[PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Chris Burford
It occurs to me that the Aceh earthquake and its consequences will have a comparable impact to that of the great Lisbon earthquake of 1755 in influencing the European enlightenment and the push for bourgeois democracy. http://nisee.berkeley.edu/lisbon/ Although not the strongest or most deadly

[PEN-L] merry prankster

2005-01-02 Thread Dan Scanlan
LA Times December 31st, 2004 Steve Lopez: Points West A Merry Prankster Keeps On Chuckling As a paid professional cage rattler, I owe a debt to Voltaire, William and Mary of England, the Founding Fathers of the United States, H.L. Mencken and Lenny Bruce, among others. Without their contributions

Re: [PEN-L] Jared Diamond

2005-01-02 Thread Louis Proyect
Genghis Khan and his Mongols attempted much the same sort of thing upon their invention of the stirrup? dd http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/All Things Considered, March 25, 2004 · http://www.npr.org/about/people/bios/rsiegel.htmlNPR's Robert Siegel talks with Jack Weatherford about his new book

Re: [PEN-L] Jared Diamond

2005-01-02 Thread Daniel Davies
yeh, but he did conquer the known world though? it is, actually, also possible to make the case that the Europeans did the odd thing or two for world trade, aqueducts, diplomacy, viticulture, etc. It doesn't seem obvious to me that one can't fully condemn the excesses of European imperialism and

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Perelman, Michael
I remember learning as an undergrad that the earthquake had a profound effect on European psychology -- at least among the intellectuals. It suggested that reason was incapable of taking total control and helped to fuel the romantic movement, which in turn helped to inspire the Nazis. Michael

[PEN-L] European moral inferiority

2005-01-02 Thread Devine, James
[was RE: [PEN-L] Jared Diamond] I don't think European immorality is any stronger or weaker than any other culture's immorality (at least if you compare class societies). Rather, high tech weapons (and sometimes organizational techniques) have allowed the greater expression of European

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Perelman, Michael wrote: the romantic movement, which in turn helped to inspire the Nazis. O come now. This could be true only in so far as one could affirm the romantic movement, which in turn helped inspire the birth of someone in 1897, the St. Louis Exposition, the songs when johnny comes

[PEN-L] Virno: Post-Fordism is the empirical realization of the 'Fragment on Machines'

2005-01-02 Thread tom walker
That is from the title of Paolo Virno's thesis #2 of his Ten Theses on the Multitude and Post-Fordist Capitalism, from _A Grammar of the Multitude_. Without passing judgement on the other nine theses or Virno's book, which I haven't read, this thesis seems to me to say something (with regard to

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Bill Lear wrote: On Sunday, January 2, 2005 at 17:54:01 (-0600) Carrol Cox writes: Perelman, Michael wrote: the romantic movement, which in turn helped to inspire the Nazis. O come now. This could be true only in so far as ... You are confusing causing with inspiring. The Nazis were

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Daniel Davies
I'm sure it can be argued the other way, but orthodoxy in the Welsh school system was that romanticism came to a definitive end in Flanders fields 1914-1918 and anything after that is modern. Of course, I was also basically taught that the entirety of history since the Romans was an inexorable

Re: [PEN-L] Jared Diamond

2005-01-02 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Genghis Khan and his Mongols attempted much the same sort of thing upon their invention of the stirrup? dd http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/All Things Considered, March 25, 2004 · http://www.npr.org/about/people/bios/rsiegel.htmlNPR's Robert Siegel talks with Jack Weatherford about his new book

Re: [PEN-L] Virno: Post-Fordism is the empirical realization of the 'Fragment on Machines'

2005-01-02 Thread Michael Perelman
That part of Marx -- on the growing non-importance of labor time relative to the knowledge of workers -- is the high point of the Grundrisse. People often allude to it, but rarely build upon it. Too bad. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel.

Re: [PEN-L] actual sado-monetarism

2005-01-02 Thread Daniel Davies
no but I'll look it up. Mark Steel (warning SWP member) touches on Isaac Newton's career as a counterfeiter-catcher in his lecture on the subject http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/marksteel_newton.shtml dd -Original Message- From: PEN-L list [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of michael

Re: [PEN-L] Virno: Post-Fordism is the empirical realization of the 'Fragment on Machines'

2005-01-02 Thread tom walker
I guess that really is my question about Virno. Does he build on the analysis or does he merely allude to it and then go off on some other tangent? In thesis number 3, Virno challenges Gorz's (and, by derivation, Rifkin's) end of work analysis, which might be seen as another, unacknowledged, take

Re: [PEN-L] Virno: Post-Fordism is the empirical realization of the 'Fragment on Machines'

2005-01-02 Thread Michael Perelman
just what you posted. I did not see the book. On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 11:06:43PM -0500, tom walker wrote: Michael, Could you expand? Are you referring only to the thesis I posted or to the ten theses or to the book? Just with reference to a few of the other theses, Virno announces a

[PEN-L] Swans: Jan 3, 2005

2005-01-02 Thread Louis Proyect
http://www.swans.com/ January 3, 2005 -- In this issue: Note from the Editor: We've been in the midst of an unending, year- end/new year rain storm, trying to keep our spirits up in the coldness, darkness and dampness of our environment. Hey, maybe we should have gone on the Love Boat Cruise that

[PEN-L] romanticism

2005-01-02 Thread Devine, James
[was: RE: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755] CC wrote: ...Although, since romantic is such a slippery (and infinitely expansive) concept, it is equally true to say that it is neither the inspiration nor the cause of anything, but just the name of everything. It is at least arguable that marxism,