 
  it: "No noose is good noose", then looked down modestly and waited for the 
  guffaw. Silence. When I looked up again, some of my colleagues were pretending 
  they hadn't heard me, others were frantically doodling on their notepads. One, 
  sensing my bewilderment and fearful that I might repeat my crime, whispered: 
  "No puns. No innuendo." I was mystified. This was a comedy. It was as if I'd 
  been told to drive up a motorway with no gears and no steering wheel. But the 
  comedy ground had shifted, and I had to jump on or fall through the gap. 
  
  To many people, the kind of jokes 
  you use are irrelevant. To Conservative party members in Congleton, for 
  instance, the fact that their MP Ann Winterton made that irredeemably duff gag 
  about Chinese cockle pickers has not deterred them from reselecting her. But 
  the comedy world is as much dominated by fashion as... well, the fashion 
  world. So I have learned to resist puns and innuendo, but it isn't easy. 
  
  At a Blue Peter children's Prom 
  this weekend - and let us just pause to consider the resonant potential of 
  "Blue", "Peter" and "Prom" - I tried to sit stony faced while the presenters 
  breathlessly praised the Royal Albert Hall's finest feature: 
  "9,999 pipes! That's quite an 
  organ, isn't it, Liz?" 
  "Yes, Simon, that's certainly one 
  powerful organ." 
  I have to tell you it was hard. 
  Keeping a straight face, I mean, not the organ. (Damn, I just can't help 
  myself.) 
  Which brings us back to Napoleon 
  ... Bonaparte ... (I'm resisting the innuendo locked within those three 
  syllables, but it's killing me.) My brief for this column was to find a story 
  that shouted to me and run with it. I could have chosen anything, but while 
  Napoleon didn't shout to me, his enemas did. For all the wrong reasons. 
  
  And, as I have my reputation to 
  consider, instead of basing a column on a cheap joke, I've wasted one 
  explaining my decision not to. But in doing so, I have created a spurious link 
  between me and the great Corsican: Napoleon was defeated 

Re: testing

2004-08-03 Thread Dan Scanlan
Title: Re: testing


there's no
need to read this. How does the format look?

Somewhat staid, but it flowed nicely.

Scanlan



Re: testing

2004-08-03 Thread Devine, James
Title: Re: testing



thanks.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine 

  -Original Message-From: PEN-L list 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Dan ScanlanSent: 
  Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:27 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [PEN-L] 
  testing
  there's no need 
to read this. How does the format look?
  
  Somewhat staid, but it flowed nicely.
  
  Scanlan


Re: testing

2003-08-24 Thread joanna bujes
testing...sorry

joanna bujes wrote:

Jurriaan Bendien wrote:

I suppose the ultimate human goal is the realisation
of immortality, i.e. the extension of human life in perpetuity, which
assumes a love of human life, a love of being human in any possible way.
It may be the ultimate egotistic goal, but I don't know that I would
call it the ultimate human goal. It does not assume a love of life; it
assumes egocentrism and fear of death. You cannot be free and fear
death...you cannot be free and fear any form of the unknown.
Joanna




Re: testing

2003-08-22 Thread Waistline2
Test


testing

2003-08-14 Thread Devine, James
if there's anyone out there in pen-l land who's having a hard time
reading my contributions to the list (because of e-mail problems, not my
tortured prose or scattered logic), please tell me. Please do so
off-list. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine



testing

2002-12-17 Thread Devine, James
Title: testing





testing


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine






testing

2002-10-11 Thread Devine, James
Title: testing





testing





Re: testing

2002-10-11 Thread Ian Murray
testing
- Original Message - 
From: Devine, James 
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 6:32 PM
Subject: [PEN-L:31284] testing


testing 



failing..




testing

2002-10-08 Thread Devine, James
Title: testing





testing...



Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine





testing

2002-10-08 Thread Devine, James
Title: testing





using Western European (Windows) encoding. 



Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine





testing

2002-07-02 Thread Devine, James
Title: testing





testing


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine





testing again

2002-07-02 Thread Devine, James
Title: testing again





testing again. Sorry, but the IS guy doesn't know his job so he's making me do it again. 


Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine





testing: competition diversity

2002-06-03 Thread Devine, James
Title: testing: competition  diversity





contrary to what it says below, Michael did not write the two paragraphs. I did. It's good to see that pen-l is receiving my missives even I am not receiving yours... JD


Michael Perelman wrote: 


it's interesting (to me, at least), that the ideal market of neoclassical economics -- the perfectly competitive market -- does not allow diversity; diversity undermines perfection. On the other hand, the more realistic story of atomistic markets that neoclassical economics typically plays down -- the monopolistically competitive market -- is the one that assumes diversity, at least in terms of the product being sold. 

Actually, all I'm doing is testing to see if my e-mail system will send. It ain't receiving. And I see pen-l as an all-important antidote to jury duty. I'm on a ten day trial. I have two words about that: personal injury.

JD 





Re: Stress testing the system

2002-04-13 Thread Ian Murray


- Original Message - 
From: Sabri Oncu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apparently, The National Interest is
very much interested in publishing information about The End of
everything, from history to globalization.

Sabri



Except the End of the construct named THE national interest.

Ian




Stress testing the system

2002-04-12 Thread Sabri Oncu

Friends,

Please take a look at the address below,

http://www.cfr.org/public/resource.cgi?meet!2746

and tell me anything you know about this stress testing story.
There is a book out on this but I have not seen it yet. The book
information is below. Also, there is a related interesting
article in the recent issue of The National Interest, a sample of
which you can read here:

http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/67/Jones.html

There are two other books mentioned in the above article that the
interested researchers may find useful. One of them is called
The End of Globalization. Apparently, The National Interest is
very much interested in publishing information about The End of
everything, from history to globalization.

Sabri

++


Stress Testing the System: Simulating the Global Consequences of
the Next Financial Crisis
By Roger M. Kubarych
Council on Foreign Relations ( October 2001 )


Order direct from Distributor


What if you took seventy-five of the most experienced
professionals in the fields of finance, economics, foreign
policy, and national security and confronted them with two dozen
policy problems triggered by a massive contraction in the stock
markets? That was the premise of an unprecedented simulation
conducted by the Council on Foreign Relations, and the subject of
Council Fellow Roger Kubarych’s new book Stress Testing the
System: Simulating the GlobalConsequences of the Next Financial
Crisis. This book captures the way in which the simulation was
organized and played out at a time when the U.S. stood at the
pinnacle of the 1990s high-tech boom.

The major conclusion that flows from the work of Kubarych and his
colleagues is this: when there is a shock to the international
financial system, U.S. policymakers will deal with the financial
crisis first, even when there are other foreign policy and
security concerns at stake. Because the strength of the U.S.
economy is so critical to global prosperity and to the financial
health and political stability of most nations, without first
restoring stability in the markets and reducing the potential for
subsequent negative economic consequences, policies to address
other problems will be less effective.

This hypothetical crisis helps us better understand the ripple
effects of recent financial troubles. Crises reverberated through
Mexico in 1994-95, Asia in 1997-98, Russia and Brazil in 1998,
and, just recently, Argentina and Turkey. In every case, what
began as financial traumas soon broadened out to infect the
economies, and almost always the political systems, of these
countries. Even the United States, largely spared financial
trauma during the past ten years, is beleaguered by the
precipitous drop in the high-tech equity sector, and people are
uneasy about the U.S. economic outlook.


The Council’s simulation was an exploration of financial
vulnerabilities and their connections with broader economic,
foreign policy, and national security considerations. It assumes
that economic and market forces will play an increasing role in
the setting of policy objectives, priorities, strategies, and
responses. The aim was to challenge a group of experts to work
through the options and constraints facing the U.S. government in
the aftermath of an unforeseen financial crisis beginning in the
United States and spreading throughout Latin America, Europe,
Asia, and the rest of the world.

This book is more than a revealing account of the lessons and
implications of time – and crisis-pressured decision making: it
is an instructive guide for how best to organize business and
financial war-gaming. Kubarych provides an insider’s look at
the collaboration among great minds that led to a successfully
crafted scenario that was played out with real-world accuracy.




testing

2002-03-14 Thread Devine, James

testing 

Jim Devine




testing

2000-08-19 Thread Jim Devine

please ignore this message.
Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine




RE: testing

2000-08-19 Thread Lisa Ian Murray

please ignore this message.
 Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~JDevine 

Is this a koan?

Ian




[PEN-L:6453] Lights Out in Belgrade / Testing the Waters / More...

