Joseph Catron: For those who aren't familiar with Lou, he's a man who cares
very little about facts. You can make of it what you will, but disseminating
accurate information is not one of his top priorities (nor low ones). To be
frank, he seems to make most of it up as he goes, perhaps assuming
Louis Proyect writes: The Italian fascists were on the side of the
Donetsk-Luhansk separatists in 2014. So basically I was 100 percent right
and you were 100 percent wrong.
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And the relevant political considerations are not changed by _either_ set of
facts. That is why I objected so
On 9/15/15 2:00 PM, Carrol Cox wrote:
> Since Charlie has been responding on the subject line,
> perhaps he could give us a brief note on that mysterious label.
>
> Carrol
How about this instead:
It seems that a week does not go by without some incident in Eastern
Europe involving the inhumane
LP: "I was not talking about how the Red Army was deployed across Europe
to defeat the Nazis. I was talking about how it was used to strangle the
Hungarian Revolution, the Czech revolution in 1968, etc."
First, words mean what they say, not what LP re-interprets his words to
mean later. "The
Please, let's drop the personal invective.
Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
Chico, CA 95929
Tel. 530-898-5321
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Yeah, it's about time to put Charley in a spam filter.
On 9/15/15 12:25 PM, Perelman, Michael wrote:
> Please, let's drop the personal invective.
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On 9/15/15 11:38 AM, Charlie wrote:>
> Third, Stalin died in 1953, and immediate changes began in the CPSU.
> Khrushchev's lying speech about Stalin in 1956 came a few months before
> Hungary.
So weird to see Khrushchev's revelations described as a lie but then
again Charley has referred people
I haven't followed any arguments not made _on the list_ -- and hence never
click naked URLS. Since Charlie has been responding on the subject line,
perhaps he could give us a brief note on that mysterious label.
Carrol
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Thanks. It’s encouraging to see this dissent in the party, but when Sanders
endorses Clinton, as he has promised, it’s more likely most of his supporters
will fall away and a few will join the PDA rather than continue to organize as
you suggest after the election. The steam will go out of the
Well, I don't support the third party project in the United States; I don't
think it is at all likely to succeed in helping to accomplish anything
tangible and useful in any future that we can see; indeed, I hope that the
third party project in the U.S. will continue to be at least as irrelevant
On 9/15/15 4:15 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> I certainly don't equate mobilization with seceding from mainstream
> political engagement; quite the contrary, seceding from mainstream
> political engagement is a form of demobilization.
>
Maybe you don't see the need for radical solutions to America's
For those who aren't familiar with Lou, he's a man who cares very little
about facts. You can make of it what you will, but
disseminating accurate information is not one of his top priorities (nor
low ones). To be frank, he seems to make most of it up as he goes, perhaps
assuming his decent talent
A key point is that the US is fundamentally unlike the UK and unlike Europe
with respect to the matter - the word "party" has a completely different
meaning. In the European context, capturing party institutions through
internal party elections can actually mean something fairly decisive. In
the
On 9/15/15 4:36 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> If Clinton is so awful - and I agree that she is - why not help Sanders
> defeat her, instead of assuming that he will lose to her? According to
> recent polls, Sanders is leading her in Iowa and New Hampshire, with
> more than 50% in New Hampshire.
How
> But Forza Nuova finally came around to seeing the merit of Great Russian
> chauvinism as reported in an Italian newspaper on March 23, 2015 (excuse
> the Google translation, please):
>
This is a more useful account:
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
MARCH 22, 2015
European Far-Right Politicians in Russia
On 9/15/15 4:24 PM, Joseph Catron wrote:
> For those who aren't familiar with Lou, he's a man who cares very little
> about facts. You can make of it what you will, but
> disseminating accurate information is not one of his top priorities (nor
> low ones). To be frank, he seems to make most of it
If Clinton is so awful - and I agree that she is - why not help Sanders
defeat her, instead of assuming that he will lose to her? According to
recent polls, Sanders is leading her in Iowa and New Hampshire, with more
than 50% in New Hampshire.
Isn't it odd that 50% of Democrats in New Hampshire
On 9/15/15 4:24 PM, Joseph Catron wrote:
> For those who aren't familiar with Lou, he's a man who cares very little
> about facts. You can make of it what you will, but
> disseminating accurate information is not one of his top priorities (nor
> low ones). To be frank, he seems to make most of it
You may be misunderstanding me.
I’m skeptical you can ever have a viable third party movement in the US or
elsewhere without an exodus of deeply disaffected supporters from the major
left-centre party, perhaps preceded by an unsuccessful internal struggle to
change its leadership and
The same time that you used to trash Sanders for your expectation that he
will endorse Hillary if he loses you could have used to praise Sanders for
being the main obstacle right now to her coronation. If your words matter
one way, they matter the other way.
By the way, I'm just curious, what is
It's worth noting, though, that Sanders is mobilizing a lot of people to do
more than be mere "supporters." There is an attempt to turn volunteers into
real organizers - people who organize events on their own; people who talk
to people they don't know on their own and try to have "organizing
I’ve often argued that any serious mass protest against declining living
standards would express itself both inside and outside the established
left-centre parties - with the initial impulse registering more strongly on the
inside than on the outside.
Accordingly, I’ve supported equally those
On 9/15/15 7:16 AM, Marv Gandall wrote:
>
> I thought this thread was about the origins of the Cold War. At issue
> is whether “the encroachment of NATO at the doorstep of Russia is a
> direct outcome of the encroachment of the Red Army on nations
> throughout Eastern Europe.”
>
> Fact is that the
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