[PEN-L] class struggle in the Ukraine

2004-11-23 Thread Chris Burford
This looks like a pivotal moment when the Ukraine will fall either mainly into the orbit of the European Union, or back into the orbit of Russia. Street demonstrations could lead to violence. In a previous century these would have led to threats of armed invasion. In this century it is not

Re: [PEN-L] Impact of dollar decline?

2004-11-23 Thread Paul
I am not sure the 1986-87 dollar devaluation will tell us too much about the future, particularly in terms of exact levels of price inflation. I think it is more likely this round will have large doses of fundamental uncertainty. IMO the differences with the past will emerge in two categories:

Re: [PEN-L] class struggle in the Ukraine

2004-11-23 Thread Devine, James
Chris Buford writes: There is also an understated linked contradiction with the religious split reflecting centuries of different historical experience between the Catholic west and the Orthodox east. Chris Doss writes: It's a conflict between East and West Ukraine, town (except for

Re: [PEN-L] class struggle in the Ukraine

2004-11-23 Thread Chris Doss
--- Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris Doss writes: It's a conflict between East and West Ukraine, town (except for Kiev) and country, Russians and Ukrainians, and the Russian and Ukrainian languages. Really Ukraine should be split into two countries ... Is it also a

[PEN-L] Hawks Push Deep Cuts in Forces in Iraq

2004-11-23 Thread Charles Brown
Hawks Push Deep Cuts in Forces in Iraq By Bryan Bender The Boston Globe Monday 22 November 2004 Washington - A growing number of national security specialists who supported the toppling of Saddam Hussein are moving to a position unthinkable even a few months ago: that the

[PEN-L] Fwd: REPUBLICAN CHALLENGES PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BASED ON EXIT POLLS

2004-11-23 Thread Dan Scanlan
Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 23, 2004 8:19:21 AM PST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: REPUBLICAN CHALLENGES PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BASED ON EXIT POLLS REPUBLICAN CHALLENGES PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION BASED ON EXIT POLLS Tuesday, November 23, 2004 from the New York Times

Re: [PEN-L] Congrats to youth: 'You rocked!'

2004-11-23 Thread Michael Hoover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/23/2004 4:14:10 PM Congrats to youth: 'You rocked!' By Michael Moore If there was one group who really came through on Tuesday, it was the young people of America. Their turnout was historic and record setting. And few in the media are willing to report this fact. Kerry won

[PEN-L] the further Enronization of US Gov. accounting

2004-11-23 Thread Eubulides
Republicans Finding Ways To Account For Overhaul Social Security Change Expensive in Short Term By Jonathan Weisman Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, November 23, 2004; Page E01 Republican budget writers say they may have found a way to cut the federal deficit even if they borrow hundreds of

[PEN-L] is economics a science, revisited

2004-11-23 Thread Charles Brown
I had three excellent teachers as an undergraduate. Wolfgang Stolper -- a famous economist, whose classes mostly covered music, philosophy, stories about Schumpeter, and European history -- Dan Fusfeld, who allowed me to take a graduate class in history of

[PEN-L] Fight night in the NBA

2004-11-23 Thread Charles Brown
this trivial throwing of fists was the most violent player/fan brawl in US sports history? you got to be kidding me! --ravi ^ CB: I was thinking about that. The key is player/FAN, although I think Ty Cobb went into the stands after a fan in about 19??. (Cobb, a known racist, also