1999-05-05 Thread Michael Eisenscher


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[PEN-L:4773] Testing!

1999-03-30 Thread Ajit Sinha

Is Pen-l down since Friday? ajit sinha






[PEN-L:4591] US military uses Yugoslavia as testing ground for high-tech

1999-03-27 Thread Frank Durgin

 
   
   WSWS : News  Analysis : Europe : The Balkan Crisis

   US military uses Yugoslavia as
   testing ground for high-tech
   weaponry

   By Jerry White
   27 March 1999

   The US military has welcomed the confrontation
   with Serbia as an opportunity to test its arsenal of
   high-tech weaponry and to train American military
   personnel in a new theater of war.

   Military commanders were elated the night the
   bombing began, according to the New York Times.
   "For some diplomats and officials at NATO
   headquarters in Brussels, where [Supreme
   Commander US General Wesley] Clark has made
   no secret of his judgment that an air campaign
   against Milosevic was justified long ago, the mood
   this evening was almost jubilant," the newspaper
   wrote. "'It's accelerating and exhilarating,' said
   one."

   Each branch of the armed forces is jockeying for
   the chance to display its weapon systems,
   regardless of whether any specific military purpose
   is fulfilled, simply to justify their multibillion-dollar
   budgets.

   Since the bombing began US Navy warships and
   submarines in the Adriatic Sea, and bombers
   flown from Italy, have launched scores of cruise
   missiles at Serbian targets. These include a new
   generation of Tomahawk missiles, which the
   Pentagon says have "proven effective" during recent
   raids against Iraq, hitting 80 percent of their
   targets.

   Military planners prefer the unmanned
   missiles--which cost $750,000 each--in the initial
   stages of an attack rather than risking more
   expensive manned aircraft. The cruise missiles,
   built by Raytheon Corporation, are launched with
   the click of a computer mouse from ships floating
   well out of reach of any enemy threat. Traveling at
   the speed of sound, the missiles are guided to their
   targets by 24 global positioning satellites orbiting
   the earth.

   Wednesday was also the debut of the US Air
   Force's most expensive warplane, the B-2 "Spirit"
   stealth bomber. Two of the $2.2 billion planes flew
   from air bases in Missouri to Yugoslavia, where
   they dropped 40,000 pounds of bombs each, and
   then returned nonstop to the US.

   First introduced in 1988 for long-range nuclear
   strikes deep into the former Soviet Union, the plane
   had been plagued by technical problems, including
   a radar system which had difficulty distinguishing
   mountain ranges from clouds and radar-absorbent
   paint that wore off too quickly. The fear of losing
   the aircraft, two of which cost as much as an
   aircraft carrier, led the military to pass over the
   B-2 for combat missions at a time when every
   other strike aircraft was being deployed in the
   Persian Gulf.

   The Air Force had been "champing at the bit" to
   test its B-2 squadron on real missions since its
   deployment in 1993, said Chris Hillman, an analyst
   with the Center for Defense Information in
   Washington, DC. Although the military has
   simulated using the B-2s, Hillman said simulations
   are like video games when compared to real battle.
   The only true test of the B-2 "is to have somebody
   who really hates us trying to shoot us down," he
   said.

   After the mission General Leroy Barnidge,
   commander of the B-2 Bomb Wing in Missouri,
   said, "I got to tell you, the crews in these jets
   performed magnificently. It says to the critics that
   this plane did everything it advertised, and then
   some."

   The US currently has a fleet of 21 B-2 bombers,
   which costs $44 billion. The warplane's "success"
   over the skies of Yugoslavia will surely mean
   billions more in future procurements for
   manufacturer Northrop Grumman.

   Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Lockheed Martin,
   Boeing and other US defense contractors have
   made no secret of the fact that they see the conflict
   in Yugoslavia as an opport

[PEN-L:1948] testing!

1999-01-01 Thread sinha

Just testing






testing

1997-03-21 Thread Wojtek Sokolowski

testing
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[PEN-L:8916] Re: testing

1997-03-14 Thread quealey

Please cancel my listing





[PEN-L:8905] Re: testing

1997-03-14 Thread A. S. Fatemi

On Tue, 11 Mar 1997, James Devine wrote:

 testing: does this new e-mail facility work? (Sorry to bother you.)
 
