Re: Sub::Uplevel

2005-09-09 Thread Adrian Howard
On 9 Sep 2005, at 21:55, David Golden wrote: At least one of the culprits may be Test::Exception, for any version before 0.20. The problem is that CPANPLUS doesn't currently play well with Module::Build and doesn't respect the "build_requires" parameter, but only looks at the "requires"

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-09 Thread chromatic
On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 22:28 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: > For search results quite the opposite. I'd really like if if the default > way people got search results back for CPAN modules at least attempted > to order at some level based on citations. (ie number of pre-requisites) +1

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-09 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 10:37:01PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Or make is_prereq SO easy to game that it's a nonissue? Why should a > module depended upon by another author be ranked any higher than one > that isn't. For CPANTS I see no reason. For search results quite the opposite. I'd really

Re: Sub::Uplevel

2005-09-09 Thread David Golden
At least one of the culprits may be Test::Exception, for any version before 0.20. The problem is that CPANPLUS doesn't currently play well with Module::Build and doesn't respect the "build_requires" parameter, but only looks at the "requires" parameter. So you'll get unexpected failures for t

Sub::Uplevel

2005-09-09 Thread Ovid
Hi all, Guess what the following modules all have in common (aside from the fact that I wrote them)? AI::NeuralNet::Simple AI::Prolog Games::Maze::FirstPerson All of them have failed at one time or another because the target computer didn't have Sub::Uplevel installed. I'm going to have t

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-09 Thread Ovid
--- Adam Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ditch the CPANTs elements that a fail-by-default. By that I mean > has_test_pod_coverage, is_prereq and possibly also has_test_pod. The is_prereq is the only one that really annoys me. If folks start using module-starter, they'll likely pass the pod

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-09 Thread Nik Clayton
Chromatic wrote: Maybe the problem is that CPANTS as it exists now measures some metrics better measured on the developer side, not the installer side. It's handy to run the POD coverage tests as the developer of a module, but it's not that interesting for the person installing the module to run

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-09 Thread Robert
"Andy Lester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:07:02AM -0400, Christopher H. Laco ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Why would they stop uploading? How would they, the new uploaders, even > > know about CPANTS? It's not like uploaded files automat

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-09 Thread David Golden
Adam Kennedy wrote: Ditch the CPANTs elements that a fail-by-default. By that I mean has_test_pod_coverage, is_prereq and possibly also has_test_pod. Or make is_prereq SO easy to game that it's a nonissue? Why should a module depended upon by another author be ranked any higher than one that

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-09 Thread Adam Kennedy
David Cantrell wrote: Tels wrote: If I were to run CPANTS, I would drop that module like a hot potato at a summer campfire. Oh, and reduce everyone's K rating involved in the little prank by one :) I thought the whole point of CPANTS was to be useful to authors, not useful to the CPANTS

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-09 Thread David Cantrell
Tels wrote: If I were to run CPANTS, I would drop that module like a hot potato at a summer campfire. Oh, and reduce everyone's K rating involved in the little prank by one :) I thought the whole point of CPANTS was to be useful to authors, not useful to the CPANTS cabal. So if I want to

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-09 Thread Tels
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Moin, On Friday 09 September 2005 03:08, David Golden wrote: > It can't be by the same author, though, to count for is_prereq, right? > > So someone needs to create a new CPAN ID, and release a module under > that ID that prereqs all of CPAN. Then we'd all get