Re: [PEN-L] slime mold socialism

I agree we should be talking about communism as well as socialism. Where the repressive powers of the state to stop street demonstrations are increasingly weak (in practice) and where the market network is quite sophisticated, values other than that of commodity exchange value can be incorporated

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Tom Walker wrote: Personally, I think the question can better be addressed through allegory and emblem than through analysis and evidence. Aren’t analysis and evidence a continuation of allegory and emblem with other means? Mohammad MAljoo

Re: [PEN-L] Why the Anti-War Movement Must Confront Bipartisan Support for the Twin Occupations

I seem to remember activists telling Martin Luther King not to branch out into peace activities, lest he cut his support for civil rights. Plus ça change,... At 23:13 10/03/05, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote: Among anti-war coalitions and organizations, there have always been voices that said that

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Off the top of my head: Charles Bean's JEL article of a few years ago refuted the idea that making it hard to fire workers increased unemployment. Ormond's book mentions that Europe's work rules have been around for fifty years, and during most of that time their growth rate exceeded that of

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

The German employment situation is complicated by the fact of political reunification after 1989, which, in economic terms, was a hostile takeover of one economy (GDR) by another (FRG). Within about three years of the opening of the Berlin wall, about 40% of the workers in East Germany were laid

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Shades of Deirdre. At 11:38 11/03/05, you wrote: Tom Walker wrote: Personally, I think the question can better be addressed through allegory and emblem than through analysis and evidence. Aren't analysis and evidence a continuation of allegory and emblem with other means? Mohammad MAljoo

[PEN-L] Edumacated workers and the US labor market

[This throws a bit of a kludge into Bill Gates panglossian strategy for overcoming the shortcomings of US education] http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-jobless11mar11,0,1675228.story THE NATION Long-Term Jobless Find a Degree Just Isn't Working By Nicholas Riccardi Times Staff Writer March

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

In raw material producing economies like oil rent based economies.. economic rent arising from the swing influences growth with little impact on job creation. Do you Yahoo!? Make Yahoo! your home page

Re: [PEN-L] Edumacated workers and the US labor market

reforming education seems a good idea anyway. First get rid of no child left behind... Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine From: PEN-L list on behalf of Eubulides [This throws a bit of a kludge into Bill Gates panglossian strategy for

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

I hate to sound like J-P Sartre, who insisted on following consciousness with of all the time, but one key question is what kind of growth are we talking about? growth of _what_? The orthodox economics business view is that growth is of real GDP, which is Good. In that case, growth means the

Re: [PEN-L] slime mold socialism

For a largely decentralized vision of socialism -- as opposed to the distant utopia of communism -- I recommend Charlie Andrews' labor republic in his FROM CAPITALISM TO EQUALITY. It's not market socialism (though some might quibble about definitions). Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[PEN-L] Debate over immediate withdrawal

Published on Thursday, March 10, 2005 by CommonDreams.org MoveOn.org: Making Peace With the War in Iraq by Norman Solomon Sadly, it has come to this. Two years after the invasion of Iraq, the online powerhouse MoveOn.org -- which built most of its member base with a strong antiwar message -- is

[PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

What who are you advising on a position to take ? The indigenous folks Jim Craven was advising ? If so , seems best advice is stay out of it, as Jim said. Taiwan is not really claiming to have derived from some separate kinbased, hunting and gathering/horticultural society than China as the

[PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

At dinner this evening a friend of mine made the claim that the easier it is to fire workers, the better the growth rate of the economy --- That's Germany's problem right now, he said, perhaps with good reason. Is there any empirical support or refutation of this? Bill ^^ CB: Somebody

Re: [PEN-L] Worker rights versus growth

Right on. At 16:12 11/03/05, you wrote: Robert Scott Gassler wrote: Shades of Deirdre. Yes, and I've been saying this since Deirdre was Don and since before I ever heard of her. Mohammad MAljoo Aren't analysis and evidence a continuation of allegory and emblem with other means? They are indeed

[PEN-L] Good Gödel, Batman!