 -- Jim
 
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[PEN-L:8873] testing

1997-03-11 Thread James Devine

testing: does this new e-mail facility work? (Sorry to bother you.)

-- Jim





[PEN-L:6687] Means testing Social Security

1996-10-15 Thread Teresa Ghilarducci



A debate between myself and the economist for the Concord Coalition was just
published on means testing Social Security. The Concord Coalition is for it
because they want to turn Social Security into welfare. The reference is
Contoversial Issues in Aging, edited by Kaye and Scharlach, Allyn and Bacon. 

So I agree with  Bill Moore for his reasons and others. There are other ways
to strengthen the program and continue its progressivity. We can eliminate
the cap on taxable wages for the employer's contribution, for instance. We
need to tax Rockefeller in other, more effective, ways. 


Teresa Ghilarducci 


At 12:37 PM 10/14/96 -0700, you wrote:
Means testing for Social Security benefits?  You'd better think about that
some more.  Means testing was one of the arguments to fight against SS in
the first place.  "Why should Rockefeller get the same benefits as you?" --
Means testing is one way to split people up politically, take away the
support of those slightly better off than the poorest, and then kill the
whole SS program.  Means testing makes it a welfare program and those are
easy to attack.  Even Bill Clinton, despite feeling pain, is willing to do
that.

I agree wholeheartedly and eliminating the "income-cap" on OASDHI is the
best first step.  Then, no matter what the AARP may say, implement means
testing for SS benefits.  (On the other demographic end, don't encourage
population growth with tax-credits.  8)  Then...
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Teresa Ghilarducci
Associate Professor
Department of Economics
University of Notre Dame
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556
Phone: 219/631-7581
fax:   219/232-3086




[PEN-L:6701] Re: Means testing Social Security

1996-10-15 Thread Eugene P. Coyle

Teresa, when you wrote the following I think you were agreeing with me and
DISAGREEing with Bill Moore.
Gene Coyle

A debate between myself and the economist for the Concord Coalition was just
published on means testing Social Security. The Concord Coalition is for it
because they want to turn Social Security into welfare. The reference is
Contoversial Issues in Aging, edited by Kaye and Scharlach, Allyn and Bacon.

So I agree with  Bill Moore for his reasons and others. There are other ways
to strengthen the program and continue its progressivity. We can eliminate
the cap on taxable wages for the employer's contribution, for instance. We
need to tax Rockefeller in other, more effective, ways.


Teresa Ghilarducci


At 12:37 PM 10/14/96 -0700, you wrote:
Means testing for Social Security benefits?  You'd better think about that
some more.  Means testing was one of the arguments to fight against SS in
the first place.  "Why should Rockefeller get the same benefits as you?" --
Means testing is one way to split people up politically, take away the
support of those slightly better off than the poorest, and then kill the
whole SS program.  Means testing makes it a welfare program and those are
easy to attack.  Even Bill Clinton, despite feeling pain, is willing to do
that.

I agree wholeheartedly and eliminating the "income-cap" on OASDHI is the
best first step.  Then, no matter what the AARP may say, implement means
testing for SS benefits.  (On the other demographic end, don't encourage
population growth with tax-credits.  8)  Then...
=
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  _   /!   |   Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  \|o.o Bill the Cat   |Voice:  303/399-6726 | FAX:  303/333-9009
 ==(_^_)==  ACK!  THPFFTT! | Copyright USA 1996   All Rights Reserved
 U |Bill Moore
   |   All opinions are solely this writer's.
=
=






Teresa Ghilarducci
Associate Professor
Department of Economics
University of Notre Dame
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556
Phone: 219/631-7581
fax:   219/232-3086





[PEN-L:1557] RE: Petition against French nuclear testing (fwd)

1995-11-22 Thread Vanda Rideout

Vanda Rideout - PhD student Sociology Carleton Univeristy, Ottawa, Canada



[PEN-L:1546] RE: Petition against French nuclear testing (fwd)

1995-11-21 Thread D Shniad

 Will you support this petition to get the French nuclear tests stopped?
 
