Re: Do we need subtests in TAP?

2011-10-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 2011.10.28 12:23 AM, Ovid wrote: Echo chamber alert: I've often seen long discussions on this list ignore the real world (though often for good reason). In this case, it sounds like there's a consideration of removing a feature from TAP. No, not removing from TAP but removing support for

Re: Do we need subtests in TAP?

2011-10-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 2011.10.28 6:52 AM, David Golden wrote: Without looking at the actual code, I would guess that the complexity is implementing subtests while preserving the legacy procedural interface that wraps calls to a global singleton. No, that's not really the problem. It was when Ovid originally

Re: Do we need subtests in TAP?

2011-10-29 Thread Adrian Howard
Hey, On 29 Oct 2011, at 09:18, Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com wrote: [snip] Do you find *blocks with their own name and plan* convenient, or subtests which have their own separate test state (as currently implemented) This may be me being dim - but I'm not really groking the distinction

Re: Do we need subtests in TAP?

2011-10-29 Thread Fergal Daly
On 29 October 2011 18:20, Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com wrote: On 2011.10.29 1:51 AM, Adrian Howard wrote: On 29 Oct 2011, at 09:18, Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com wrote: [snip] Do you find *blocks with their own name and plan* convenient, or subtests which have their own separate

Re: Fw: Do we need subtests in TAP?

2011-10-29 Thread Fergal Daly
On 30 October 2011 00:34, Ovid publiustemp-perl...@yahoo.com wrote: Should have been sent to the list, not just Fergal. Cheers, Ovid -- Live and work overseas - http://overseas-exile.blogspot.com/ Buy the book           - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog              -

Re: Event handling: One method per event or one method for all?

2011-10-29 Thread Ovid
- Original Message - From: chromatic chroma...@wgz.org To: perl-qa@perl.org Cc: Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com Sent: Thursday, 27 October 2011, 9:36 Subject: Re: Event handling: One method per event or one method for all? On Wednesday, October 26, 2011 at 09:58 PM, Michael G

Re: Do we need subtests in TAP?

2011-10-29 Thread Michael G Schwern
On 2011.10.29 3:51 AM, Fergal Daly wrote: It seems like it's impossible then to declare a global plan in advance if you use subtests unless you go counting all the sub tests which is no fun, Yes, that's a very good point. use Test::More tests = 3; subtest first = sub { ... };