On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 18:40 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> Hmmm, chromatic lives in Beaverton...
You take that back! I moved to Hillsboro.
(Also, MAX doesn't stop anywhere near Krispy Kreme.)
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 11:28:52AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Donuts ? Did you say donuts !? What kind ?
Nearest Krispy Kreme is in Beaverton on RT 26 or Clackmas just off 205.
Hmmm, chromatic lives in Beaverton...
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Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~sc
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 02:48:43PM -0500, Bill Odom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
I didn't think we were actually *calling* them Lightning Talks, but
that does capture the spirit. Lots of topics, even more examples -- a
very high-density presentation.
Plus don
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 02:48:43PM -0500, Bill Odom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I didn't think we were actually *calling* them Lightning Talks, but
> that does capture the spirit. Lots of topics, even more examples -- a
> very high-density presentation.
Plus donuts and dancing girls.
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Andy
On Jul 20, 2005, at 2:07 PM, chromatic wrote:
All session, no tutorial. It's Wednesday afternoon. We're doing
Practical Testing Lightning Talks.
I didn't think we were actually *calling* them Lightning Talks, but
that does capture the spirit. Lots of topics, even more examples -- a
very hig
If I have somehow managed to imply I think we should junk the entire
entire current testing infrastructure and force every tester in the
world to move over to an image base testing system whether they want to
or not, then "no I didn't mean that".
But I figured that would be obvious...
Adam K
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 02:52:40PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:49:11PM +0100, Nicholas Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
> > Because Andy would be far too polite to push the book he and Richard Foley
> > wrote: http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=399
>
>
On Jul 20, 2005, at 2:07 PM, chromatic wrote:
All session, no tutorial. It's Wednesday afternoon. We're doing
Practical Testing Lightning Talks.
I didn't think we were actually *calling* them Lightning Talks, but
that does capture the spirit. Lots of topics, even more examples -- a
very hig
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 08:49:11PM +0100, Nicholas Clark ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> Because Andy would be far too polite to push the book he and Richard Foley
> wrote: http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=399
That's because I didn't write it. I'm more a uber-tech-editor and
helped
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 02:46:43PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:57:36AM -0700, Michael G Schwern ([EMAIL
> PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Am I imagining things or was there supposed to be a testing tutorial at
> > OSCON
> > with Andy Lester, chromatic and the gang? Or am I thin
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 11:57:36AM -0700, Michael G Schwern ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
wrote:
> Am I imagining things or was there supposed to be a testing tutorial at OSCON
> with Andy Lester, chromatic and the gang? Or am I thinking of YAPC?
No, it's not a tutorial. It's 90 minutes of random testing
On Thu, Jul 21, 2005 at 05:33:29AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
> If I have somehow managed to imply I think we should junk the entire
> entire current testing infrastructure and force every tester in the
> world to move over to an image base testing system whether they want to
> or not, then "no
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 11:57 -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> Am I imagining things or was there supposed to be a testing tutorial at OSCON
> with Andy Lester, chromatic and the gang? Or am I thinking of YAPC?
All session, no tutorial. It's Wednesday afternoon. We're doing
Practical Testing Li
Am I imagining things or was there supposed to be a testing tutorial at OSCON
with Andy Lester, chromatic and the gang? Or am I thinking of YAPC?
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Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pobox.com/~schwern
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> Also, it eliminates one of the valuable parts of CPAN testers: testing in the
> wild. If you create an artificially clean environment (the clean image),
> then install all the latest versions of dependent modules into it and then
> run the tests you
On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 05:21:19PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote:
> The image-based platforms would be able to implement a fresh
> from-the-base-install install of each module. This would also greatly
> help to focus attention on modules that many many others rely on as a
> dep that don't install ri
> (I deliberately
> did *not* list IO::Capture as a prerequisite in Makefile.PL because I
> didn't want to force users to install that module. I simply wanted them
> to use it during testing and then throw it away.
this is the start of the right attitude I think - when your testing
environment r
Michael G Schwern wrote:
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 10:49:12PM -0400, James E Keenan wrote:
The inference I drew was that the four false positives I received for
v0.35 came from automated testing in an environment where IO::Capture
was already installed, so that the test script did not need to fi
On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 09:37:39PM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2005 at 10:49:12PM -0400, James E Keenan wrote:
> > Am I correct in this inference and this judgment? Or is there something
> > about the automated testing that I don't understand?
>
> If I understand correctly
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