App::ArchiveDevelCover 1.001

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Paul's recent work on the wonderful Devel::Cover reminded me that I had an improved version of App::ArchiveDevelCover lying around on my laptop since the Baltimore Perl Workshop. So I finally pushed the new version to CPAN. As I also never announced the initial version here, I'm doing it n

Re: Skip GTK tests if no display available?

2011-08-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 11:32:59AM +0200, Torsten Schoenfeld wrote: > On 25.08.2011 08:51, Thomas Klausner wrote: > You can use Gtk2::TestHelper to handle this automatically: > <https://metacpan.org/module/Gtk2::TestHelper>. Hm, this means I'd have to go back to cal

Skip GTK tests if no display available?

2011-08-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I recently uploaded a small dist to CPAN (App-TimeTracker-Gtk2TrayIcon) that uses Gtk2::TrayIcon to display my working status (powered by App::TimeTracker...) Now I'm getting FAIL reports like this: http://www.cpantesters.org/cpan/report/0c00fda4-cde2-11e0-bbec-9aeec8b7ec30 [ERROR] [Wed Au

Perl QA Hackathon: Last call to apply for sponsorship

2010-02-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! The phase for applications for sponsorship ends on Friday, 2010-02-12. We then shall deliberate over the weekend and announce the result afterwards so that travel arrangements can be made ASAP. If you're considering coming to Vienna, and want to apply for sponsored travel/hotel, add yourse

Perl QA Hackathon 2010 Venue & Vienna.pm Sponsorship

2010-01-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Attendees [4] page of the wiki [5]. Thomas Klausner, on behalf of Vienna.pm and the Perl QA Hackathon 2010 team 0: http://2010.qa-hackathon.org/ 1: http://www.metalab.at/ 2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalab 3: http://vienna.pm.org/ 4: http://2010.qa-hackathon.org/qa2010/wiki?node=Attendees 5

Re: standard for internal-only tests?

2009-08-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:51:57AM -0700, Jonathan Swartz wrote: > Is there a standard for signifying internal-only tests, and for make > test to figure out when they should run? "The Oslo Consensus" http://use.perl.org/~Alias/journal/36128 -- #!/usr/bin/perl

looking for CPANTS (co-) maintainers

2009-06-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! See over there: http://use.perl.org/~domm/journal/39189 -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/}

Re: Maintaining state between tests

2009-04-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 03:22:16PM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > For that reason I believe the idea is fundamentally flawed and a pain > in the ass. I agree - at least that it's a pain in the ass, but sometime you just have to deal with something that's a pain in the ass and I was loo

Maintaining state between tests

2009-04-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Is there any module on CPAN (or some other accepted technique) to maintain some kind of state between tests? I know that this will kill parallel testing, but I'm trying to test a rather long process involving several files and several steps, factored into several distinct test scripts, and

Re: build_requires, the xt and build_prereq_matches_use

2009-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:04:58AM -0500, David Golden wrote: > That's absurd. The Kwalitee analyzer shouldn't look in xt. Period. I agree partly (it can look, but should not add any dependencies), but I'm very unlikely to find some time to fix this in the next weeks (http://use.perl.or

Re: CPANTS not updating some modules?

2009-02-10 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:31:28AM +0100, Marc Lucksch wrote: > The update for some of my modules seems lost somehow > Dotiac: Still 0.5, but 0.8_1 is the latest > Dotiac-addon-html_template is missing completely. > > Is this an error on my part, or is there a bug somewhere? Very likely a bug

Re: Why make up a Makefile.PL (was: Re: git tarballs / tarfile comments)

2008-09-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:16:35PM -0400, David Golden wrote: > There are handful of things on CPAN that are just zipped .pm files. I cpants says: cpants=> select extension,count(*) from dist group by extension ; extension | count ---+--- tar.gz| 14762 tgz | 241

Re: Test::Harness Output Change

2008-08-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 02:36:11AM -0700, Ovid wrote: > unexpected consequences. It also highlights the issue of > Test::Harness's long-standing practice of stripping the .t extension > from filenames. Why? If we want other extensions, stripping them is > probably bad. Actually, I'd love