 Just add your name to the end of this numbered list and forward on to as
 many people as possible.  (Do not reply to sender )
 Subject: Stop (French) Nuclear Tests
 
1  SHIMIZU Seishi Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
2  Yuichi Nishihara   Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
3  Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
4  Takashi TomoedaPhysics,University of Tokyo,Japan
5  Tomoki KOBAYASHI   Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
6  Munehito ARAI  Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
7  Akira Okazaki  Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
8  Atsushi Matsumura  Physics, Tohoku University, Japan
9  Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry,Tohoku University,Japan
   10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France
   11 Toru Hara  Universite de Paris Sud, France
   12 Rene BakkerCEA - Sacley, France
   13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France
   14 Henk Blok  Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam
   15 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam
   16 Ard van Sighem NIKHEF, Amsterdam
   17 Johan NoordhoekKOL Leiden
   18 C.M.C.M. van Woerkens Kamerlingh Onnes Laboratory, Leiden
   19 Annemarie Borst,   Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
   20 Gijs Nelemans  Universiteit Utrecht
   21 Susanne Buiter Universiteit Utrecht
   22 Yvo KokPaleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht
   23 Thom Pick  Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht University
   24 Dagmar Olbertz Universiteit Utrecht
   25 Eleonore Stutzmann Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
   26 Nicole GirardinInstitut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
   27 Francois Girardin  Ecole Nat. Sup. des Telecommunications, France
   28 J.-P. Chaboureau   Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique,France
   29 F. CHERUY  Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique, France
   30 G.L.LibertiLab. Modelisation climat et environnement, CEA, France
   31 David Stephenson   Centre Europeen de Recherche et Formation Avancee en
 Calcul Scientifique, Toulouse, France
   32 Dr. Ralph P. Sobek Centre Europeen de Recherche et Formation Avancee en
 Calcul Scientifique, Toulouse, France
   33 Marc Vaisset   LAAS, Toulouse, France
   34 Jerome Perret  LAAS, Toulouse, France
   35 Michael Kaiser Comp.Sci./Robotics, University of Karlsruhe, Germany
   36 Volker Klingspor   Universitaet Dortmund, Germany
   37 Peer Kuchenmeister Universitaet Bonn, Germany
   38 Carsten Dorgerloh  Universitaet Bonn, Germany
   39 Andrea KuthGMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   40 Guido Pfeiffer GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   41 Christoph Dahmen   GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   42 Dr. Holger VeitGMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   43 Dr. Gernot Richter GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   44 Manfred Domke  GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   45 Josef Boerding GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   46 Dr. Werner EmdeGMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   47 Edgar Sommer   GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
   48 Hans Guesgen   University of Auckland, New Zealand
   49 Julian Harris  University of Auckland, New Zealand
   50 Barry Fenn University of Auckland, New Zealand
   51 Mary Gardner   University of Otago, New Zealand
   52 Roger BoothUniversity of Auckland, New Zealand
   53 Kevin AshbridgeUniversity of Tuebingen, Germany
   54 Peter L. NelsonPsychology, West Georgia College, U.S.A.
   55 Nadine Levick  Emergency Medicine, Melbourne, Australia
   56 Michael Harari Pediatrician, Jerusalem, Israel
   57 Mike South Paediatrician, Melbourne, Australia
   58 Ourania Horaitis   Molecular Biologist Melbourne, Australia
   59 Jim Stamatopoulos   Telstra, Australia
   60 Arthur Iliakopoulos Telstra, Australia
   61 Joe Giunta  Telstra, Australia
   62 Tony Milic  Telstra, Australia
   63 Mark Whitmore   Tesltra, Australia
   64 Andrew Mooren   Tesltra, Australia
   65 Andrea MilneTelstra, Australia
   66 Janice BarryTelstra, Australia
   67 Lindsay McGuire Telstra, Australia
   68 Ken Dadsey  Telstra Australia
   69 Jan Gibson  Telstra Australia
   70 Stuart RileyTelstra Australia
   71 Ben JohnstonMelbourne, Australia
   72 Manuel Tito de Morais  Ericsson Telecom, Sweden
   73 Lars Ervik  Ericsson Radio, Sweden
   74 Roger Borjesson Ericsson Telecom, Australia
   75 Ted Strzebonski Ericsson Australia
   76 Mariola Strzebonski Ericsson Australia
   77 Ralph Ward  Ericsson Australia
   78 Ana Pipunic Ericsson Australia
   79 Lilly Pejic Ericsson Australia
   80 Les Grigg   Ericsson Australia
   81 June Campbell   Ericsson Australia
   82 Sihem Imamhousein   Ericsson Australia
   83 B.Przybyszewska Ericsson Australia
   84 Joe Milic   Ericsson Australia
   85 Wei XiaoEricsson Australia
   86 Marlene Verey  

[PEN-L:1548] RE: Petition against French nuclear testing (fwd)

1995-11-21 Thread Bill Koehnlein

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  Will you support this petition to get the French nuclear tests stopped?
  
