Mossadegh CIA (coup of 1953 inside Iran)

2001-11-19 Thread Mohammad Maljoo
A New video: For the 1st time after nearly 50 years, the facts about the CIA led coup against Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh is told by ex-CIA officers and western politicians. A rare look at the history and CIA's involvement in toppling foreign governments:

_Inside Afghanistan_ _The Black Tulip_

2001-11-19 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
Has anyone seen _Inside Afghanistan_ and _The Black Tulip_, both directed by Bruce Pacho Lane (his resume is at http://www.docfilm.com/RESUME.htm)? Info on _Inside Afghanistan_ is available at http://www.docfilm.com/inside.htm, and _The Black Tulip_, at http://www.docfilm.com/tulip.htm. I

Re: Re: Re: Socialism Now

2001-11-19 Thread W.R. Needham
Greg Scoflield has raised interesting issues. I am more pessimitic than he. But there are some optimistic predetermined milestones. If one defines a democratic socialist society as one moving in the direction of equality of citizenship and equality of human rights then, from the Declaration of

Re: Re: Socialism Now

2001-11-19 Thread Frederick Guy
Just because companies have monopoly power and owe their power (property rights and all) to the state, doesn't mean that market mechanisms have become unimportant. Markets serve as a serious constraint on the choices open to the directors of almost any company. This is why I ask what you mean by

RE: Re: Re: Re: Socialism Now

2001-11-19 Thread Max Sawicky
The insurance case is on the table now. There is an interesting column today in the Post by Warren Buffet; his company sells insurance and lost a few billion last month. He makes what to me is a persuasive point that the costs of some disasters exceed the total capitalization of the industry,

Re: Socialism Now

2001-11-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Max's example of insurance is on the spot. Originally, as I understand it, insurance began with shipowners sharing risks among themselves. In this way, though individual shipwreck could destroy a prosperous shipowner. With the great fire of London of 1666, early capitalist business took note

The Vanishing Act

2001-11-19 Thread Charles Brown
The Vanishing Act By BOB HERBERT November 19, 2001 he U.S. unemployment rate rose sharply in October, to 5.4 percent, the biggest jump in five years. In New York, which is suffering the effects of a terrorist attack in the midst of an economic downturn, some 80,000 jobs were lost in

WSJ

2001-11-19 Thread Max Sawicky
There's some scintillating information on the front page of today's WSJ on responses to the recession. mbs

BLS Daily Report

2001-11-19 Thread Richardson_D
For the economists among us: how much does industrial production have to fall before the US is ineligible to be called an industrialized country? :-) Dave -- Monday, November 19 2001 Plunging energy prices caused consumer prices to drop 0.3 percent in October, the Bureau of Labor

RE: WSJ

2001-11-19 Thread Devine, James
Max, what are you talking about? all I can see is that there's a more positive attitude toward government provision of public goods. How is this scintillating? Please don't be so obscure. --Jim Devine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday,

Saving Private Taliban

2001-11-19 Thread Shane Mage
from the NYTimes (website 19/11): Several hundred Pakistani fighters are also believed to have sought refuge in Kunduz, including relatives of some powerful clerics, this intelligence official said. Saving them could improve

RE: Saving Private Taliban

2001-11-19 Thread Max Sawicky
No but I want to know how the planes ever managed to leave. mbs Is there anyone in the world who imagines that airplanes could fly into and out of this besieged terrorist stronghold without the explicit and deliberate approval of the highest US command authorities? Shane Mage Thunderbolt

Re: BLS Daily Report

2001-11-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Richardson_D wrote: For the economists among us: how much does industrial production have to fall before the US is ineligible to be called an industrialized country? :-) Boswell, James. 1934-64. Life of Johnson, 6 vols. (Oxford: Oxford University Press). ii, p. 464: Very little business

more on the end-to-end internet debate

2001-11-19 Thread ravi
someone recently posted an article by lessig on the end-to-end design of the internet and how the violation of that principle by emerging technologies is a disturbing trend (from the perspective of innovation etc). i responded with some thoughts and mentioned the resurgence of the end-to-end

