Re: An alternate view on deferred plans

2008-03-31 Thread Aristotle Pagaltzis
* Michael G Schwern [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-31 08:00]: Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: What it protects you from is dying half-way through the tests without the harness noticing. Of course, that’s by far the most common failure mode. I don't want to drag out the plan vs no_plan argument, but I

Re: An alternate view on deferred plans

2008-03-31 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Michael G Schwern # on Sunday 30 March 2008 22:57: What it protects you from is dying half-way through the tests without the harness noticing... Death is noted by both Test::More and Test::Harness and has been for a long time The only way you can abort the test halfway through

Re: TAP has no exit code

2008-03-31 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Aristotle Pagaltzis # on Sunday 30 March 2008 23:14: Except that the test program might be running at the other end of an HTTP connection. Or at the other end of a serial port. Or the harness might be parsing an archived TAP stream. Or a TAP archive generated offline in batch mode. Or…

Re: TAP has no exit code

2008-03-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
Eric Wilhelm wrote: # from Aristotle Pagaltzis # on Sunday 30 March 2008 23:14: Except that the test program might be running at the other end of an HTTP connection. Or at the other end of a serial port. Or the harness might be parsing an archived TAP stream. Or a TAP archive generated offline

Re: An alternate view on deferred plans

2008-03-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
Eric Wilhelm wrote: What it protects you from is dying half-way through the tests without the harness noticing... Death is noted by both Test::More and Test::Harness and has been for a long time The only way you can abort the test halfway through using no_plan and get a success is with an

Re: TAP has no exit code

2008-03-31 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Michael G Schwern # on Sunday 30 March 2008 23:35: There is a TAP proposal to add meta information such as the exit codes. http://testanything.org/wiki/index.php/TAP_meta_information Yay. Can we put 'hostname' in there too? --Eric -- Left to themselves, things tend to go from bad to

Re: An alternate view on deferred plans

2008-03-31 Thread Ovid
Seems most of this has already been hashed out, but here are a couple of other comments. all my scripts ended with a simple print statement: ALL DONE. I ran the script, and if I saw my ALL DONE at the end, the script was fine. If I didn't, I obviously had a problem. Conceptually this is

Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread David Golden
I'll be getting into Oslo Friday mid-morning. Assuming no mishaps finding the hotel, I'll be up for touring around Oslo on Friday afternoon. If anyone from the hackathon has similar plans and is interested in meeting up, please email and let me know. (And if any locals want to play tour guide,

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 Mar 2008, at 14:34, David Golden wrote: I'll be getting into Oslo Friday mid-morning. Assuming no mishaps finding the hotel, I'll be up for touring around Oslo on Friday afternoon. If anyone from the hackathon has similar plans and is interested in meeting up, please email and let me

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Ovid
--- Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 Mar 2008, at 14:34, David Golden wrote: I'll be getting into Oslo Friday mid-morning. Assuming no mishaps finding the hotel, I'll be up for touring around Oslo on Friday afternoon. If anyone from the hackathon has similar plans and is

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting in on Thursday night - so I'll be around. Just planning to wander around taking pictures but could be persuaded by something more structured :) Wandering around taking pictures is cool, too. I've got a

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Ricardo SIGNES
* David Golden [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-31T10:07:57] On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Andy Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting in on Thursday night - so I'll be around. Just planning to wander around taking pictures but could be persuaded by something more structured :)

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 Mar 2008, at 15:29, Ricardo SIGNES wrote: Yup, I arrive at OSL, Friday morning at 9:30, along with Michael Peters. Assuming we can find the hotel, I (at least) am all for forming a touring company. Since I have NFI what the cell situation will be, shall we establish a time to try

Re: Friday afternoon^Wevening in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Salve J Nilsen
David Golden said: I'll be getting into Oslo Friday mid-morning. Assuming no mishaps finding the hotel, I'll be up for touring around Oslo on Friday afternoon. If anyone from the hackathon has similar plans and is interested in meeting up, please email and let me know. (And if any locals