  Just add your name to the end of this numbered list and forward on to as
  many people as possible.  (Do not reply to sender )
  Subject: Stop (French) Nuclear Tests
  
 1  SHIMIZU Seishi Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
 2  Yuichi Nishihara   Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
 3  Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
 4  Takashi TomoedaPhysics,University of Tokyo,Japan
 5  Tomoki KOBAYASHI   Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
 6  Munehito ARAI  Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
 7  Akira Okazaki  Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
 8  Atsushi Matsumura  Physics, Tohoku University, Japan
 9  Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry,Tohoku University,Japan
10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France
11 Toru Hara  Universite de Paris Sud, France
12 Rene BakkerCEA - Sacley, France
13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France
14 Henk Blok  Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam
15 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam
16 Ard van Sighem NIKHEF, Amsterdam
17 Johan NoordhoekKOL Leiden
18 C.M.C.M. van Woerkens Kamerlingh Onnes Laboratory, Leiden
19 Annemarie Borst,   Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
20 Gijs Nelemans  Universiteit Utrecht
21 Susanne Buiter Universiteit Utrecht
22 Yvo KokPaleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht
23 Thom Pick  Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht University
24 Dagmar Olbertz Universiteit Utrecht
25 Eleonore Stutzmann Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
26 Nicole GirardinInstitut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
27 Francois Girardin  Ecole Nat. Sup. des Telecommunications, France
28 J.-P. Chaboureau   Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique,France
29 F. CHERUY  Lab. Meteorologie Dynamique, France
30 G.L.LibertiLab. Modelisation climat et environnement, CEA, France
31 David Stephenson   Centre Europeen de Recherche et Formation Avancee en
  Calcul Scientifique, Toulouse, France
32 Dr. Ralph P. Sobek Centre Europeen de Recherche et Formation Avancee en
  Calcul Scientifique, Toulouse, France
33 Marc Vaisset   LAAS, Toulouse, France
34 Jerome Perret  LAAS, Toulouse, France
35 Michael Kaiser Comp.Sci./Robotics, University of Karlsruhe, Germany
36 Volker Klingspor   Universitaet Dortmund, Germany
37 Peer Kuchenmeister Universitaet Bonn, Germany
38 Carsten Dorgerloh  Universitaet Bonn, Germany
39 Andrea KuthGMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
40 Guido Pfeiffer GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
41 Christoph Dahmen   GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
42 Dr. Holger VeitGMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
43 Dr. Gernot Richter GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
44 Manfred Domke  GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
45 Josef Boerding GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
46 Dr. Werner EmdeGMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
47 Edgar Sommer   GMD Sankt Augustin, Germany
48 Hans Guesgen   University of Auckland, New Zealand
49 Julian Harris  University of Auckland, New Zealand
50 Barry Fenn University of Auckland, New Zealand
51 Mary Gardner   University of Otago, New Zealand
52 Roger BoothUniversity of Auckland, New Zealand
53 Kevin AshbridgeUniversity of Tuebingen, Germany
54 Peter L. NelsonPsychology, West Georgia College, U.S.A.
55 Nadine Levick  Emergency Medicine, Melbourne, Australia
56 Michael Harari Pediatrician, Jerusalem, Israel
57 Mike South Paediatrician, Melbourne, Australia
58 Ourania Horaitis   Molecular Biologist Melbourne, Australia
59 Jim Stamatopoulos   Telstra, Australia
60 Arthur Iliakopoulos Telstra, Australia
61 Joe Giunta  Telstra, Australia
62 Tony Milic  Telstra, Australia
63 Mark Whitmore   Tesltra, Australia
64 Andrew Mooren   Tesltra, Australia
65 Andrea MilneTelstra, Australia
66 Janice BarryTelstra, Australia
67 Lindsay McGuire Telstra, Australia
68 Ken Dadsey  Telstra Australia
69 Jan Gibson  Telstra Australia
70 Stuart RileyTelstra Australia
71 Ben JohnstonMelbourne, Australia

[PEN-L:5916] Nuclear Testing

1995-07-19 Thread Rudy Fichtenbaum

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Subject: nuclear test
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY  St. Louis, MO

From:   IN%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]"  "Arimondo Ennio" 15-JUL-1995 14:06:30.25
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Dear friends,
 
   This is a chain letter to urge the french government to stop nuclear 
   tests. If you agree with us, please add your name to the list below,
   and send copies to your friends. We will add up the lists that come 
   back to us, and send them to the French Government.
 
