Re: [PEN-L] Growing Chinese economic influence

2004-11-21 Thread Chris Burford
Yes. Extraordinary Only a few days ago we heard of the export of Chinese capital to Argentina Now to England. Partly a sign of their rising ascendancy in many ways, partly in the short term for exchange rate reasons they cannot get rid of capital fast enough. But being Chinese, they will probably

[PEN-L] Malnutrition doubles in Iraq after occupation

2004-11-21 Thread Louis Proyect
Children Pay Cost of Iraq's Chaos Malnutrition Nearly Double What It Was Before Invasion By Karl Vick Washington Post Foreign Service Sunday, November 21, 2004; Page A01 BAGHDAD -- Acute malnutrition among young children in Iraq has nearly doubled since the United States led an invasion of the

Re: [PEN-L] Growing Chinese economic influence

2004-11-21 Thread Devine, James
Chris writes: But being Chinese, they will probably get the best possible price for it. is this a genetic predisposition that you're positing? or is it cultural? Are Chinese more money-grubbing than others? JD

Re: [PEN-L] Growing Chinese economic influence

2004-11-21 Thread Eubulides
- Original Message - From: Marvin Gandall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, the Jews and the Scots have also been prominently mentioned. :) I'm still looking to meet the capitalist - of any nationality - who doesn't want to get the best possible price for his or her product, or the worker who

Re: [PEN-L] Growing Chinese economic influence

2004-11-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Using its currency to buy up outside capital will not help keep the Chinese currency cheap. It may reflect a view that China will evolve from being a low wage desitination of offshoring to joining the ranks of advanced capitalist nations with wages higher than those of the poor nations. It may

Re: [PEN-L] Growing Chinese economic influence

2004-11-21 Thread Marvin Gandall
Capitalists and workers seek the best POSSIBLE price, but the best possible is, of course, not always the best. Your example of a capitalist who has a profit opportunity but foregoes it for no apparent reason is extraordinary, and defies the logic of capitalism - what do the shareholders think?

Re: [PEN-L] Growing Chinese economic influence

2004-11-21 Thread Chris Burford
Oh dear, I wondered if the phrase gave hostages to fortune. But I thought the context made clear that I assumed the Chinese had long term strategic goals in mind rather than quick profits by way of asset stripping etc. I did add The interest payments over the next five years are completely

[PEN-L] Columbia University witch-hunt

2004-11-21 Thread Louis Proyect
The NY Daily News is a tabloid geared to workers and has the largest circulation of any newspaper in the city, I believe. The publisher is Mort Zuckerman, a billionaire real estate developer who bought it some time ago in order to promote his rightwing agenda, especially support for Zionist

[PEN-L] Dr. Doom on the $

2004-11-21 Thread Eubulides
US risks a downhill dollar disaster Larry Elliott Monday November 22, 2004 The Guardian George Bush's foreign policy is simple: don't mess with America. The same, it appears, applies to economic policy as well. On Friday, the dollar fell sharply against the euro. That was unsurprising, since the

[PEN-L] microsoft to use the WTO to fight free software!!!

2004-11-21 Thread Michael Perelman
Here is the URL I don't have time to extract the meat. Sorry. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/19/microsoft_wto_winning_without_firing/ -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu