[PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Chris Burford
It occurs to me that the Aceh earthquake and its consequences will have a comparable impact to that of the great Lisbon earthquake of 1755 in influencing the European enlightenment and the push for bourgeois democracy. http://nisee.berkeley.edu/lisbon/ Although not the strongest or most deadly

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Perelman, Michael
I remember learning as an undergrad that the earthquake had a profound effect on European psychology -- at least among the intellectuals. It suggested that reason was incapable of taking total control and helped to fuel the romantic movement, which in turn helped to inspire the Nazis. Michael

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Perelman, Michael wrote: the romantic movement, which in turn helped to inspire the Nazis. O come now. This could be true only in so far as one could affirm the romantic movement, which in turn helped inspire the birth of someone in 1897, the St. Louis Exposition, the songs when johnny comes

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Carrol Cox
Bill Lear wrote: On Sunday, January 2, 2005 at 17:54:01 (-0600) Carrol Cox writes: Perelman, Michael wrote: the romantic movement, which in turn helped to inspire the Nazis. O come now. This could be true only in so far as ... You are confusing causing with inspiring. The Nazis were

Re: [PEN-L] Lisbon Earthquake 1755

2005-01-02 Thread Daniel Davies
I'm sure it can be argued the other way, but orthodoxy in the Welsh school system was that romanticism came to a definitive end in Flanders fields 1914-1918 and anything after that is modern. Of course, I was also basically taught that the entirety of history since the Romans was an inexorable