Re: Interrest for a QA-Tool hackathon after YAPC::EU

2008-07-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:29:10AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I am about to book my flight to Copenhagen but I have to decide when > to come back > so I was wondering what's going on with the Hackathon? I would assume that this is the authorative source if info: http://www.yapceurope2008.org

Re: About tidying up Kwalitee metrics

2008-06-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 01:54:19AM -0700, Ovid wrote: > On a side note, I still don't understand why I sometimes get dinged for > CPANTs errors. > > Here's one for HOP-Lexer (http://cpants.perl.org/dist/errors/HOP-Lexer): > > STDERR: Invalid row in Debian file: "libhtml-wikiconverter-mo

Re: About tidying up Kwalitee metrics

2008-06-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:10:07AM +0200, Salve J Nilsen wrote: > I propose to split the current "main" and "optional" kwalitee scales into > topical ones, so we can allow for richer set of metrics while allowing > everyone that care mostly about certain types of metric access to > "untain

Re: Proposed (optional) kwalitee metric; use re 'taint'

2008-06-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 03:57:26PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote: > * What's the procedure of getting this added to the CPANTS list > of kwalitee metrics? Either you wait until I have tuits (but to tell the truth there are some more issues to fix with CPANTS before I can add more

Re: cpants.perl.org giving 404 not founds

2008-06-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 09:56:19PM +1000, Paul Fenwick wrote: > Just wanted to report that: > > http://cpants.perl.org/ > > is presently giving me 404 (not found) errors. My DNS currently resolves The server was upgraded to the latest Debian (with Perl 5.10, yay), and I guess that ca

Re: CPANTS has_separate_license_file test

2008-06-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 03:55:38PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: > > Is CPANTS looking for something special inside the LICENSE file? > > The currently running version of CPANTS has that bug. > I think I have fixed that already in the SVN we just have to wait till Thomas > has some time to upgra

Re: Interrest for a QA-Tool hackathon after YAPC::EU

2008-05-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:49:05PM +0200, nadim khemir wrote: > In Oslo I proposed to organize a hackathon the week after YAPC::EU. Maybe you should add the hackathon to the YAPC::Europe 2008 wiki: http://www.yapceurope2008.org/ye2008/wiki -- #!/usr/bin/perl htt

Re: Interrest for a QA-Tool hackathon after YAPC::EU

2008-05-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:49:05PM +0200, nadim khemir wrote: > In Oslo I proposed to organize a hackathon the week after YAPC::EU. > .. > Rapid feedback please, Nadim. Sounds very nice. But I have to travel back on Saturday, so I think I won't be able to attend... :-( -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: Preparing a new Test::* module

2008-04-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 02:49:05PM +0100, Fergal Daly wrote: > On 09/04/2008, Gabor Szabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 10:14 PM, Fergal Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would say put as much as possible of this outside the Test:: > > > namespace and then wra

Re: Oslo Hackathon schedule page

2008-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:58:39AM -0400, David Golden wrote: > For those attending the Oslo hackathon, please see the new schedule page: Are there any plans on short talks introducing people to the various topics? I could prepare a short intro to CPANTS, and list my 'Testing Best Practices

Re: Friday afternoon in Oslo

2008-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:34:32AM -0400, David Golden wrote: > I'll be getting into Oslo Friday mid-morning. Assuming no mishaps > finding the hotel, I'll be up for touring around Oslo on Friday > afternoon. If anyone from the hackathon has similar plans and is > interested in meeting up, p

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:52:09AM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * Thomas Klausner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-02-19 09:25]: > > While I was away last week (snowboarding..) > > Do you ever do any actual work, Thomas? :-P Yes, I do! Here's proof: http://rev

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:23:38AM +0100, Thomas Klausner wrote: > While I was away last week (snowboarding..) CPANTS seems to have acquired > yet another bug. As soon as I have some free time (maybe tomorrow, but > at the latest this weekend during FOSDEM) I'll take a l

Re: CPANTS Site Seems... Confused

2008-02-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 02:34:15PM -0800, Randy J. Ray wrote: > information. Just a little while ago, I checked the CPANTS site and noticed > I had a crapload of red marks, almost all of which are wrong (one of the two > dists doesn't have LICENSE sections in pod, or a "LICENSE" file). But I'

Smoking private dists?

