[PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Dan Scanlan
U.S. Engaging in Nuclear War Monday 30th May 2005 (20h28): www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news03.htm Depleted Uranium: A Scientific Perspective An Interview With LEUREN MORET, Geoscientist Interview Conducted By W. Leon Smith and Nathan Diebenow Leuren Moret is a geoscientist who works almost

[PEN-L] The service economy

2005-06-01 Thread Charles Brown
From: Michael Perelman Shouldn't it be the economy of immigrant servants? ^^^ Import a servant from anywhere on the globe. Charles

[PEN-L] Today's GAO Reports - June 1, 2005 [WTO trade talks and private pensions]

2005-06-01 Thread Autoplectic
The Government Accountability Office (GAO) today released the following reports: REPORTS 1. Private Pensions: Recent Experiences of Large Defined Benefit Plans Illustrate Weaknesses in Funding Rules. GAO-05-294, May 31. http://www.gao.gov/cgi-bin/getrpt?GAO-05-294 Highlights -

[PEN-L] Another leftist EU Constitution booster

2005-06-01 Thread Louis Proyect
(Ian Williams is another leftist supporter of the EU Constitution along with Toni Negri. Williams distinguished himself as a long-time supporter of NATO's wars in the Balkans.) Just Say Non to Progressive Values By Ian Williams, AlterNet. Posted June 1, 2005. The French predictably voted non!

[PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Charles Brown
make my day From: Dan Scanlan U.S. Engaging in Nuclear War ^^^ CB: In part, all the sound and fury over Iraq having W'sMD is to divert attention demogogically from the true source of threat of mass destruction, the United States of America.

[PEN-L] Wounded Knee Museum

2005-06-01 Thread Stephen Philion
I just came back from a trip to the Black Hills of South Dakota, wanted to recommend the Wounded Knee Museum, located in Wall, SD. It's got an excellent website that features a good number of the timeline/history exhibits: http://www.woundedkneemuseum.org/main_menu.html Steve

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Bill Lear
On Wednesday, June 1, 2005 at 00:30:21 (-0700) Dan Scanlan writes: U.S. Engaging in Nuclear War Monday 30th May 2005 (20h28): www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news03.htm Depleted Uranium: A Scientific Perspective ... This is truly frightening. Are there any other sources for information on this

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Michael Perelman
I thought that the alpha particles emitted were too large to enter the skin; that only after the DU was ignited and the DU inhaled does it become dangerous. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at ecst.csuchico.edu

[PEN-L] Letter to a Bard Professor

2005-06-01 Thread Louis Proyect
Dear Professor Mark Danner, One of the reasons I didn't attend my Bard College 40th anniversary reunion this year is that I don't feel any connection to a school that Leon Botstein has transformed after his own image, namely a hodge-podge of the NY Review of Books, George Soros's latest project

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Carrol Cox
Michael Perelman wrote: I thought that the alpha particles emitted were too large to enter the skin; that only after the DU was ignited and the DU inhaled does it become dangerous. There is a good deal of debate, and seemingly little solid information, in reference to the radiation danger,

[PEN-L] Ellsberg on Deep throat

2005-06-01 Thread Dan Scanlan
Edited comments by Daniel Ellsberg on the Pat Thurston Show, KSRO, Santa Rosa, CA: Mark Felt understandably felt a conflict of loyalties here, to his secrecy oath, his agency, and to the president on one hand, and on the other hand, to the Constitution, which is what he and I had taken an

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Eugene Coyle
I heard a snippet of an interview with Leuren Moret. I have no idea of how to evaluate the radiation science assertions she made. But when she ventured into another subject I was not impressed -- felt she was pontificating confidently about things she didn't know much about. Offputting. Gene

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Les Schaffer
Michael Perelman wrote: I thought that the alpha particles emitted were too large to enter the skin; that only after the DU was ignited and the DU inhaled does it become dangerous. this is precisely what makes it so dangerous from a radiological perspective. after inhaling, the DU

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Michael Perelman
Thanks, Les for the information. The part that struck me as shady was that people sitting on munition boxes would be likely to get rectal cancer. I did not think that externally, the alpha particles posed much of a hazard. DU is too important a subject for people to discredit themselves

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Les Schaffer
Michael Perelman wrote: Thanks, Les for the information. The part that struck me as shady was that people sitting on munition boxes would be likely to get rectal cancer. ugh. DU is too important a subject for people to discredit themselves though exxageration. totally agreed. i

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Dan Scanlan
quacks are part of the weather Quacks precede the ducks. Exaggeration pushes out the boundaries, creates dialogue where there was none. The nation has been sitting on boxes of radioactive ammunition my entire life, and the nation does have rectal cancer, compounded by visionary cancer from the

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Jim Devine
calling Dubya a case of rectal cancer seems unnecessarily kind. On 6/1/05, Dan Scanlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quacks are part of the weather Quacks precede the ducks. Exaggeration pushes out the boundaries, creates dialogue where there was none. The nation has been sitting on boxes of

[PEN-L] Dumb and dumber

2005-06-01 Thread Louis Proyect
When Christopher met Peter Pugnacious commentators Christopher and Peter Hitchens have not spoken to each other since a row over a joke about Stalinism four years ago. Here is an extended transcript of their encounter at the Hay literary festival when they came together under the auspices of a

[PEN-L] Interesting looking book; less than interesting review

2005-06-01 Thread Louis Proyect
H-NET BOOK REVIEW Published by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (March, 2005) Anne E. Mosher. _Capital's Utopia: The Steel Industry's Search for Urban Order at Vandergrift, 1854-1916_. Baltimore: Johns Hopkins University Press, 2003. x + 249 pp. Illustrations, maps, notes, bibliography, index. $45.00 (cloth),

Re: [PEN-L] make my day

2005-06-01 Thread Dan Scanlan
On Jun 1, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Jim Devine wrote: calling Dubya a case of rectal cancer seems unnecessarily kind. Who was it who said Dubya's not necessarily an anal retentive. He's merely hanging on to the first watermelon seed he ever swallowed.?

[PEN-L] Keynes among most harmful books of 19th 20 century

2005-06-01 Thread Brian McKenna
see: http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=7591 Marx on it twice. . .also Silent Spring and Adorno. . . Brian

Re: [PEN-L] Keynes among most harmful books of 19th 20 century

2005-06-01 Thread Michael Perelman
It is a good indicator of the mindset of the right wing. What books would we include as the most effective in promoting progressive changes in the 20th C.? By the way, why wouldn't Silent Spring rank higher than Paul Ehrlich? On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 04:22:12PM -0400, Brian McKenna wrote:

[PEN-L] multitudes against Empire

2005-06-01 Thread Chris Burford
The terminology is out of fashion, but judging from the Dutch referendum, the habit is not. In country after country in Europe the population is disaffected with the government, and core countries of the European Union have become discontented with the pan European ideal. There is a tone of