Re: Socialism Now

2001-11-19 Thread Chris Burford
At 19/11/01 10:06 -0800, you wrote: Max's example of insurance is on the spot. Originally, as I understand it, insurance began with shipowners sharing risks among themselves. In this way, though individual shipwreck could destroy a prosperous shipowner. With the great fire of London of 1666,

Re: Re: Re: Re: OUP USA: Why Poverty Persists in India

2001-11-19 Thread ravi
Anthony D'Costa wrote: As starters I suggest reading Pranab Bardhan's The Political Economy of Development in India (the most recent edition). A slim and yet a very powerful book. thanks for this (and other) pointers. i ordered the above book and received it friday. it was a gripping

Re: Re: Socialism Now

2001-11-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Chris, the Dutch led in financial innovations of all kinds. Annuities preceded insurance, I believe. Shipping insurance preceded fire insurance. Fire insurance was considered to be a public service. Ben Franklin worked on introducing fire insurance in Pennsylvania, I believe -- working from

First Insurance Company

2001-11-19 Thread Chris Burford
http://www.irmi.com/expert/articles/klein002.asp Another historical gem, this time from the International Risk Management Institute again courtesy of Google. This is the comment on the author of Marx's second footnote in Capital, and links up with Michael's point about fire insurance:

Re: First Insurance Company

2001-11-19 Thread Michael Perelman
Barbon was a fascinating character, who made a fortune in rebuilding London. He also wrote economics tracts which support a subjective theory of value On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 11:59:00PM +, Chris Burford wrote: http://www.irmi.com/expert/articles/klein002.asp Another historical

Re: Socialism Now

2001-11-19 Thread Greg Schofield
Actually Fred I owe you and others on the list an apology. I used the term market loosely, when I should have used the phrase free market. The exchange of goods under any conditions is a market otherwise exchange-value could never be realisied. However, the free market where producers compete

Re: Socialism Now (Socialisation)

2001-11-19 Thread Greg Schofield
Socialisation and socialism with good reason are seen as similar propositions. The tendency within capital for the approrpriators to appropriate one another leads to greater and greater socialisation of production quite apart from the role that the working class may play politically. Class is

Re: Socialism Now (the UN Charters)

2001-11-19 Thread Greg Schofield
I do not disagree with W.-Robert Needham on the progressive nature of much of the best that defines the UN. The UN, despite all things that can be said against it, stands as clarifying institution in many regards. One its primary charter derived from the real aspirations of the millions who

Afghanistan: A Forgotten Chapter (by John Ryan)

2001-11-19 Thread Yoshie Furuhashi
John Ryan, Afghanistan: A Forgotten Chapter, _Canadian Dimension_ (November/December 2001) at http://www.canadiandimension.mb.ca/v35/v35_6jr.htm. Ellen Meiksins Wood, War Without Boundaries, _Canadian Dimension_ (November/December 2001) at http://www.canadiandimension.mb.ca/v35/v35_6ew.htm.

Re: Mossadegh CIA (coup of 1953 inside Iran)

2001-11-19 Thread Carrol Cox
It should be interesting, but it should not be taken as buttressing various conspiracy theories. It has been an open secret from the very beginning (even boasted of by some of its participants) that the CIA arranged the coup. One of my basic objections to conspiracy theories is that they confuse

A. G. Frank on the Current Situation

2001-11-19 Thread michael perelman
Gunder Frank thought that you might be interested in his comments on Jay Moore's post. Jay Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes in a-list on 16th November and ANDRE GUNDER FRANK quotes and comments: If the IMF is right, a global economic recovery could start sometime around the middle of

Debray and Guevara

2001-11-19 Thread Karl Carlile
A programme broadcast on Irish tv implies that it was Regis Debray that betrayed Che Guevara and not the artist. We see a tv team trying to interview a very uncomfortable Debray over the issue. He was quite uncooperative to say the least. Karl Carlile Be free to visit the web site of the