2008-02-05 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've recently started a new job (and a small company (which btw explains a certain CPANTS lagging on my part...)), and we want to smoke test our code. Are there any tools/frameworks available that would (in a perfect, lazy world) to the following: * fetch various projects from git (HEAD,

Re: New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-22 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 12:25:49PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: > I have just looked at the latest CPANTS results. I see that all my modules > fail this metric... but I am unsure as to why. Consider: > > http://cpants.perl.org/dist/prereq/Integer-Partition > > I agree, it's probably best t

New proposed CPANTS metric: prereq_matches_use

2007-11-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I'm currently thinking about a new CPANTS metric (and I even have a half-finished implementation..), and I'd like to get some feedback on it, before spending more time on it (or even releasing it..) The metric will be called prereq_matches_use and shall check if all the modules used in a d

Re: Bug fix in Test::More 0.71 may reveal failures tests

2007-09-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 01:49:42PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * Jonathan Rockway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-17 13:20]: > > Your method was much better than my "try installing stuff I > > need and see what fails" technique :) > > If anyone has a CPAN grepper script they could do an even be

Test::Pod / YAML explodes (and taking cpants with it...)

2007-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! You might wonder why cpants.perl.org is still down, even though I found some time to work on it. Here's why: Some dists (eg Number::Phone) currently cause segfaults in cpants [Meta: I changed a few things in how cpants processes CPAN. In a first pass, cpants writes a YAML file for each di

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:39:57PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 11 Sep 2007, at 20:37, Thomas Klausner wrote: > >On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > >>On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: > >>>looks like the cpants site ha

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 11:10:25PM +0200, Anonymous wrote: > also, would it make sense to have a test to check for warnings > when warnings are enabled globally? many modules do not enable > warnings, but when you use those modules and run the script > with -w, it's possible to get lots of w

Re: cpants not updating; new cpants test request

2007-09-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 01:43:43PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 10 Sep 2007, at 22:10, Anonymous wrote: > >looks like the cpants site has stopped updating for about 3 > >weeks now. > > Oops. That's my fault. cron job now re-enabled. Blush. No, that was my fault, as I turned it off. CPA

Re: Kwalitee and "other dists requiring" report

2007-06-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:31:34PM -0500, Ian Malpass wrote: > Would it be easy and/or interesting to add the kwalitee of the > distributions listed in the "other dists requiring X" section of the > CPANTS report? That should be fairly easy to do. I think I'll have some time this weekend/e

Re: Test::Kwalitee (was: CPANTS: suggestion for a new metric)

2007-06-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 03:23:14PM +0100, Andy Armstrong wrote: > Test::Kwalitee currently exposes the known test types as methods. I can > make it delve into Module::CPANTS::Analyse to find the tests that are > actually available - but then what to do about the methods? Sorry, not a lot of

Re: Test::Kwalitee

2007-05-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:43:57AM +0100, Nathan Haigh wrote: > The only bit I think needs to be hard-coded into Test::Kwalitee are the > indicators that rally have no reason to be tested when running the tests > on module files. I.e. those tests that need a tarball or the likes. The > indica

Re: trying to setup Module::CPANTS::Analyse

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 03:56:03PM +0100, Michael Stevens wrote: > I'm trying to use Module::CPANTS::Analyse, with the theory that will > let me test modules locally without waiting for them to go through > CPAN. > .. > Whenever I feed this a module to test, it prints 1 and 2 in the > logfi

YAPC::Europe Call for Hackathons

2007-04-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
.html We're also still looking for regular talks: http://vienna.yapceurope.org/ye2007/cfp.html Hope to see you in Vienna, Thomas Klausner on behalf of Vienna.pm -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another

New CPANTS metrics

2007-03-31 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Even though I was fighting mail servers today, I managed to put some time aside for long-needed CPANTS improvements. (And I really have to thank the Catalyst/DBIC-guys for their wonderfull tools which made me finish a big project on time (more on this later...)) So, the new CPANTS metrics are

Re: CPANTS spelling error, and incomplete coverage

2007-03-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 12:59:32PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > I just looked at the CPANTS thingy for one of my modules: > http://cpants.perl.org/dist/XML-DoubleEncodedEntities > > Apparently I should add a section to my documentation called "LICENSE". > There is already one called "CO

CPANTS up and running again

2007-03-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! CPANTS is now up and running again, with fresh data, which will be available daily. (There might be a problem with UTF8 and the database, but that should be solvable soon (especially as I know finally groked Unicode)). CPANTS now lives on a new server provided by hexten.net . Thanks!! You ca

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 10:01:09AM -0500, Christopher H. Laco wrote: > It's the CPANTS shuffle! Isn't this like, server/host 3 or so? :-) It is, which is my punishment for beeing to lazy to set up my own server :-) -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(r

Re: CPANTS?

2007-03-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 02:34:16PM +, Andy Armstrong wrote: > Does anyone apart from Thomas Klausner know anything about the status > of CPANTS? It's been down for about five days now. > > I'm trying to offer him free hosting for it but he doesn't seem to b

Re: Fixtures

2007-02-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 09:46:19AM +1100, Kirrily Robert wrote: > example used Test::Class's setup/teardown; would anyone else be able > to > provide confirm that I'm making sense in the following > Test::Harness/Test::More style example: I had to do something similar just yesterday. I wrote

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 06:58:11AM +0100, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > But yeah, other than that, I agree, the metric should check that > META.yml conforms to the spec it says it conforms to, and that > a metric that checks for conformance to the latest version should > be a bonus, if it exists at a

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 01:00:58PM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Oh so THAT'S where all those reports of "-e META.yml not found" were > coming from. Module::Starter is being naughty and putting META.yml > into the MANIFEST before it exists. Well, after fixing this by removing META.yml

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:47:36AM -0500, Michael G Schwern wrote: > meta-spec: > url: http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec-v1.2.html > version: 1.2 The 'problem' is that this field was introduced in 1.1, and it seems that quite a lot of dists use 1.0 of META-spec. My

Re: CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 03:35:41PM +0100, David Landgren wrote: > Aha, since I have your attention... :-) > I've been meaning to suggest the following changes, on the best and > worst reports pages: > > This distributions got the most Kwalitee: > --> These distributions have the most K

CPANTS and META.yml

2006-11-03 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I had some time recently and added some first META.yml checking to CPANTS (with the help of Gabor Szabo): metayml_is_parsable metayml_has_license metayml_conforms_spec metayml_has_license now indictes whether there's a computer readable license in META.yml, while (the also new metric) has_hu

Re: Bioperl

2006-10-24 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 03:13:08PM +0100, Nathan Haigh wrote: > I have just discovered the cpants and was wondering why only version > 1.2.3 of bioperl has made it in and not the latest version 1.4? > > Does anyone have any ideas about this? CPANTS currently seems to have some problems with

daily CPANTS data

2006-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I finally managed to set up a (working...) cronjob that analyses the new dists uploaded in the last 24 hours. You can expect new data each day around 02:45 EDT. -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.

Re: Getting Cruft off of CPANTS

2006-09-25 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:30:06PM -0600, Randy J. Ray wrote: > I asked this once before, but rather than getting an answer, someone just > "did it". There are some modules that I've deleted completely from CPAN; one > was because I renamed the top-level of the namespace (per conversation with

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 13, 2006 at 02:24:16PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > Oww, that includes all of mine, even though they state clearly in the > docs that they are distributed under the perl license. > > I assume this looks at the META.yml license key? I guess it's time to > take ExtUtils-MakeMa

Re: CPANTS quality brainstorming

2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:07:28PM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: > I posted all of my thoughts on the Perl-QA wiki here: > http://perl-qa.yi.org/index.php/CPANTS_Quality_Goals Cool! I added a few things, most notably the new has_license metric (thanks again to Gabor Szabo for implementing it)

