Mathematician on Coronavirus vs. Civil Rights - Just 45 Minutes From
   Attack...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl7t9y-JtTo
Comparing the lockdown to Iraq war, WWI and WWII etc etc
Walking into an open prison voluntarily?
Orwell, Orson Welles, WMD and the Emperors New Clothes rolled into one
10,000 natural deaths - and we give up our freedoms  - indefinitely - surely Boris would never do that???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl7t9y-JtTo

Wonderfully entertaining and tightly argued statistical presentation - from the heart - for those who dare to think critically
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl7t9y-JtTo>

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl7t9y-JtTo>TG


On 01/04/20 20:35, Alexa Clarke wrote:
Thanks for sharing this Simon.

However the data used is now out of date. As the deaths mount up (& deaths lag reported cases by c.2-4weeks) this casts doubt on the hypothesis. The fatalities from Diamond Princess now stand at 11; a case fatality ratio of 1.5% and 15 patients remain in a critical condition, more than a month after disembarking. Were these critically ill patients being treated in other countries where ICU beds are over-run, then ventilators may have been given to other patients.

Furthermore, it transpires that many countries, including the UK are only recording hospital deaths and even the hospital figures may be materially understated (Kings et al). Then there is the whole question of reliability of the Chinese data. All of these factors combined could put the real current death rate at closer to 200,000, all in the space of c.3 months. Add in that deaths lag cases by 2-4 weeks, then things could be looking pretty grim (particularly in the US, Spain and France).

The article gives an interesting perspective on colds and other common viruses and was thought provoking. Thanks again for sharing.

Best wishes
Lexie

On Tuesday, 31 March 2020, 22:38:40 BST, Simon Fairlie chapt...@tlio.org.uk [Diggers350] <diggers350-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


The Oxford study is widely regarded as unreliable and is completely incomprehensible to anyone who is not an epidemiologist.  A more accessible critique of the Imperial College view can be found here.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/

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On 31 Mar 2020, at 09:34, Tony Gosling t...@cultureshop.org.uk <mailto:t...@cultureshop.org.uk> [Diggers350] <diggers350-nore...@yahoogroups.com <mailto:diggers350-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:



And didn't we develop Herd Immunity to measles in the 21st century? Yes, according to one 'discredited' doctor
Man, Measles, and Make-believe - Andrew Wakefield, MBBS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MgMN-rhi8g
AutismOne Media - Published on 6 Jun 2019

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Coronavirus may have infected half of UK population — Oxford study*
https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

New epidemiological model shows urgent need for large-scale testing
If the results of the study are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment

Clive Cookson, Science Editor March 25 2020

The new coronavirus may already have infected far more people in the UK than scientists had previously estimated — perhaps as much as half the population — according to modelling by researchers at the University of Oxford.

If the results are confirmed, they imply that fewer than one in a thousand of those infected with Covid-19 become ill enough to need hospital treatment, said Sunetra Gupta, professor of theoretical epidemiology, who led the study. The vast majority develop very mild symptoms or none at all.

However, the modelling by Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group has been challenged by other scientists. They have pointed out that the study presents possible scenarios — based on assumptions about the nature of the virus, its virulence and its arrival from China — that contradict those supported by most epidemiologists.

The Oxford research suggests that Covid-19 reached the UK by mid-January at the latest and perhaps as early as December. It spread invisibly for a month or more before the first transmissions within the UK were officially recorded at the end of February and the epidemic started to grow exponentially.

“We need immediately to begin large-scale serological surveys — antibody testing — to assess what stage of the epidemic we are in now,” Prof Gupta said.

The research presents a very different view of the epidemic to the modelling at Imperial College London, which has strongly influenced government policy. “I am surprised that there has been such unqualified acceptance of the Imperial model,” said Prof Gupta.

However, she was reluctant to criticise the government for shutting down the country to suppress viral spread, because the accuracy of the Oxford model has not yet been confirmed and, even if it is correct, social distancing will reduce the number of people becoming seriously ill and relieve severe pressure on the NHS during the peak of the epidemic.

The Oxford study is based on what is known as a “susceptibility-infected-recovered model” of Covid-19, built up from case and death reports from the UK and Italy. The researchers made what they regard as the most plausible assumptions about the behaviour of the virus.