Does Gödel Matter? The romantic's favorite mathematician didn't prove what you think he did. By Jordan Ellenberg the Washington Post's SLATE/Posted Thursday, March 10, 2005, at 4:27 AM PT The reticent and relentlessly abstract logician Kurt Gödel might seem an unlikely candidate for popular

[PEN-L] trying again: wave of democracy

This didn't come out with good margins at all, so I'm trying again. It is not democracy that's on the march in the Middle East Managed elections are the latest device to prop up pro-western regimes Seumas Milne Thursday March 10, 2005 The Guardian For weeks a western chorus has been

Re: [PEN-L] The Good Empire

From: Devine, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] If Ward C. is to be kicked out, we should kick Niall Ferguson out of academia too. Among others. I don't know what Ferguson's doing in academia to begin with. The British army, according to its website, is currently deployed in over 80 countries around the

Re: [PEN-L] US Social fascism: Bankruptcy law 2005

Agreed. . . In Michigan, Debbie Stabenow voted with Bush and the Republicans to make bankruptcy much more difficult for the 1.5 million citizens pushed there every year. The credit card lobby is besides itself with glee. Carl Levin voted against Bush, by the way. Read, "Your Money or Your

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Speaking of lying down with wolves, what do the names Wolfowitz and Wolfensohn mean in German? What does Alterman mean? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://myweb.lmu.edu/jdevine/ I don't know about German, but Alter means old in Yiddish. My parents used to refer to an elderly person

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Why does it matter so much what liberals say and do? It's not 1970 anymore. Doug

Re: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan

Jim Devine writes: To me, I see no reason to change national boundaries (e.g., merging China and Taiwan) unless there are really good reasons. The thing is that almost all Chinese living on the mainland (and almost half in Taiwan?) don't see China/Taiwan as separate national boundaries. They

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Maybe it's because the number of liberals has fallen so much that it's getting to where there almost as few as those on the left? They're getting so that liberal organizations are just as small and pitiful as leftist sects, so we can see them as competitors? Jim Devine, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PEN-L] When liberals lie down with wolves

Devine, James wrote: I think that's the right attitude. Whether someone is a liberal is of secondary or tertiary or even lowerary importance. Labels are much less important than concrete issues of politics. I believe Marx had something along that line to say in the Critique of the Gotha

[PEN-L] BAY AREA PORTS SHUT DOWN TO COMMERCIAL SHIPPING

BAY AREA PORTS SHUT DOWN TO COMMERCIAL SHIPPING - NO CARGO WILL MOVE ON MARCH 19TH !!! Longshore and Warehouse Union Local 10 announced on March 9 that it will honor the International Day of Protest Against the U.S. War and Occupation of Iraq by not working any cargo in San Francisco Bay

[PEN-L] Taiwan vs. PRC

[was: RE: [PEN-L] Jim Craven on Taiwan] I wrote: To me, I see no reason to change national boundaries (e.g., merging China and Taiwan) unless there are really good reasons. Thomas Lepeardo writes:The thing is that almost all Chinese living on the mainland (and almost half in Taiwan?) don't see

[PEN-L] overcapacity again

I just found this sorting through some notes. John R. Bunting. 1964. The Hidden Face of Free Enterprise: The Strange Economics of the American Businessman (NY: McGraw Hill). He was a vice president of the Philadelphia branch of the Federal Reserve Bank. 104: A Philadelphia banker in 1962 said

[PEN-L] Hunting Down Computer Pirates and Reputation Terrorists

Hunting Down 'Computer Pirates' and 'Reputation Terrorists': http://montages.blogspot.com/2005/03/hunting-down-computer-pirates-and.html. -- Yoshie * Critical Montages: http://montages.blogspot.com/ * Greens for Nader: http://greensfornader.net/ * Bring Them Home Now!