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-12 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 11:15:50AM -0500, Chris Dolan wrote: Wow, excellent post! Some notes: > The next step in the exercise becomes how to implement those > measures. In the current CPANTS simple proxies are used for those > measures. Namely, we assume that if there is a t/*pod.t fi

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 10:23:39AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > >- has_example > > I thought we were generally negative on this one, because it would > encourage people to spuriously add trivial example directories to their > distributions... Yes, but I've recently introduced the concept

Re: post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:28:56PM -0400, Michael G Schwern wrote: > Thanks for the updates, Thomas. And now on with the complaining! :-) > >- has_example > > An optional metric that checks if the author included a dir called > > 'eg|ex|example(s?)' which in turn includes at least on *.pl

post-YAPC::Europe CPANTS news

2006-09-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! During YAPC::Europe in Birmingham I did a (rather short and un-hackish) hackathon. Slides are available here: http://domm.plix.at/talks/2006_birmingham_cpants/ During YAPC, I added a few new metrics: - manifest_matches_dist Check if the stuff listed in MANIFEST matches what's in the dist

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: CPANTS Hackathon at YAPC::Europe 2006]

2006-08-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! So I was stupid enough to offer an CPANTS hackathon at YAPC::Europe 2006... If you're interested, join us (or only me...) on 31st Aug from 14:00 to 17:30 in the Shadowcat Room. I've put a few infos up in the wiki: http://wiki.birmingham2006.com/WikiPlan/wiki.pl?CpantsHackathon -- #!/usr

Re: Dependency trees

2006-07-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 10:24:49PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > Is there anything out there that will generate a tree of > dependencies, probably based on META.yml? AFAIK there are several people working on stuff like that (Graph::Dependency, Module::Dependency, CPAN::Dependency, maybe more)

Re: Kwalitee metric: Community support channels

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Salve J Nilsen wrote: > Is there a (public) authoritative META.yml spec describing required, > recommended and supported fields? http://module-build.sourceforge.net/META-spec.html -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi

Re: some CPANTS news

2006-07-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:17:02AM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: > Please note the for the next few hours cpants.perl.org will show > slightly strange results, as a big reindexing is currently happending. It's finished by now. Here's a list of dists failing the new Module

some CPANTS news

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I've found some tuits to spend on CPANTS, so I changed the whole author rating thing (aka the CPANTS game). I've split the metrics into core metircs and optional ones. At the moment, the only optional metric is 'is_prereq'. I've also changed the kwalitee rating from absolut to relative (i.e.

Re: Kwalitee metric: Broken Installer

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:27:30PM +0200, Steffen Mueller wrote: > domm: What do you think? Is this a good metric? If so, would you like to > include the plugin in the distribution or do you want me to upload a > separate distribution? I've added your code to CPANTS (with some minor modif

Re: Kwalitee metric: Broken Installer

2006-07-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jul 18, 2006 at 12:27:30PM +0200, Steffen Mueller wrote: > we had a discussion about distributions with broken versions of > Module::Install. Using Module::CPANTS::Kwalitee::* as models I wrote a > simple plugin that calculates a Kwalitee metric "uses_broken_installer". Cool! May

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 11:35:14PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > What the hell is the "run" thing in the latest run... is the run just > half-way through or something? that was a bug in the templates. resolved now. (FYI: 'run' stores when the data was analysed (using what version of cpants

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-29 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe "BooK" Bruhat wrote: > Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait: > > > > And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS. > > Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq li

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-26 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:51:06PM +0200, Philippe "BooK" Bruhat wrote: > Le mardi 23 mai 2006 ? 21:56, Thomas Klausner ?crivait: > > > > And no, I won't take the fun out of CPANTS. > > Then why did you filter out the Acme modules from the prereq li

Re: CPANTS is not a game.