The modelling brings back into focus “herd immunity”, the idea that the virus will stop spreading when enough people have become resistant to it because they have already been infected. The government abandoned its unofficial herd immunity strategy — allowing controlled spread of infection — after its scientific advisers said this would swamp the National Health Service with critically ill patients.

But the Oxford results would mean the country had already acquired substantial herd immunity through the unrecognised spread of Covid-19 over more than two months. If the findings are confirmed by testing, then the current restrictions could be removed much sooner than ministers have indicated.

Although some experts have shed doubt on the strength and length of the human immune response to the virus, Prof Gupta said the emerging evidence made her confident that humanity would build up herd immunity against Covid-19.

To provide the necessary evidence, the Oxford group is working with colleagues at the Universities of Cambridge and Kent to start antibody testing on the general population as soon as possible, using specialised “neutralisation assays which provide reliable readout of protective immunity,” Prof Gupta said. They hope to start testing later this week and obtain preliminary results within a few days.

This article has been amended since original publication to clarify the fact that the modelling is controversial and its assumptions have been contested by other scientists.

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 From South America, where payment must be made with subtlety, the Bormann 
organization has made a substantial contribution. It has drawn many of the 
brightest Jewish businessmen into a participatory role in the development of 
many of its corporations, and many of these Jews share their prosperity most 
generously with Israel. If their proposals are sound, they are even provided 
with a specially dispensed venture capital fund. I spoke with one Jewish 
businessmen in Hartford, Connecticut. He had arrived there quite unknown 
several years before our conversation, but with Bormann money as his leverage. 
Today he is more than a millionaire, a quiet leader in the community with a 
certain share of his profits earmarked as always for his venture capital 
benefactors. This has taken place in many other instances across America and 
demonstrates how Bormann’s people operate in the contemporary commercial world, 
in contrast to the fanciful nonsense with which Nazis are described in so much 
“literature.”

So much emphasis is placed on select Jewish participation in Bormann companies 
that when Adolf Eichmann was seized and taken to Tel Aviv to stand trial, it 
produced a shock wave in the Jewish and German communities of Buenos Aires. 
Jewish leaders informed the Israeli authorities in no uncertain terms that this 
must never happen again because a repetition would permanently rupture 
relations with the Germans of Latin America, as well as with the Bormann 
organization, and cut off the flow of Jewish money to Israel. It never happened 
again, and the pursuit of Bormann quieted down at the request of these Jewish 
leaders. He is residing in an Argentinian safe haven, protected by the most 
efficient German infrastructure in history as well as by all those whose 
prosperity depends on his well-being.
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From South America, where payment must be made with subtlety, the Bormann 
organization has made a substantial contribution. It has drawn many of the 
brightest Jewish businessmen into a participatory role in the development of 
many of its corporations, and many of these Jews share their prosperity most 
generously with Israel. If their proposals are sound, they are even provided 
with a specially dispensed venture capital fund. I spoke with one Jewish 
businessmen in Hartford, Connecticut. He had arrived there quite unknown 
several years before our conversation, but with Bormann money as his leverage. 
Today he is more than a millionaire, a quiet leader in the community with a 
certain share of his profits earmarked as always for his venture capital 
benefactors. This has taken place in many other instances across America and 
demonstrates how Bormann’s people operate in the contemporary commercial world, 
in contrast to the fanciful nonsense with which Nazis are described in so much 
“literature.”

So much emphasis is placed on select Jewish participation in Bormann companies 
that when Adolf Eichmann was seized and taken to Tel Aviv to stand trial, it 
produced a shock wave in the Jewish and German communities of Buenos Aires. 
Jewish leaders informed the Israeli authorities in no uncertain terms that this 
must never happen again because a repetition would permanently rupture 
relations with the Germans of Latin America, as well as with the Bormann 
organization, and cut off the flow of Jewish money to Israel. It never happened 
again, and the pursuit of Bormann quieted down at the request of these Jewish 
leaders. He is residing in an Argentinian safe haven, protected by the most 
efficient German infrastructure in history as well as by all those whose 
prosperity depends on his well-being.
http ://spitfirelist.com/books/martin-bormann-nazi-in-exile/

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Please consider seriously the reason why these elite institutions are not discussed in the mainstream press despite the immense financial and political power they wield? There are sick and evil occultists running the Western World. They are power mad lunatics like something from a kids cartoon with their fingers on the nuclear button! Armageddon is closer than you thought. Only God can save our souls from their clutches, at least that's my considered opinion - Tony

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