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Ricardo SIGNES [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup, I arrive at OSL, Friday morning at 9:30, along with Michael Peters. Assuming we can find the hotel, I (at least) am all for forming a touring company. Since I have NFI what the cell situation will be, shall we

Re: Friday afternoon^Wevening in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 Mar 2008, at 15:48, Salve J Nilsen wrote: On a related note, we'll have a pre-hackathon pub meetup at The Shamrock at Grünerløkka from about 18-ish on friday. They have good pubgrub and drink, and aren't overly expensive. It's also within acceptable walking distance from the Anker

Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-03-31 Thread David Golden
For those attending the Oslo hackathon, please see the new schedule page: http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_:_Schedule As we start making plans (hacking or social), please add them to the page. You may also want to add the page to your watchlist and set your

Re: Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 Mar 2008, at 15:58, David Golden wrote: For those attending the Oslo hackathon, please see the new schedule page: http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_:_Schedule I've just added a map page:

Re: Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 Mar 2008, at 16:12, Andy Armstrong wrote: On 31 Mar 2008, at 15:58, David Golden wrote: For those attending the Oslo hackathon, please see the new schedule page: http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_:_Schedule I've just added a map page:

Re: Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-03-31 Thread Salve J Nilsen
Important info about the schedule: David Golden said: For those attending the Oslo hackathon, please see the new schedule page: http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_:_Schedule As we start making plans (hacking or social), please add them to the page. You may

Re: Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 Mar 2008, at 16:15, Salve J Nilsen wrote: I repeat: Only the people who meet up _physically_ at the venue get to decide the actual schedule. The authoritative schedule will hang on the wall at the venue, and will probably be updated as needed. Understood. Speaking of the venue -

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Michael Peters
David Golden wrote: I'm arriving 9:35 AM (Continental from Newark) That's actually the same flight that Ricardo and I are on. -- Michael Peters Plus Three, LP

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Michael Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Golden wrote: I'm arriving 9:35 AM (Continental from Newark) That's actually the same flight that Ricardo and I are on. That's handy. If you, Ricardo and I don't make it to the hotel, AndyA will only have to

Re: TAP has no exit code

2008-03-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
Eric Wilhelm wrote: # from Michael G Schwern # on Sunday 30 March 2008 23:35: There is a TAP proposal to add meta information such as the exit codes. http://testanything.org/wiki/index.php/TAP_meta_information Yay. Can we put 'hostname' in there too? You can put whatever you want in

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-03-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
David Golden wrote: I'll be getting into Oslo Friday mid-morning. Assuming no mishaps finding the hotel, I'll be up for touring around Oslo on Friday afternoon. If anyone from the hackathon has similar plans and is interested in meeting up, please email and let me know. (And if any locals

More topics for the hackathon

2008-03-31 Thread Michael G Schwern
Eric brining up TAP meta information made me think of some more hackathon topics. Finish and implement the TAP meta information proposals. Everybody wants them. http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_:_Topics#TAP_Meta_Information Revise the TAP specification, it's

Re: Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 31 Mar 2008, at 16:18, Andy Armstrong wrote: Understood. Speaking of the venue - could you add it to the map please? :) http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/Oslo_QA_Hackathon_2008_:_Locations Now with added Google Earth network link - because it was more fun that what I was

Re: Test::Harness wishlist: trap $SIG{INT}

2008-03-31 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 07:55:25AM -0400, David Golden wrote: For Oslo or whenever, I'd like to see Test::Harness trap $SIG{INT} when running test files. On Win32, CTRL-C at the console hits every process on it, so killing a hung process kills the harness, too. I'd prefer to see the harness

YA Hackathon Topic: Help Improve Parrot's Smoke Testing

2008-03-31 Thread James E Keenan
If by some chance you run out of things to hack on, you can help out the Parrot project by taking a look at our smoke testing system -- specifically, its reliance on, and hackish overriding of, two CPAN modules.