2006-05-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I missed most of this discussion due to work and a very important shopping trip to IKEA (well, maybe not that important, but I'll let you argue this out with my girlfriend...) I'm also a bit exhausted now, so here are just some semi-random comments on this thread: - I think the biggest probl

Re: W3C validator

2006-05-09 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 09:01:19PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: > I checked it again, one can download the source code of their service > from here http://validator.w3.org/source/ > and it is even packaged in some of the linux distros. > > (It is of course slightly outdated on Debian) > > Someo

Re: Proposed kwalitee metric: installer_not_executable

2006-03-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 06:12:37PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote: > I'd like to propose a Kwalitee test installed_not_executable be added > for which you get the Kwalitee point if and only if: > > 1) Both Makefile.PL and Build.PL (if they exist) are not executable > 2) Both Makefile.PL and Bui

Re: Test::Kwalitee 0.10

2006-02-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 08:02:27AM +0100, Andreas J. Koenig wrote: > I've just opened a ticket on RT about the issue. A new version is on it's way to CPAN. -- #!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.zsi.at for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/}

Re: Kwalitee in your dependencies (was CPAN Upload: etc etc)

2006-02-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 10:36:47AM -0800, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > OK, speaking of "Kwalitee", I saw cpants for the first time today. > And saw that it claims to update every sunday, but there hasn't been an > update since december 5th. On the one hand I'm having problems with the serve

Fwd: CPAN Upload: D/DO/DOMM/Module-CPANTS-Analyse-0.5.tar.gz

2006-01-26 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! I finally found some tuits to work on CPANTS again. As the previous implementation had some drawbacks, I started from scratch, and from another direction. I just uploaded Module::CPANTS::Analyse to CPAN. MCA contains most of the previous Kwalitee indicators and some code to check if one distr

Re: Proposed Kwalitee tests: has_license and/or has_meta_yml_license

2005-10-31 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:34:09AM -0600, Chris Dolan wrote: > To encourage authors to correct this oversight, I propose a new pair > of Kwalitee tests. Both would be nice, but if either of them were > implemented, I'd be thrilled. I'd prefer that someone else implement > the test (l

Re: Test::Kwalitee - Where is it hosted?

2005-10-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 04:15:45PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: > >>Dear List, > >> > >>In "Perl Testing - A Developers Notebook" it has a section on > >>Test::Kwalitee. > .. > Actually the book strongly suggests that it's a real module which runs > the Kwalitee checks on your code > .. > That

Re: Apologies for my last post.

2005-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 02:07:13PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > >>I have just re-read the summary of this list; > >> > >>"A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort > >>for CPAN modules." > >> > >>and realised this is the wrong list for my last post. > > > > > >

Re: Apologies for my last post.

2005-09-28 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 12:41:31PM +0100, Gavin Henry wrote: > I have just re-read the summary of this list; > > "A list for discussing and planning CPANTS, the quality assurance effort > for CPAN modules." > > and realised this is the wrong list for my last post. No it's not. The summary

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-23 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 12:54:42PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Collecting any sort of coverage data is a complete bitch. Let me just > say right now that doing it across _all_ of CPAN is flat out impossible. > > It's impossible. I completly agree. Now, if somebody sets up a system to col

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-21 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 11:58:36AM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > To me, this is a mark of Quality. It would be good to have it as a > Kwalitee metric, but I see no easy way. The simplest way I can see would > be to have a META.yml key that contains a URI to the HTML D::C report. I > would

Re: Plugging CPANTS

2005-09-20 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up > on qa.perl.org's front page? Took me a bit longer than planned, but renovating our new appartment sucks up a lot of time... Anyway, I rewrote some of the p

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 09:30:03PM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > Yeah, but I'm loathe to dedicate two separate test files merely to score > two points of Kwalitee. As it is, I'd just much rather bundle both tests > in a 00_basic.t file along with all the other standard no-brainer tests. I

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 12:24:26PM +0200, Tels wrote: > > The cpants analysis fails to recognise this as valid. What is it > > looking for and/or could it be taught to look for this? I thought that > > it was only looking for a string eval of "use Test::Pod". > > I would like to know the sam