   If you happen to be the hundredth, two hundredth, three hundredth,
   and so on, on the list, please send a copy of the mail back to the
   addresses below, so that  we can keep track of this project. If you have
   any comment please send mails to us. And also, if you are multi-lingual 
   and have friends who may not understand English, please translate this 
   message and add it to the end of the mail.
   Thank you very much.
 
 
  *** addresses of the organizers
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - please use this adress
  ***
 
  1  SHIMIZU Seishi Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
  2  Yuichi Nishihara   Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
  3  Hirohisa TANIGUCHI Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
  4  Takashi TomoedaPhysics,University of Tokyo,Japan
  5  Tomoki KOBAYASHI   Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
  6  Munehito ARAI  Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
  7  Akira Okazaki  Physics,University of Tokyo,Japan
  8  Atsushi Matsumura  Physics, Tohoku University, Japan
  9  Kouta Yamamoto Chemistry,Tohoku University,Japan
  10 Yasushi UJIOKA Degremont S.A., France
  11 Toru Hara  Universite de Paris Sud, France
  12 Rene BakkerCEA - Sacley, France
  13 David Garzella Universite de Paris Sud, France
  14 Henk Blok  Vrije Universiteit/NIKHEF, Amsterdam
  15 Igor Passchier NIKHEF, Amsterdam
  16 Ard van Sighem NIKHEF, Amsterdam
  17 Johan NoordhoekKOL Leiden
  18 C.M.C.M. van Woerkens Kamerlingh Onnes Laboratory, Leiden
  19 Annemarie Borst,   Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
  20 Gijs Nelemans  Universiteit Utrecht
  21 Susanne Buiter Universiteit Utrecht
  22 Yvo KokPaleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht
  23 Thom Pick  Paleomagnetic Lab., Utrecht University
  24 Dagmar Olbertz Universiteit Utrecht
  25 Eleonore Stutzmann Institut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
  26 Nicole GirardinInstitut de Physique du Globe de Paris, France
  27 Francois Girardin  Ecole Nat. Sup. des Telecommunications,France
  28 Axel Manthey   Comnets RWTH Aachen, Germany
  29 Martin PapprothComNets RWTH Aachen, Germany
  30 Eckhard Papproth   Ecole Nat. Sup. des Telecommunications,France
  31 Lothar Heinz   Universitaet Bonn
  32 Achim Weigel   DFKI, Kaiserslautern, Germany
  33 Stevan AgneDFKI, Kaiserslautern, Germany
  34 Martin Schaaf  DFKI, Kaiserslautern, Germany
  35 Andreas AbeckerDFKI, Kaiserslautern, Germany
  36 Juergen Waesch GMD-IPSI, Darmstadt, Germany
  37 Susanne Boll   GMD-IPSI, Darmstadt, Germany
  38 Juergen Trumpfheller Physik, Technische Hochschule Darmstadt, Germany
  39 Andreas Kelz   Physics, University of Sydney, Australia 
  40 Sue Byleveld   Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
  41 Lachlan Hall   Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
  42 Edmund GerstnerPhysics, University of Sydney, Australia
  43 Arthur Street  Physics,California Institute of Technology,USA
  44 Christina Hood Physics, California Institute of Technology, USA
  45 David Salinas  Physics, Cornell University, USA
  46 Rua Murray Mathematics, University of Cambridge, UK
  47 Leith Cooper   Physics, Oxford, UK
  48 Nick Proukakis Physics, Oxford, UK
  49 Giovanna MorigiPhysics, Oxford, UK
  50 Ennio Arimondo Physics, Pisa, Italy


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Testing

1994-06-20 Thread Ajit Sinha

Another testing folks! I'm very very sorry for this annoyance.
 Ajit