Re: dor and backwards compat (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple 0.49)

2004-11-02 Thread Michael G Schwern
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 12:19:08AM +0100, Abigail wrote: > While I won't deny 'err' may be used in many existing programs, I doubt > it's used more than 'lock' was before 'lock' was introduced as a keyword. Difference between lock() and err() is this. $ perl5.6.1 -wle 'sub lock { "foo" } print l

Re: dor and backwards compat (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Simple 0.49)

2004-11-02 Thread Abigail
On Fri, Oct 22, 2004 at 01:59:13AM -0700, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 01:05:06PM -0400, Michael G Schwern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 18, 2004 at 04:43:12PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > > > > Please consider 0.50 very soon, in which you fix 'err' cal

Re: Quality from the Beginning: Better Estimates

2004-11-02 Thread Peter Masiar
Mark Stosberg wrote: On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 07:45, Mark Stosberg wrote: So, what resources are recommended to consult to make great estimates? What habits to develop? Thanks to everyone for all the responses. There is one theme I haven't heard anyone mention: The purely scientific approach that I a

Re: Quality from the Beginning: Better Estimates

2004-11-02 Thread Stevan Little
Mark, There is one theme I haven't heard anyone mention: The purely scientific approach that I assume involves collecting a lot o data and using complex formulas. I think that may be because project estimation is more akin to alchemy and witchcraft than it is "hard science". :) Steve

Re: Quality from the Beginning: Better Estimates

2004-11-02 Thread Stevan Little
Mark, I think Jared and Andy both have made excellent suggestions, especially Andy's comment about breaking it down into manageable chunks. So, what resources are recommended to consult to make great estimates? What habits to develop? When I first started estimating projects I very often would ma

Re: Quality from the Beginning: Better Estimates

2004-11-02 Thread Mark Stosberg
On 2004-11-01, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 07:45, Mark Stosberg wrote: > >> So, what resources are recommended to consult to make great estimates? >> What habits to develop? > > I have two primary rules: > > 1) Don't make an estimate for something I haven't done bef

Re: Quality from the Beginning: Better Estimates

2004-11-02 Thread Mark Stosberg
On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 01:53:59PM -0800, Jared Rhine wrote: > [Mark == [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:45:34 + (UTC)] > > Mark> So, what resources are recommended to consult to make great > Mark> estimates? What habits to develop? > > Estimate only what you know... Thank you Ja