Re: CPANTS new

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:48:02AM +0200, David Landgren wrote: > Seriously though, I have a module whose test suite includes Test::Pod > and Test::Pod::Coverage, except that I use the following construct: > > SKIP: { > skip( 'Test::Pod not installed on this system', 1 ) > unles

Re: Plugging CPANTS

2005-09-19 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:18:17PM -0500, Andy Lester wrote: > > For all the activity going on with CPANTS, we have nothing on > qa.perl.org that refers to it. > > Can someone please write up a paragraph and a link that I can put up > on qa.perl.org's front page? I'll wirte up something

CPANTS new

2005-09-18 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! Data using the new metric 'has_changelog' is now available from http://cpants.perl.org Thanks again to Adam Kennedy, H.Merijn Brand and Smylers for various suggestions/help with 'has_changelog'. I've also added suggestions to improve ones kwalitee. For each metric I wrote up a short 'remedy'

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-16 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:23:10AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Yeah, something like that. "Changes, for a suitably flexible value of > Changes" I implemented this in CPANTS. It will be in the next release (tomorrow), results should be available on Sunday morning. -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: kwalitee: drop Acme?

2005-09-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 05:53:17PM +0200, Tels wrote: > Shhh, dont tell anybody about my plan to hack the cpants webserver and > silently raising my K rating to "+inf" :) I've heard that. /me changes root passwd from 'toor' to '3l1+3' :-) -- #!/usr/bin/perl

Re: New kwalitee test, has_changes

2005-09-15 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:52:00AM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > Rather than do any additional exploding, I'd like to propose the > additional kwalitee test "has_changes". I've noticed that a percentage > (5-10%) of dists don't have a changes file, so it can be hard to know > whether it's wo

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 03:13:31PM +0300, G?bor Szab? wrote: > On 9/7/05, David Golden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > a) all tests are relevant > > b) all tests matter equally (are equally weighted) > > c) higher score means higher quality > > > > The scores are available in the database

Re: Why are we adding more kwalitee tests?

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:31:37AM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote: > flame wars. Best, at least for now, is to simply publish some > kwalitee metrics as an optional aid to enthusiastic CPAN authors. > If they prove good and useful, they will naturally become better known. Some of my recent thoug

Re: Adding more kwalitee tests

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 03:43:02PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > I know the whole kwalitee thing sort of stalled out at 17 tests, but > what would be involved in adding some more? There's obviously been > enough interest from people trying to boost their You might be aware that I did a talk

Re: Self-testing kwalitee

2005-07-11 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Jul 10, 2005 at 09:47:43AM -0700, chromatic wrote: > I have an unreleased module that runs the kwalitee tests and reports the > results. It works somewhat like Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage. > > I haven't tested it with the latest release of M::C::G; domm said there > might be s

Re: Why a scoreboard?

2005-04-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:29:40PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: I did most of what you asked for on thursday, but in a hurry, so it might be buggy.. > Where's the per-module page on CPANTS that lists these simple check/fail? http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/metrics/ http://cpants.dev.zsi.at/metrics/A

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-07 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 01:17:40PM +1000, Adam Kennedy wrote: > >Adding a kwalitee check for a test that runs Devel::Cover by default > >might on the surface appear to meet this goal, but I hope people > >recognize it as a bad idea. > > > >Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for PO

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-04 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:32:14AM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > Thomas Klausner wrote: > > >I cannot check POD coverage because Pod::Coverage executes the code. > > No it doesn't. Yes, it does. Pod::Coverage uses Devel::Symdump to get a list of all subs. > Th

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:59:04AM -0800, chromatic wrote: > Why, then, is suggesting that people ship tests for POD errors and > coverage a good idea? I'm not 100% sure if it's a good idea, but it's an idea. But then, if I write some test (eg to check pod coverage), why should I not ship

Re: Kwalitee and has_test_*

2005-04-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
Hi! On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 11:40:45AM +0100, Tony Bowden wrote: > There are now two kwalitee tests for 'has_test_pod' and > 'has_test_pod_coverage'. These check that there are test scripts for > POD correctness and POD coverage. Actually they check if Test::Pod and Test::Pod::Coverage are used

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