Re: Time for a Revolution

Adam Kennedy wrote: Unlike what others said, "core" perl shouldn't be the vehicle for this, most likely, given the more stringent support and backwards compatibility. We want to be able to change the composition of "PerlPlus" overtime, and once things go into core, they're pretty stuck. I sh

Re: CPANDB - was: Module::Dependency 1.84

A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Tels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-14 02:40]: announced to early - now everybody tells me how I have to implement it and why my way wont work You were saying Adam’s way is inferior to your way. I disagreed. That’s about the size of it. I agree my way is inferior, especia

Re: CPANDB - was: Module::Dependency 1.84

Plus, I planned to use YAML because it creates a _much_ less heavy overhead and dependency chain. Using SQLite or similiar is what really creates the problems with CPANTS - you cant just access the raw database without the front-end. Erm, I'm not sure I get you here. The main problem with all th

Re: Time for a Revolution

Unlike what others said, "core" perl shouldn't be the vehicle for this, most likely, given the more stringent support and backwards compatibility. We want to be able to change the composition of "PerlPlus" overtime, and once things go into core, they're pretty stuck. I should note for the rec

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

~ Pragmatics: TAP 2 must allow users to understand all relevant information. if there's language or a method of presentation or other WTDI that is understood by a wider audience, it must be used over one understood by a smaller audience. i hope this categorization makes sense, and you find it hel

Re: TAP diagnostic syntax proposal

To summarize. What TAP uses is irrelevant, as long as it works. What the Harness prints is relevant, but easy to fix any time. No worries about TAP 1.0 vs. TAP 1.1, just download the new Test:Harness from CPAN and everything will work. Right? Wrong. Well, maybe... Sometimes it could be ye

Re: Time for a Revolution

On Jul 14, 2006, at 8:03 PM, chromatic wrote: On Friday 14 July 2006 17:59, Andrew Savige wrote: I thought Chromatic might be the name of chromatic's father or older brother. No, that's Mixolydian and Ionian, respectively. -- c (Yes, of course my mother is Dorian. What were you thinking?)

Re: Time for a Revolution

On Friday 14 July 2006 17:59, Andrew Savige wrote: > I thought Chromatic might be the name of chromatic's father or older > brother. No, that's Mixolydian and Ionian, respectively. -- c (Yes, of course my mother is Dorian. What were you thinking?)

Re: Time for a Revolution

--- Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 08:36:54AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote: > > Who's Chromatic? > > And it wasn't even the start of a sentence. :-) > > [When doing the perl 6 summaries, Piers reconciled the forces of accuracy and > traditional grammar by ensuring by always rephras

Re: Time for a Revolution

On Sat, Jul 15, 2006 at 08:36:54AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote: > --- Clayton O'Neill wrote: > > I think a core difference between your list and Chromatic's is that > > yours would be part of the standard library in a lot of languages, > > whereas Chromatic seems to be aiming more for things that wo

Re: Time for a Revolution

--- Clayton O'Neill wrote: > I think a core difference between your list and Chromatic's is that > yours would be part of the standard library in a lot of languages, > whereas Chromatic seems to be aiming more for things that would be > part of the language. Who's Chromatic? /-\

Re: Time for a Revolution

On 7/14/06, H.Merijn Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Look at the list of modules I include in my perl distributions for HP-UX at http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/#Perl and you might get an idea of what I think are useful modules that my work more effective. Not quite like yours is it? I thin

Re: Time for a Revolution

On Friday 14 July 2006 12:27, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > A book like this is something that's been in the back of my mind for a > while. If there were real interest in this topic (and I think there > is), I would be happy to help out in a significant way, like writing > several chapters. > > If so

Re: Time for a Revolution

Or, perhaps we need the "Perl CPAN Cookbook" -- which would be like the Cookbook but focuses *only* on the greatest-hits modules across all the same categories. If CPAN is one of Perl's greatest strengths, shouldn't that get more attention, too? Er, right. Now let me don my editor hat.

Re: Time for a Revolution

On Friday 14 July 2006 08:18, David Golden wrote: > Or, perhaps we need the "Perl CPAN Cookbook" -- which would be like the > Cookbook but focuses *only* on the greatest-hits modules across all the > same categories.  If CPAN is one of Perl's greatest strengths, shouldn't > that get more attention

Re: CPANDB - was: Module::Dependency 1.84

* Tels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-14 02:40]: > announced to early - now everybody tells me how I have to > implement it and why my way wont work You were saying Adam’s way is inferior to your way. I disagreed. That’s about the size of it. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: Time for a Revolution

chromatic wrote: Why is there not a Bundle::PerlPlus (and yes, I've lathered up my yak with that name) that downloads and installs the modules that should have been in the box? For one, that should be "Task::PerlPlus". :-) Second, for any pre-packaged distribution like Strawberry Perl (see

Re: Time for a Revolution

On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 07:45:55 -0400, "Clayton O'Neill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why off-list? this is a good reaction. > On 7/14/06, H.Merijn Brand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Look at the list of modules I include in my perl distributions for HP-UX at > > http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/#P

Testing code that forks

Hi all, what is the current best practices for testing code that forks? I saw there was a recent discussion about patching Test::More to support forking. Is that going to happen or are there better ways to do it? Gabor

Re: Time for a Revolution

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 23:52:02 -0700, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 13 July 2006 23:37, H.Merijn Brand wrote: > > > If I got it right, the wish that was expressed is more like the wish for > > an installer with a GUI. > > Nope, just for a nice, easily-installable bundle of mod