Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-05 Thread Gassler Robert
BTW, what's your alternative. (I am NOT telling you to put up or shut up. But I do think that it's best to have alternative rather than simply trashing the hegemonic school of economics. If there's no alternative, good-hearted and even smart lefty economists might be tempted to drink the kool-aid

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-05 Thread Gassler Robert
BTW, what's your alternative. (I am NOT telling you to put up or shut up. But I do think that it's best to have alternative rather than simply trashing the hegemonic school of economics. If there's no alternative, good-hearted and even smart lefty economists might be tempted to drink the kool-aid

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-05 Thread Jim Devine
me: BTW, what's your alternative. (I am NOT telling you to put up or shut up. But I do think that it's best to have alternative rather than simply trashing the hegemonic school of economics. If there's no alternative, good-hearted and even smart lefty economists might be tempted to drink the

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-05 Thread Sean Andrews
On 10/5/07, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, at least in economics, Marxists don't have a very coherent paradigm. Maybe comprehensive, but not coherent. It's like Beirut in the 1970s... But it seems to me that the Marxist approach, if it can really be described as such, is bascially

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-05 Thread Gassler Robert
me: BTW, what's your alternative. (I am NOT telling you to put up or shut up. But I do think that it's best to have alternative rather than simply trashing the hegemonic school of economics. If there's no alternative, good-hearted and even smart lefty economists might be tempted to drink the

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
On 10/3/07, raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Far from challenging it, Blinder and the behaviorists are immeasurably strengthening the establishment thinking by providing a safety-valve for dissent. It's a mistake to combine Blinder with the behaviorists (though they both begin with B). The

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-04 Thread raghu
On 10/4/07, Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/3/07, raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Far from challenging it, Blinder and the behaviorists are immeasurably strengthening the establishment thinking by providing a safety-valve for dissent. It's a mistake to combine Blinder with the

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-04 Thread Michael Perelman
The article moved the boundaries of discourse far to the right. Blinder as a leftist!!! Greenspan's 2d in command. Whose works include Alan Blinder. 1987. Hard Heads, Soft Hearts: Tough-Minded Economics for a Just Society (Reading, MA: Addison-Wesley). Only Jim D. represented the left, while

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
On 10/4/07, raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And the behaviorists? Will their work ever produce more than clever anecdotes for Steven Levitt? FWIW, Leavitt doesn't do experiments. He's not a behavioral economist. Rare corner cases where the normal laws of rational behavior do not apply, in

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-04 Thread Jim Devine
On 10/4/07, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The article moved the boundaries of discourse far to the right. that's definitely true. It's all this crap about George Mason Unilackofdiversity. -- Jim Devine / The truth is at once less sinister and more dangerous. -- Naomi Klein.

[PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-03 Thread Sean Andrews
[I didn't see this posted on these lists, and thought people would be interested in knowing that pro-market economists are still not the mainstream. It's good to know we've got that cleared up. I guess the question is, of economists are really so split on all of this, then why is there the

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics, redux

2007-10-03 Thread raghu
It is really amusing that the likes of Alan Blinder are being pointed to as heretics. What is his heresy? He dared to suggest that maybe, just maybe there are some negative effects from globalization on US workers. The title of the article that makes this sacrilegious point: Free Trade's Great,

[PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Devine
July 11, 2007 / New York TIMES. [with pictures of Fred Lee and Alan Blinder] In Economics Departments, a Growing Will to Debate Fundamental Assumptions By PATRICIA COHEN For many economists, questioning free-market orthodoxy is akin to expressing a belief in intelligent design at a Darwin

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Michael Perelman
I get the impression now that the mainstream media is becoming more like a blog. A story appears -- this time in the Nation -- and suddenly all the media pick it up and modify it. Much cheaper than investigative reporting, reporting can be very influential. Judith Miller and Michael Gordon

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Devine
On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get the impression now that the mainstream media is becoming more like a blog. now becoming more like a blog? when wasn't it that way? Pack journalism has been around for a very long time, while true investigative journalism has always

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Pack journalism is old news. But it used to revolve around stories like Senator Vitter, bless his soul. Now, it has spread to areas of little pressing interest. -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail michael at

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Devine
On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pack journalism is old news. But it used to revolve around stories like Senator Vitter, bless his soul. Now, it has spread to areas of little pressing interest. like heterodox economics? -- Jim Devine / The tooth fairy teaches

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Do you think that the article really gave a flavor of what is going on. It even has one of its heterodox representative (Rodrik) saying that the hets are wrong. On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:01:27PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: like heterodox economics? -- Jim Devine / The tooth fairy teaches

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Devine
that's changing the question. On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think that the article really gave a flavor of what is going on. It even has one of its heterodox representative (Rodrik) saying that the hets are wrong. On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 01:01:27PM -0700, Jim

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Michael Perelman
Sorry. Even a serious subject can be treated as minor squabbles about personalities. On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 02:18:38PM -0700, Jim Devine wrote: that's changing the question. On 7/11/07, Michael Perelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you think that the article really gave a flavor of what

Re: [PEN-L] heterodox economics in the news

2007-07-11 Thread Jim Devine
Michael Perelman wrote: Sorry. Even a serious subject can be treated as minor squabbles about personalities. I don't think it's just about personalities. For example: There is much too much ideology, said Alan S. Blinder,... Economics, he added, is often a triumph of theory over fact. Mr.

[PEN-L] Heterodox Economics

2005-01-20 Thread Chris Burford
Does anyone know any of the organisations in this Association? and have a recommendation? http://hetecon.com/ Chris Burford London

Re: [PEN-L] Heterodox Economics

2005-01-20 Thread g kohler
Q: “Does anyone know any of the organisations in this Association? and have a recommendation? http://hetecon.com/” A: The European Memorandum Group is fighting for leftist economic policies (post-Keynesian style) in Europe, includes leftist economists from France, Germany, others. Critical of the

Re: [PEN-L] Heterodox Economics

2005-01-20 Thread Lee, Frederic
, 2005 2:04 AM To: PEN-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Subject: [PEN-L] Heterodox Economics Does anyone know any of the organisations in this Association? and have a recommendation? http://hetecon.com/ Chris Burford London